New Star Trek Theme............

Sunday, March 15, 2009 by Leo the Lion | Discussion: OS Customization

Saw this on TSF today...........For all you Trekkies out there..........Don't turn this into a Hyperdesk 'bashing' thread, please. We went through that little immature debacle a few months ago. Just admire the creativity and even if you don't use Hyperdesk just admire the art work, cool icons and there's a free media player remote too.

Theme  http://hyperdesk.com/product_details.php?p=33

Audio Remote for WMP11 and iTunes http://skinsfactory.deviantart.com/art/STAR-TREK-SE-Audio-Remote-114030208

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TSF-Jeff
Reply #121 Tuesday, March 17, 2009 1:43 AM

I would have to get "de-exiled" first. I'm not posting under this noob account

I'd have to talk to Brad about the split. i think they split it 50/50 which means i wouldn't do any 3rd party licensed themes since i have to give the 3rd party a cut. They would be priced the same anyway so whether you bought it here or at our place the price would still be the same and every theme comes with the software to use it so you don't need anything else - except yahoo! Widgets which is free. So it's not costing you any less as a master skin. I wouldn't just sell the theme without the rest.

ess-vid
Reply #122 Tuesday, March 17, 2009 1:44 AM

Heh well I was talking mainly on the forum side, the skinning side I remember quite a bit of those names.

 

I did four skins for the initial WMP7 project (I was originally contracted for two, but had to pinch hit for two other slots due to two others unable to meet deadline). They were Main Street, Club America, Executive, and HardLine. IIRC I was also contracted to code a couple others since the format was a little obtuse for non-programmers. I also remember a great deal of those initial skins were based on the underlying code by AznRomeo and myself.

 

The nightmare project, though, was the Doobie Brothers skin by Roman and myself. less than 48 hours to produce a pro-grade skin. With you "managing" (read as "having a full on panic attack") the thing.

ess-vid
Reply #123 Tuesday, March 17, 2009 1:53 AM


Designed for Microsoft for the launch of Windows Media Player 7



now that's old..., i at that moment i was like in a apocaliptic atitud....

 

More than you know. I laugh when someone points out a "older than you on WinCustomize!" forum post on IRC. I predate WinCustomize. Hell, I predate StarDock as a Windows ISV (at least publicly, I remember the talk of "that new company with the beta window skinning app"). I've been around long enough to remember when Skinz.org was themed like Slashdot.

starkers
Reply #124 Tuesday, March 17, 2009 4:32 AM

TSF-Jeff
I would have to get "de-exiled" first.

I didn't know about that, hopefully it can be resolved happily.

I'd have to talk to Brad about the split. i think they split it 50/50 which means i wouldn't do any 3rd party licensed themes since i have to give the 3rd party a cut. They would be priced the same anyway so whether you bought it here or at our place the price would still be the same and every theme comes with the software to use it so you don't need anything else - except yahoo! Widgets which is free. So it's not costing you any less as a master skin. I wouldn't just sell the theme without the rest.

There would obviously be details to sort out/refine, and that's not always clear cut or easy, but it seems that you haven't outright rejected the idea, and for that I'm pleased.  However, it's not about me or what I want, as my finances do not permit the purchase of master skins/themes at tis time, but about making TSF's quality skins available tto a wider audience, which would be a win win situation for TSF and its fans/customers.. whether those skins be HyperDesk, MyColors and/or WindowBlinds based.

Finances, however, aren't always going to be this tight, so yeah, I'd be in the market to purchase those TSF themes I like in the near future. Now while you say there is no reason why Hyperdesk and WB can't run together, that elements of HyperDesk can be unchecked, I don't know that I'd want to run 2 skinning engines at the same time (resource usage, etc), so it would be an either or situation for me, and I kind of like the bells and whistles that come with WB.  HG Eliminator also said that he would rather see an official TSF theme with all the trimmings than an unofficial port that's lacking, so I'm not alone there, and I'm sure there are others.

