Is your world safe from terrorism....
Sunday, December 21, 2008 by superman | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
Dear friends
The title depicts what I mean to say.... Are you protected from the ever growing threat of terrorism...
No, It hasn't caused a fear in me. Its an evil and everything evil are destined to be detroyed...
Well, my answer to my question is perhaps no..
With more than 50 blasts this year, 2008 has been the worst for India.... the govt has just awaken after the Mumbai blasts..lets see what happens....
The simple reason that Pak is so close and people there are so poor and ignorant and religiously blind that they cant see the real motive of those who infuse zihad in them..
And what about your vicinity.. Is it free?
Can you guess what were the reasons for blasts in India...
To slow down its economic progress.....to implant a feeling of insecurity among foreign investors and MNCs that India is not safe..
But trust me each of us will become a troop...and save our country and visitors.....
What are their income sources....
Most probably ..drugs.. and donations from Arab nations..
Well Now its ur turn to say.......
Reply #22 Sunday, December 21, 2008 11:44 AM
Who says you get killed? How about blided, or scarred/maimed. maybe paralyzed. It isn't necessarily boom and you're dead.
How about The Patriot Act? Isn't that, in essence exactly the surrender you are writing about? Terrorism could NEVER have caused the collapse of our Republic. The "defense", though...seems to have effected that which the Terrorists never could have.
Reply #23 Sunday, December 21, 2008 11:56 AM
No one is safe from terrorism and domestic is always the worse because you live with it in day to day life. Of course wives are to be feared, I find keeping a low profile, doing what I’m told and just generally knowing my place on the food chain is a great way to survive.
In-laws are to be feared! In-laws during the holidays can not be avoided and this is what most scares me and should scare you. Any other time of the year you can fake car trouble or any number of other excuses but not during the holidays. During the holidays you’re family to people that may very well be aliens and if you’re unlucky enough to have been born male you had better act as though you’re having the time of your life and just can’t wait for the next holiday.
Reply #24 Sunday, December 21, 2008 11:57 AM
Who says you get killed? How about blided, or scarred/maimed. maybe paralyzed.
A new hurdle to overcome. It's what life is about. (I live the life of Rosanna Rosanna Danna -- "it's always something.")
Yes, it is, and I think you know I'm not cool with the Patriot Act, but I've lived too much of my life not being part of majority to figure I can fix that hurdle on my own. I'm hopeful, since Barach Obama won the election, and he claimed he will repeal the Patriot Act. I will remain vigilent on contacting my senators and congressmen and letting them know my opinion on this matter (along with all the other opinions I have on government issues), but I know that's going to be a long and hard battle, even with the winning candidate on my side. Wrestling power from tyrants once they already have it, is never as easy as giving it to them in the first place.
Reply #25 Sunday, December 21, 2008 12:03 PM
I think the only terrorism we really need to fear is the fear that this is going to generate. I think America will destroy itself from within a lot sooner than anyone does. I think people have become to complacent with way things are or they lost hope of making change. The rest are just too damn blind to see what is really happening and go on as if it really is going to get better or nothing has gone bad in the first place. Sad to say but we lost a lot and I think that for all we gained we lost more.
The dying part or even getting hurt is not the objective of terrorism, the true objective is fear. It already has worked. We now are afraid to trust certain people for the way they dress or from where they come. We have even made laws they go against the Constitution because we are afraid. The Bill of Rights is in danger because we fear. We take God out of the picture because we fear. We fail to stand up for our rights because we fear. We are afraid of packages left in peculiar places
And this is only the beginning... imagine a lifetime of this... and see where it takes us.
Reply #26 Sunday, December 21, 2008 12:20 PM
First of all let me say that Mumbai blasts can never be though good and no civilized person, who has a belief in humanity, can do such shameful act. Life of every innocent human, regardless of his/her believes, color, ethnic background, is precious.
And let me say that if some gets hurt or feels bad with my opinion... I am really really sorry!
