New Star Trek Theme............
Sunday, March 15, 2009 by Leo the Lion | Discussion: OS Customization
Saw this on TSF today...........For all you Trekkies out there..........Don't turn this into a Hyperdesk 'bashing' thread, please. We went through that little immature debacle a few months ago. Just admire the creativity and even if you don't use Hyperdesk just admire the art work, cool icons and there's a free media player remote too.
Theme http://hyperdesk.com/product_details.php?p=33
Audio Remote for WMP11 and iTunes http://skinsfactory.deviantart.com/art/STAR-TREK-SE-Audio-Remote-114030208
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Reply #143 Tuesday, March 17, 2009 2:06 PM
Thanks for the info, Jeff, it sounds like an interesting alternative and/or companion to my current customisation apps. When finances are a bit better I will look into HyperDesk... cos I'm open minded and it'd open the door to those themes I've been admiring from afar.
As for the nastiness and hostility being displayed here, what's the point? It serves no purpose other than giving the community a bad name. I don't need to mention any names - you know who you are - but some members behaviour in this thread is worse than anything Jeff is accused of here... so what makes you any better than what he is being condemned for?
The original idea of the thread was to call attention to the Star Trek theme, not to start a flame war, yet it devolved into just that. Time to grow up, don'tcha think!
Reply #144 Tuesday, March 17, 2009 2:23 PM
Turf rights. The manager of Burger King, doesn't go into the breakroom at McDonalds to defend/monitor a conversation the McD's employees (or customers) are having regarding the merits of a Whooper over the Big Mac, even if the person who started the conversation was a McD's employee/customer who stated at the beginning of the conversation to not trash Burger King.
I never claimed my behavoir was any better than Jeff's, but I don't go to a Hyperdesk forum and post about the glories of Windowblinds. I post the glories of Windowblinds here, at WINCustomize. I'm a loyal addict. I make no apologies for that. For what it's worth, even in my slightly manic state, there was a lot worse behavior I had an impulse to post, but held in check because it totally crossed the barrier of good taste. Considering my slight handicap, my behavior was stellar.
Reply #145 Tuesday, March 17, 2009 2:23 PM
Starkers: You wouldn't even know Hyperdesk is running if you unchecked the theme button. Once you close the app itself this is how much memory you use:
Thanks for the info, Jeff, it sounds like an interesting alternative and/or companion to my current customisation apps. When finances are a bit better I will look into HyperDesk... cos I'm open minded and it'd open the door to those themes I've been admiring from afar.
As for the nastiness and hostility being displayed here, what's the point? It serves no purpose other than giving the community a bad name. I don't need to mention any names - you know who you are - but some members behaviour in this thread is worse than anything Jeff is accused of here... so what makes you any better than what he is being condemned for?
The original idea of the thread was to call attention to the Star Trek theme, not to start a flame war, yet it devolved into just that. Time to grow up, don'tcha think!
Funny how we stray off the path sometimes 
Reply #146 Tuesday, March 17, 2009 3:03 PM
You are an old timer... 
Reply #147 Tuesday, March 17, 2009 3:08 PM
Straying off course is one thing... deliberately deviating from it to be unpleasant is another.
I don't suppose I'll be too popular with some folks around here, given my thoughts on the matter, but I'm seeing a double standard regarding the site flaming policy - what applies to members should apply to non-members, yourself included - and feel it should be spoken against because it's hypocrisy to include some but not others.
Besides, I can't see what they're reading between the lines [in what you said] so it's not my fault that I don't agree with the stance they've adopted.
Also, Karen, you were not in my thoughts when I wrote the above piece at post #143.
Reply #148 Tuesday, March 17, 2009 3:16 PM
Well I can tell you that's how its always been with me and the skinning community. To tell you how ridiculous its been over the years... I once posted a news post to WC about the seals being clubbed to death and it ended up being a huge flame thread. I was just trying to bring something i felt was terribly wrong and it ended up becoming this huge battle. Anyone remember that one?
Reply #149 Tuesday, March 17, 2009 3:50 PM
@starkers You were correct...it was stylexp.
I still have a problem with the thought I'm hacking my system with msstyles. One can call it a "patch", but "A rose by any other name..."
Reply #150 Tuesday, March 17, 2009 4:00 PM
Doc: Just to clarify things here. Given that the msstyles patch is fairly generic and therefore would not have a dedicated customer support area, I said that it may have been TGTSoft who failed your friend regarding customer support.... given that many of its customers, even before it closed its doors, were complaining about the lack of support, etc.
@starkers You were correct...it was stylexp.
I still have a problem with the thought I'm hacking my system with msstyles.
It's done in memory. No system files are touched. It's the reason why you can install 3 service packs in a row and it never breaks for XP or Vista. Since we launched 8 months ago the patch has not broken. So how is it not safe?