It is, of course, entirely your perogative to market your themes as you see fit, and I can understand your position, having adopted the Hyperdesk platform and wishing to remain with it, but at the same time, admirers of your work who purchased their Stardock based apps prior to this are now missing out on TSF themes they may otherwise purchase as WB/IP skins... hence the suggestion.

Anyhow, all the best with it and good luck.

mickeko
Reply #125 Tuesday, March 17, 2009 6:48 AM

TSF-Jeff
Here's a Windows Media Player 7 skin also done for me back in 1999 by Bronze. This is 10 years old and still looks better than 95% of the skins being produced today for WMP:

This is how you can tell a good artist. There is no alpha transparency but he did such a good job you can hardly see any jagged edges on the side pieces.

Using or not using alpha transparency has absolutely nothing to do with the end result of a skin. It's all about a thought through design and graphical talent. If an artist is talented in BOTH those areas, he/she WILL produce awesome skins, regardless of what features are available. More features open up more possibilities, it does NOT make a bad skinner any better...

You can tell a good artist by the work, not by the tools he/she use.

Nimbin
Reply #126 Tuesday, March 17, 2009 7:39 AM

I do not get upset if people want to use Windowblinds. I don't care. I get upset when people lie about the patch or at least our patch. It's safe and its stable.

 

i didn't say your patch was unsafe or unstable....show me where i said that.

i said i won't use a program that requires me to patch an operating system file. I also said that Hyperdesk looks like a great program. So get off that high horse

Jafo
Reply #127 Tuesday, March 17, 2009 7:54 AM

Dangeruss, Xcaponius, $teven, Bronze, Frogboy, DAK, Goran, Prodey, Misery,

Fli7e, Mercury, tierne, darknegative, cough, pixelphreak, iST, precurser,

doodle, firefly6, weezerfreak, webba, B0XXi, etype, lorenela, nug, kig,

fathom, aznromeo, morph, nu||, praxxis, kali, grymmjack, matrix, dmer, tin

omen, funk311, vindicator, bakerstreet, tananda, the list goes on

Geez....I remember all those.....

Fli7e discovered the way to skin the original Winamp....

Misery now goes by the handle Deaddreamer....

Dangeruss is probably still falling off Mountain bikes....

Deven [dmer] was a particular good mate.... [dunno what he's doing now, though]

Fathom was often good for an argument....as was/is Bakerstreet...

Everyone knows Frogboy.....[though I bet many didn't know he's also a skinner]

BoXXi is still around too....

and yes, Lorenela was/is quite a pretty picture....

DrJBHL
Reply #128 Tuesday, March 17, 2009 7:57 AM

Wow, hasn't this thread taken off since I was here last... and in some ways, not for the better.

Anyhow....

Karen, my original statement was that a friend had a customer service problem with the people who sold him msstyles. I have called him to verify, but he hasn't returned my call yet. starkers then commented that it was TGTsoft...however, I don't remember my friend saying that.


Doc: Just to clarify things here. Given that the msstyles patch is fairly generic and therefore would not have a dedicated customer support area, I said that it may have been TGTSoft who failed your friend regarding customer support.... given that many of its customers, even before it closed its doors, were complaining about the lack of support, etc.

I sit corrected, no biggy. I was just boiling it all down. No harm, no foul. When I get that info I'll pm you.

Snowman
Reply #129 Tuesday, March 17, 2009 8:17 AM


and yes, Lorenela was/is quite a pretty picture....

Indeed

I seem to recall most of those names mentioned, too

sydneysiders
Reply #130 Tuesday, March 17, 2009 8:21 AM
HG_Eliminator
Reply #131 Tuesday, March 17, 2009 8:28 AM

I seem to recall most of those names mentioned, too

 

As do quite a few of us

messiah1
Reply #132 Tuesday, March 17, 2009 8:32 AM

Would that interfere with WB? Would I have to configure WB so that it would not initiate at start up? How would it interact with Object Dock?

