Thank Goodness It's All Over And Things Can Go Back To Normal

Barack Obama wins the US Election.

Wednesday, November 5, 2008 by starkers | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk

Well the fat lady has sung and the US Predidential Election 2008 is finally over.  Congratulations to Barack Obama and commissurations to John McCain, who was gracious in defeat and asked the American people to support Obama's Presidency. 

Good on you John McCain.

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starkers
Reply #21 Wednesday, November 5, 2008 9:43 AM

C'mon I.D. Let's push together! We....all of us ..... want you here and please help! Conservative voices are just as important as anyone else's!

Let's put some partay in party and rejoice that someone who can reach across the aisle and wants to do that is at the helm.

And I thought John McCain's speech was a graceful and dignified one also.

The rejoicing in our democracy is genuine....from all over the world. This is a good thing. For all of us!

Right on there, Dr Jo... it is a time for rejoicing and cooperation, no matter which party you're from/follow, cos happiness and unity is what'll help the nation forge ever onwards, whereas division will keep it from the new dawn.

WebGizmos
Reply #22 Wednesday, November 5, 2008 9:44 AM

First off someone has to explain what normal is.

Good question Philly. Things have changed so much in this country over the last 12 years for the worse that normal doesn't quite describe it.

starkers
Reply #23 Wednesday, November 5, 2008 9:48 AM

First off someone has to explain what normal is.

Normal is.... having repeat prescriptions of Valium and Prozac... knowing when to put on your strait jacket and how to do it up. hehe

DrJBHL
Reply #24 Wednesday, November 5, 2008 9:53 AM

WebGizmos
First off someone has to explain what normal is.

Good question Philly. Things have changed so much in this country over the last 12 years for the worse that normal doesn't quite describe it.

Well, Time for a little Ghandi (one of my MAJOR heroes): "Be the change you wish to see in the world."

Doesn't matter so much what was. Matters more what needs fixing and going about it together.

I haven't felt this young in years. I feel we have a truly great President Elect here, and one who needs all of us to fix what's broken.

I am so proud of this country: We have gotten beyond the devisiveness. Let's continue to build the true greatness of this land we all love and respect!

 

Island Dog
Reply #25 Wednesday, November 5, 2008 9:56 AM

Probably because our goals weren't GW's. He had his own agenda and we didn't fit into it. "Maybe"now we can start working together again as a country...we'll see.

I don't support Obama's agenda, sorry (well not really). 

If you think Obama doesn't have his own agenda, well then there is nothing else that can be said.

 

WeatherBound
Reply #26 Wednesday, November 5, 2008 10:07 AM

Thanks to all Americans who voted!   We the people have spoken.

God bless America!

 

ImStein
Reply #27 Wednesday, November 5, 2008 10:10 AM

I don't support Obama's agenda, sorry (well not really).

If you think Obama doesn't have his own agenda, well then there is nothing else that can be said.

 

Every politian has an agenda...that is just a fact of life. ( and no, I don't agree with his agenda, nor did I agree with McCain's)


So the majority of Elect Votes have spoken. I wonder what the outcome would have been if every vote had been counted? Would this have been different? We will never know, because of a system created when communications were minimal. Time for change in the voting process as well as other major and minor issues.

Frogboy
Reply #28 Wednesday, November 5, 2008 10:23 AM

Island Dog

Probably because our goals weren't GW's. He had his own agenda and we didn't fit into it. "Maybe"now we can start working together again as a country...we'll see.

I don't support Obama's agenda, sorry (well not really). 

If you think Obama doesn't have his own agenda, well then there is nothing else that can be said.

 

I find this very interesting.  So, when someone's agenda doesn't match GW's, it's okay to badmouth him, call him a Nazi, do everything possible to thwart him.

But then, when that same person gets someone who agrees with them, then suddenly all of us are supposed to "get behind and push the cart" together. 

Personally, I'm taking a wait and see attitude.  But it's amazing how the left, which was incredibly obnoxious over the last 8 years now suddenly expects everyone to hold hands and support Obama.  

Philly0381
Reply #29 Wednesday, November 5, 2008 10:37 AM

I must say that times have changed.  By that I'm talking about when was taught to me in school which some may refer to as ancient history.