Let me reiterate. It has never broken. There are no bigger updates than Service Packs. It has never broken.
Reply #151 Tuesday, March 17, 2009 4:04 PM
Doc: Just to clarify things here. Given that the msstyles patch is fairly generic and therefore would not have a dedicated customer support area, I said that it may have been TGTSoft who failed your friend regarding customer support.... given that many of its customers, even before it closed its doors, were complaining about the lack of support, etc.
@starkers You were correct...it was stylexp.
I still have a problem with the thought I'm hacking my system with msstyles.
It's done in memory. No system files are touched. It's the reason why you can install 3 service packs in a row and it never breaks for XP or Vista. Since we launched 8 months ago the patch has not broken. So how is it not safe?
Everyone I've heard from called it "a hack" or "a patch (=hack)"...I'm the first to say "I don't know", and no one is explaining anything...so I'm left with my ignorance and as a consequence, fears and prejudices.
Reply #152 Tuesday, March 17, 2009 4:11 PM
A patch is a hack? So everytime Microsoft or Apple patches something on an OS, they're just delivering "hacks"?
Is it me or does that smiley face look like its on Meth?
Reply #153 Tuesday, March 17, 2009 4:15 PM
No,this one's on meth.
That one is on cocaine.
Reply #154 Tuesday, March 17, 2009 4:23 PM
@TSF-Jeff: Still no explanation. Since when does what I wrote rate an insult?
When Microsoft or Apple patches their OS's, that's one thing. msstyles doing it is something else.
Are you going to explain it or try to insult me?
Reply #155 Tuesday, March 17, 2009 4:33 PM
How am I insulting you? You know what forget it. I can't even make a comment without people taking it the wrong way.
Reply #156 Tuesday, March 17, 2009 4:34 PM
LOL, yes and they really are out to get me 
Reply #157 Tuesday, March 17, 2009 4:41 PM
Doc: Just to clarify things here. Given that the msstyles patch is fairly generic and therefore would not have a dedicated customer support area, I said that it may have been TGTSoft who failed your friend regarding customer support.... given that many of its customers, even before it closed its doors, were complaining about the lack of support, etc.
@starkers You were correct...it was stylexp.
I still have a problem with the thought I'm hacking my system with msstyles.
It's done in memory. No system files are touched. It's the reason why you can install 3 service packs in a row and it never breaks for XP or Vista. Since we launched 8 months ago the patch has not broken. So how is it not safe?
Let me reiterate. It has never broken. There are no bigger updates than Service Packs. It has never broken.
Doc: Just to clarify things here. Given that the msstyles patch is fairly generic and therefore would not have a dedicated customer support area, I said that it may have been TGTSoft who failed your friend regarding customer support.... given that many of its customers, even before it closed its doors, were complaining about the lack of support, etc.
@starkers You were correct...it was stylexp.
I still have a problem with the thought I'm hacking my system with msstyles.
It's done in memory. No system files are touched. It's the reason why you can install 3 service packs in a row and it never breaks for XP or Vista. Since we launched 8 months ago the patch has not broken. So how is it not safe?
Everyone I've heard from called it "a hack" or "a patch (=hack)"...I'm the first to say "I don't know", and no one is explaining anything...so I'm left with my ignorance and as a consequence, fears and prejudices.
Is it me or does that smiley face look like its on Meth?
So? To whom were you replying, and how was I supposed to take what you wrote? As a non sequitor?
Reply #158 Tuesday, March 17, 2009 4:44 PM
You're talking about the smiley face comment? You have it in bold. What in the world does that have to do with you? Did you create the site's emoticons? That's a real question by the way.
I was talking to everyone reading and you when i spoke about our patch.
There are definitely limitations when creating themes with msstyles. I don't think anyone will argue that point. But having the patch break? Is a non-issue. I speak from experience of using Hyperdesk for well over a year now on 6 different personal machines and doing countless reformats and SP upgrades. Nor has anyone come to us and said the patch broke. Even on Vista with the new theming engine there are limitations. I don't care and according to our sales neither do a lot of other people. So to each their own. But i wasn't insulting. I'm insulted that you thought that. Just kidding.
Reply #159 Tuesday, March 17, 2009 4:55 PM
I put it in bold print to emphasize what I found to be insulting.
Reply #160 Tuesday, March 17, 2009 5:03 PM
You found my comment about an emoticon that has nothing to do with you insulting? Right. It was an off-topic observation.
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Reply #141 Tuesday, March 17, 2009 11:56 AM
A must read for anyone who's been in the scene more than 5 years. The title says it all...
I'm proud of miriku-chan by Shoggot. http://customize.org/groups/topic/984