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Coming to topic, I can clearly say that roots this massacre are in fact within India! Look at a definition of Terrorism:
terrorism, act of terrorism, terrorist act (the calculated use of violence (or the threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in nature; this is done through intimidation or coercion or instilling fear) (source: http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=terrorism)
Means every act which threatens the common rights of a human is terrorism! Terrorism actually emerges from the lust of power, hunger and unlawful act of government!
Look at the condition of India, a country where almost 21.6% people are living under the line of poverty (India is currently housing 13% of global poor) Moreover, India also has 228 million people, or 20.6% of the population living below $2 a day. A country where cast system is so strong that the "shooders (slaves, unholy)" are not considered to be a human. A country where every 3rd member of Legislative assembly has a criminal background and a country where almost 12 independence movements are going on!
Even if you are not convinced with this, can someone tell me what actually 700,000 Indian army is actually doing Kashmir?
Reply #27 Sunday, December 21, 2008 12:23 PM
1. One should be aware of things that don't seem right
2. People acting suspiciously or bizarrely should be noticed.
OMG! Docs a terrorists! Run fer yer lives! ![]()
Reply #28 Sunday, December 21, 2008 12:24 PM
I think the people who are afraid to trust certain people for the way they dress or where they come from have ALWAYS been afraid of the people who dress differently or come from some place else--they were just looking for an excuse to validate their fear.
I'm speaking purely for myself here, it's kind of hard to take something that doesn't exist out of the picture. I didn't actually DO anything to take God out of my picture (okay...maybe asking all those philosophical/spiritual questions that led to the conclusion "God" is illogical was an action, but it's not like I could help that; it's my nature), "God" pretty much just vanished from the picture the same way Santa Claus, and the monsters under my bed did.
Reply #29 Sunday, December 21, 2008 12:47 PM
Terrorism can happen to anyone anywhere. It doesn't discriminate. Whether for political agendas or for perverted religious beliefs. There are and have always been people who can justify to themselves the taking of innocent lives because they are too impotent to work for their cause in a civilized manner. True believers of any faith, political party or race who carry their beliefs to the point of fanaticism are a cancer and should be found and isolated from the balance of society.
Reply #30 Sunday, December 21, 2008 1:01 PM
Whether to have faith or not is not the issue. What I am talking about is those that do have faith are afraid to be who they are because out of fear of offending people who don't. Yes we, meaning people in general considering that 75% do have faith and the word "we" is used in the context that it was used, are taking God out of school out of government because they are afraid. FEAR!
And my statement was nowhere near directed to you. (i.e.: I'm speaking purely for myself here, it's kind of hard to take something that doesn't exist out of the picture.) Only if you had faith would this be at you.
This is an exaggeration... yes there are those who are bigoted but there are others that are in fear because we have told them to be afraid or becuase of a natural human responce, which is based on logic, to fear the people who look like or comefrom the same region that those who come to harm us do. For one that uses logic to discern whether God exist should also be inclined to use logic in most if not all aspects of thier lives, not just the ones that make them feel comfortable.
Also logicalness is the most narrow-minded, uncreative way of thinking which is a trait of us conservatives. Which in turn is illogical for liberals to be.
Reply #31 Sunday, December 21, 2008 1:20 PM
where do you draw the line?
Reply #32 Sunday, December 21, 2008 1:59 PM
What I am talking about is those that do have faith are afraid to be who they are because out of fear of offending people who don't.
That door swings both ways. This study shows the faithless are far more feared than the faithful. http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=1786422&page=1
This is an exaggeration.
Everything is an exaggeration, because everything is relative. We all measure our reality by our own experience, and it is NOT logic to fear a person based on clothing or religious preference--it's NATURAL to fear based on those things, if the subject has been told clothing and religious preference are to be feared, but it is not LOGICAL. LOGIC means to take the thing at it's base value without emotion and judge it based on its own merits.
That doesn't even make any sense. I think we must have different definitions of the term logical.
