What am I doing Wrong!!
I don't get it
Monday, March 2, 2009 by scruf57 | Discussion: Community
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Reply #42 Tuesday, March 3, 2009 3:08 PM
If not you (and the rest of the community) then who? The moderators alone?
Reply #43 Tuesday, March 3, 2009 3:17 PM
If not you (and the rest of the community) then who? The moderators alone?
Moderates, journeymen and masters whose work no longer needs to go through a moderation because at that level they are trusted to moderate themselves -- yeah, people who would know, people with the ranks and the power. Otherwise it's just the blind leading the blind.
Reply #44 Tuesday, March 3, 2009 3:57 PM
Moderators spend most of their time enfocing the rules of the site. No copyright abuse, etc. Then they take spend time trying to keep the main gallery something that we can all (as a whole [or maybe an average]) take pride in; then give it an *initial* rating (that changes as other people rate).
Reply #45 Tuesday, March 3, 2009 4:08 PM
Well, we could elect a suitable victim Judge and rotate through the ranks on a monthly basis.
That person would give a TU or TD (Thumbs Up or Thumbs Down) for each submission, and also send emails why 'down'. This would be a non paying job. Thankless as well.
I don't think taste or knowledge should be allowed to get in the way: That'd only cause problems, since that's the way things are done today.
I'd probably be the first since my knowledge of skinning is zero...actually i (square root of -1). My taste is notably worse: I like Aero.
[pause to allow people with taste to pick themselves/eachother off the floor]
You might conclude from this that I favor the current system. You'd also be correct.
Reply #46 Tuesday, March 3, 2009 4:25 PM
I kinda like the current system as well, even though it isn't perfect.
Even though I look forward to making Journeyman, I will miss that awesome feeling you get when a mod gives your skin a near perfect score. 
Reply #47 Tuesday, March 3, 2009 4:39 PM
If you have an opinion then of course you are qualified.
Art is a very personal choice. What one person likes, another hates.
Trust me, I understand your frustration.
For me....I hate to see any type of text written on a wallpaper. It just ruins it for me. If someone makes a beautiful wallpaper that I like, I will tell them my ' opinion'
It doesn't make my opinion right or wrong but maybe it might invoke a thought on that persons next wallpaper " Maybe I'll include a non-text version "
As for asking Jafo's opinion... I have had the pleasure of many long , long emails from Jafo and he is far more helpful and will try to give his opinion is a nice way.
Reply #48 Tuesday, March 3, 2009 4:39 PM
I got into trouble for saying the mods weren't professional art critics, and it wasn't meant to be offensive.. I can't win at this site, I really try hard here.. I really do, and just when I feel I'm out from under.. I get pushed back down.
Sorry, I am a member, and a human being, and these are my feelings.
Moving along.
Reply #49 Tuesday, March 3, 2009 4:43 PM
Always remember, its only a website...
Reply #50 Tuesday, March 3, 2009 5:22 PM
Good lord....I was nice? ....
More often than not, skin moderation and site administration ARE thankless tasks. [or the thanks often seem few and far between] ... but the overall intent is to ensure the site appeals to the majority [its community] through the maintenance of agreed standards of behaviour/site content/etc.
Every now and then things go wobbly off the rails...but mostly it's all smooth sailing [sorry - mixed metaphores there].
k10w3 ...yes, if you wish I can explain why something may 'suck'...and thus how to improve the breed and improve acceptance rates. Submissions are NOT rejected for a reason such as "it's Tuesday...anything with a 'G' in the name gets the chop..." ...
Reply #51 Tuesday, March 3, 2009 5:28 PM
Belittling people who are innocent, and making them feel more of a failure than they already are, isn't nice either..
Yesterday I felt good for the first time since... the LAST time I was belittled
.. not anymore.
LOL All I did, was encourage scruf..
Tailsgirl thinks it's Toohey's time!
Reply #52 Wednesday, March 4, 2009 4:12 AM
You have had your moments....
Reply #53 Wednesday, March 4, 2009 4:19 AM
No its not nice at all....some like to try and offer help in a constructive way, others are a bit more blunt.
But to make fun of someones work is never helpful....especially for a new skinner trying to learn.
Belittling a person is not supposed to be allowed anyway...
Reply #55 Wednesday, March 4, 2009 8:09 PM
Which is something that would need to be brought up in private, and please do not elude to accusations like this without backing them up.
Reply #56 Wednesday, March 4, 2009 8:17 PM
Which is something that would need to be brought up in private, and please do not elude to accusations like this without backing them up.
Well....since she can't do that anymore, what exactly is the proper way for her to have gone about that? Her accusations had some proof, but the items of evidence were private -- just for future reference, what are the official procedures for dealing with these things...for when a member feels they are being treated unfairly by a moderator? And are there any guarantees that the member will be treated unbiasedly by higher authorities?
Reply #57 Wednesday, March 4, 2009 8:21 PM
Quoting Island Dog, reply 5
Which is something that would need to be brought up in private, and please do not elude to accusations like this without backing them up.
Well....since she can't do that anymore, what exactly is the proper way for her to have gone about that? Her accusations had some proof, but the items of evidence were private -- just for future reference, what are the official procedures for dealing with these things...for when a member feels they are being treated unfairly by a moderator? And are there any guarantees that the member will be treated unbiasedly by higher authorities?
k10w3:
I'm not going to discuss a specific issue, because nobody here except the parties involved have access to the complete "story", and the actions behind it.
Reply #58 Wednesday, March 4, 2009 8:27 PM
If a member is having an issue with another member they shoudl escalate vial PM or email to a moderator.
If they are having a problem with the moderators they should email [email protected].
Reply #59 Wednesday, March 4, 2009 8:47 PM
*snicker* Seriously? There IS such an e-mail addy? (or is that one of those things like the bumper stickers that say "If you don't like my driving, dial 1800 EAT...")
Reply #60 Wednesday, March 4, 2009 8:54 PM
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Reply #41 Tuesday, March 3, 2009 2:45 PM
Interestingly . . (at least in this post) . . not many(two to be precise) have stepped up to do that for the original poster.
I can't speak for all who have posted to this thread, but I personally don't feel qualified at this point to give an opinion on anyone's work.