I wasn't

Anyway scruf, as someone recently told me, don't let WC be the judge of your self-worth, keep on creating buddy!

shooooo! people shoooooo! you are hijacking scruf57's thread!.. 

give scruf some good pointers instead of the old "skin for your self"...

Its social psychology you want people to like what you do, you get a emotional reward if your work become's popular.

Read up about Maslow's

I will be honest here i skin maybe 70/30, 70% for myself because i like pushing pixels and 30% i skin for all you out there
for you to enjoy (if you do ) my hours of work on a wb, both things give me a "reward".

As I have said before:

With Journeymen as well as Master skinners, by the time they are promoted to those positions they have shown they know what WC mods look for in skin's quality, asthetics, as well as have shown the maturity not to abuse the "free pass" given thru moderation

IMO it is fair, they have  shown the maturity to grow/learn from rejections and utilize the knowledge gained from them, to master their craft. They too once started at the bottom of the chain, but thru hard work and learning from their mistakes,etc,

Yes they automaticaly get I believe a "5" rating which is like 2.5 or 3 stars, but they also loose out on getting passed thru moderation with 5 stars for awesome skins. Most journeyman and masters skins Merit typically more than 3 stars, as usually thier works are top notch, so if any thing they are getting the short end of the stick.

Also they are generally at the public's mercy for ratings, unless we happen to see the skin in the library and rate it. Also by being not moderated, they can miss out on being featured etc, as since they dont get seen by us directly.

Every thing has its plusses and minuses. Some times the other side of the coin isn't so shiny when more closely examined.

On a side note I have been one of the Skinning community since 1997, and only last year became A WC mod. I feel no different Today as I did before recieveing the promotion.  Them as it has been put, Came from the community, and are trying their best to give back to it..  But hey screw me right?

People who have their works bypass moderation are quite specifically disadvantaged.

The 'auto-six' that is applied is a site specific system to enable the work to be seen by others...if it received no rating at all...[because it was not seen by a moderator to be rated]...it would thus be 'zero' and physically invisible to the public.

This auto-applied rating actually is DELETED automatically as soon as the first public rating is added.

Moderated [and approved] uploads receive a legitimate and permanently applied rating even before it goes public and thus receive/attract further ratings.

A by-product of this system is that those whom some may consider as 'favourites' because of their promotional status will upload works which are usually unlikely to even be seen/rated by a moderator at all.

Well said Karen, and we are all just people, Moderators are just people, they aren't professional Art Critics, remember that the next time you feel put down, that's what I keep telling myself.. 'Oh well Tailsgirl, look at the bright side, a bunch of people liked what you did.. as opposed to the handful of Mods who didn't!'

I don't see the role of the Wincustomize.com site Moderators as that of a teacher, primary school or otherwise.

That being said, however...and as mentioned several times already, if constructive feedback is requested it can be given.

It won't be discussed publicly as generally too many people tend to use such instances to score points against other members of the site, something which is actually against site policy/conduct.

Your right Jafo.  I'm just paranoid and talking out my backside.  

(might have something to do with the fact that I asked three times for more critique on my last WB, twice in the first thread - https://forums.wincustomize.com/336024/page/2/#replies and second in a thread all by itself, https://forums.wincustomize.com/339439
  and had only one response, and so I was a little shocked when it sat in moderation for six days and then showed up with a mere 1.5 stars, which is what my very first WB got which was a total piece of crap, and I had no clue what I was doing.)


Nevermind me.  I just like to bitch.

Look.... From what I remember, due to limited server Space The staff has to Pick what they feel is the best of the best and reject the rest. No harm no foul. It is not about what we like or dont like as much as it is about picking from the offerings what we feel are the best wallpapers for desktops. 

If you are offered a Piccaso and a Van Gogh and have to choose only one does that mean you hate the other? or are you simply picking the one you like best? Tho Personally I would reject both as IMO they would not make good desktop wallpaper.

I did not become a Mod to become "above the Community" I became one to Become even more involved and give back to the community that has offered me so much.  Tho it seems we are being looked upon as enemies or Non members of the Skinning community by some, for Volintering our free time and patience.

HG_Eliminator is sad to think his time and effort to give back to the community, has been a waste of time...

HG don't be sad, I value you, you've been nothing but sweet to me, you're one of my favourite people.

k10w3 ...as mentioned several times...if you have a query re delays....ratings...or whether a skin 'lacks' something...send a request via PM to a Mod, or myself....it will be responded to.

Subtle warning, though....if something really does suck....I'll likely tell you honestly....

Do you have a standard "that really sucks" email template, or do you compose an new one for each case? 

Sort of...yes to both.

There is a list of 'standard' responses that can be used to suit particular instances of rejection....eg the screenshot that has insufficient obscuring of the wall image, etc. .... but many instances require specific explanation in detail...and are thus quite time consuming...

             Game Over!

Retry?  

            )))Yes   )))No

WinCustomize has done more to support the community than any other "skinning" site I can think of.  Now to get to the point at hand, WinCustomize is a moderated site, it has been that way for as long as I can remember.  The interesting part is that people prefer it that way.  Most recent example is the WC member survey we did which the overwhelming number of people want the site to stay moderated. 

I'm sorry.  But how does moderation prevent a member from not getting feedback?  Anything a member sets to go to their personal page is accepted almost by default (no rips, porn, etc.)

A member has the choice to post here or there or where-ever they want.  And the community has the choice to comment and help an artist grow or criticize or remain quiet.

Interestingly . .  (at least in this post) . . not many(two to be precise) have stepped up to do that for the original poster.

In order to improve, first, you have to be honest with yourself. Only then can your journey begin

“We are so vain that we even care for the opinion of those we don't care for.”

                                 -  Marie Von Ebner-Eschenbach