This is for an old (on this post) question but I didn't see it answered.  I installed Hyperdesk with WB, and then launched HD and it didn't interfere with WB at all.  Or OD.  It just skinned like it was supposed to.  Like they said it would.  I had no issues whatsoever with these three apps living with each other.

 

 

*It's sad that a thread with the word Hyperdesk anywhere in it has to turn into something like this everytime.

 

Jeff, your daughter is adorable.  You should have a couple more.

Destroy All Monsters
Reply #133 Tuesday, March 17, 2009 8:48 AM

OMG this is sweet! I'm a total STOS fan and this rocks my socks.

DrJBHL
Reply #134 Tuesday, March 17, 2009 9:01 AM

m1, thanks...I hesitated to remind/repeat the question...

Aren't kids great....best skins ever!

WOM
Reply #135 Tuesday, March 17, 2009 9:09 AM

 Hehe, yeah, I remember a lot of those old timers.

ShelbyGT_The_Car
Reply #136 Tuesday, March 17, 2009 9:17 AM

FLAMES !

Sounds a bit like my first 3 marriages! Old and for sure DEAD.

The here and NOW rules - not the past. Things you said about others and their opinions has me to see things wrong. That and everytime someone brings some of your stuff to the community it turns into a flame feast. So damn funny and enjoyable... I do not see it this way at all. Best from the past at this and those that live there with that in mind.

I THOUGHT THIS COMMUNITY HAS RULES TO NOT ALLOW SUCH.

Recently I've seen some new light on how this whole thing and/or place has changed and it is not what I expected it to be. I've been silent due to work I'm doing and less time. But I can change the way I do things for any good reason.

I feel you owe some of the members here at this community something for what has been said.

If you are so damn great you should be able to do this easily. Otherwise Jeff take those toys of yours and go home will you. I personally do NOT like you and have in the past not liked you.

Oh by the way that is not bashing - it is the truth and I know that hurts. Plus all of my postings here at this forum are syndicated to a lot of places for easy access. Your stupid comments concerning your product and the skins factory is so well made it looks good enough for prime time. Which could be seen on something like 60 min. - what a story it would be.

You should consider your actions in a public place. Or is this the way you run your company?

Don't answer to that one - personally I do not care how you run things at all. I've seen and heard enough of you and your so damn great past to present life style. It is sick as ever -  go sell it to some other. I'm not buying and never will at that for any reason till maybe you find a better way of doing your business.

GT

DrJBHL
Reply #137 Tuesday, March 17, 2009 9:30 AM

 Hehe, yeah, I remember a lot of those old timers.

 

"old timers".... Sorry to be Jafo-esque here, but isn't that spelled "Alzheimer's"?

 

mickeko
Reply #138 Tuesday, March 17, 2009 9:52 AM

DrJBHL

"old timers".... Sorry to be Jafo-esque here, but isn't that spelled "Alzheimer's"?

Either that or they may refer to a chronograph out of warranty... 

DrJBHL
Reply #139 Tuesday, March 17, 2009 10:07 AM

mickeko
Quoting DrJBHL, reply 12
"old timers".... Sorry to be Jafo-esque here, but isn't that spelled "Alzheimer's"?


Either that or they may refer to a chronograph out of warranty... 

 Thanx mick.

TSF-Jeff
Reply #140 Tuesday, March 17, 2009 11:43 AM

Nimbin: I wasn't even referring to you when i said that. Paranoid much?

 

Messiah: One's enough thanks.

 

About Fathom: Last time i heard about him he was managing a kinkos. He stayed with me for a weekend when he came down for a drum and bass show.

 

About Hyperdesk and threads: We could always just skip new topics and everytime someone posts a new forum topic we just launch into a rendition of the "good old days".

 

About what makes a good artist: Gee Mick.... thanks for clearing that up. And you missed my point completely.

 

Starkers: You wouldn't even know Hyperdesk is running if you unchecked the theme button. Once you close the app itself this is how much memory you use:

Mem Usage: 2,332 K

There are some free ones you can check out.

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