Reply #33 Sunday, December 21, 2008 2:36 PM
I am just thankful that I was lucky enough to be born in Canada. Even though someday acts of terrorism could find targets here, right now and for the near future, I feel safe.
Reply #34 Sunday, December 21, 2008 5:09 PM
1. One should be aware of things that don't seem right
2. People acting suspiciously or bizarrely should be noticed.
OMG! Docs a terrorists! Run fer yer lives!
See? Someone learned something. Personally, I'm looking forward to WG producing skins for the new app we're developing. ![]()
For me it's the folks in the red hats...."Al-Linux" I think they're called.
Fanaticism = The redoubling of efforts after the goal has been forgotten.
Hi, cous! ![]()
Don't let Fuzzy hear that!
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Reply #35 Sunday, December 21, 2008 5:40 PM
When I take over the world, Canadians will be on the protected species list. Zubaz will not.
Reply #38 Sunday, December 21, 2008 6:00 PM
People have always used religion to repress others. It is not religions fault people pervert the teachings of any religion to fit their agenda. In every facet and walk of life there will be those mentally imbalanced folks who feel the need to Impress their beliefs/opinions on others, Religion is just their choice of scapegoat. With any thing People can get obsessive and go overboard with Pushing their ideals,morality,religion,etc...
Look at sport's,music, or any other world wide renowned event. Violence within concerts,football games,soccer games, etc are on the rise. Why? Hatred and intolerance will always be prevalent among these "mentally unbalanced folks" who need to push their superiority off on others, and as religion becomes less of a reason in an "enlightened society" to kill others off, new events which foster some sort of reason to harm others will take over as the scapegoat of choice.
The Dregs of society which feed off repressing others will always find an excuse to do so. Evil people using religion to cause mass havoc and death is not the religion doing it nor it's teachings, but is merely some loon who has chosen it as his BS excuse to hurt others.. I was taught religion was about love, kindness toward our fellow man, and forgiveness toward others. Never was it told to execute those who choose not to believe. Blame those who choose to commit crime in the name of religion, not the religion it's self.
I will defend my right to believe in religion to my dieing breath, and I will Defend your right to not believe in one as well. True freedom Is about choices without oppressors telling you what to believe. We do not need to remove or abolish religion to stop the wars and violence. Education and jailing those who wish not to be "enlightened" toward the civil rights of others, will do the job.
Reply #39 Sunday, December 21, 2008 6:02 PM
Actually, Karen...with WG's new app it's more like: 
Linux "Red Sombrero"
Reply #40 Sunday, December 21, 2008 6:06 PM
The American Citizenship exam in a nutshell: To be willing to fight to the death to defend another citizen's right to express an ideology which may be abhorrent to you.
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Reply #21 Sunday, December 21, 2008 11:27 AM
No, I don't fear terrorism, because death by terrorism is quick and unexpected. I don't believe in a god, but I believe that the nature of things in regards to death -- that we don't know when it's going to be -- is a good thing. Quick and unexpected gives me more time to enjoy the present moment, and the present moment is all we really have.
Much worse than terrorism, is the torture of knowing the end is imminent, like being given a terminal cancer diagnosis, or being falsely imprisoned and sitting on death row. Fanatics with improvised weapons are no more of a threat to me personally than driving on I-4 here in Florida, and I face that threat to my life on a regular basis. I don't think about it, because if my demise comes at the hands of either terrorists or in a deadly auto accident on the freeway, I'm not plagued by it's imminence.
All life faces threats to the continuation of that life, and the threats are either overcome or they aren't. Once they aren't overcome, the threat no longer matters and if the threat IS overcome...well, Doc said it best: "They tried to kills us, we survived. Let's eat!"
The real battle when it comes to terrorism, isn't about weapons, or religion, or security--it's about the mind. Surrending your mind to the torture of the threat from terrorism is, in my opinion, defeat. True freedom and lasting peace comes from within the mind. I refuse to surrender freedom and lasting peace to anyone.