At what point did it change from the ideals that our country was founded on to the wants of a political party or certain individuals?

It is easy to understand why the world watches us to see whether we honor those ideals that we preach so loudly to others.

Just my opinion, no better than anyone else's.

DrJBHL
Reply #30 Wednesday, November 5, 2008 10:40 AM

I find this very interesting. So, when someone's agenda doesn't match GW's, it's okay to badmouth him, call him a Nazi, do everything possible to thwart him.

I posted references regarding his grandfather, Prescott Bush. I would never call someone that hateful name, Frogboy. My Mother's family was destroyed there...by them. I served in the Israeli Army and later in the Israeli Navy (after Med School), not to fight Nazis but to defend people from overwhelming odds. It was the values I learned here...American values at their best that enabled me to do that.

GWB was clearly not of their ilk. I feel he was manipulated by people with a specific agenda and that he damaged what he most wanted to defend. He was wrong for the job, but not an evil man by any stretch of the imagination.

I feel bad that you might think that of me.

Frogboy
Reply #31 Wednesday, November 5, 2008 10:45 AM

DrJBHL

I find this very interesting. So, when someone's agenda doesn't match GW's, it's okay to badmouth him, call him a Nazi, do everything possible to thwart him.

I posted references regarding his grandfather, Prescott Bush. I would never call someone that hateful name, Frogboy. My Mother's family was destroyed there...by them. I served in the Israeli Army and later in the Israeli Navy (after Med School), not to fight Nazis but to defend people from overwhelming odds. It was the values I learned here...American values at their best that enabled me to do that.

GWB was clearly not of their ilk. I feel he was manipulated by people with a specific agenda and that he damaged what he most wanted to defend. He was wrong for the job, but not an evil man by any stretch of the imagination.

I feel bad that you might think that of me.

I wasn't speaking of you specifically. I mean, over the past 8 years, the leftwing hatred of Bush has been off the charts. They even have a term for it - Bush Derangement Syndrome.  

And yet, when Obama gets elected, everyone is expected to love him? Me, I'll wait and see what he actually does. But I certainly dont' support his stated political agenda.

Lantec
Reply #32 Wednesday, November 5, 2008 10:57 AM

But it's amazing how the left, which was incredibly obnoxious over the last 8 years now suddenly expects everyone to hold hands and support Obama.

This comes from the assumption that they have the moral high ground. If we lived in Utopia I would tend to agree, but we live in the real world and Utopian ideals sound good but rarely work.

There is no technological revolution on the horizon to save Obama the way it did for Clinton. He'll have his four years and then assume his place with Jimmy Carter in the category of good intentions.

CarGuy1
Reply #33 Wednesday, November 5, 2008 11:17 AM

I served in the Israeli Army and later in the Israeli Navy (after Med School), not to fight Nazis but to defend people from overwhelming odds.

Reading this, I find it interesting that you are supporting Obama with his ties to Rashid Khalidi.

 

Personally, I’m just happy that the barrage of Obama commercials will end.

starkers
Reply #34 Wednesday, November 5, 2008 11:20 AM

I don't support Obama's agenda, sorry (well not really)

Ya know, ID, I started this thread inthe hope all the bias and party politics would be left behind so we as a community, here on WC, in the US and the World could begin afresh in a new and exciting era.  Sadly, some of that sectarian divisiveness still exists and I must say that I'm quite disappointed.

OK, so you feel that you can not support Barack Obama, though I fail to see the logic in this, but surely you could support your fellow citizens who are happy with the result and work with them towards builind better futures together.

The time for sour grapes has passed, the time for unity is here and needs to be embraced, cos pissing and moaning about who won or lost isn't going o change the fact

C'mon, mate, your'e not that deeply Republican that you can't let bygones be bygones to move forwards with the rest of the nation, surely.

HG_Eliminator
Reply #35 Wednesday, November 5, 2008 11:27 AM

sigh.

starkers
Reply #36 Wednesday, November 5, 2008 11:37 AM

sigh.

Exactly, I started this thread to congratulate Barack Obama and give kudos to John McCain for being so gracious in defeat, hoping of course the election's end would bring about the end of the political bickering.... obviously I over-estimated the people I hoped would leave it be and move on to more pleasant discourse.

It's sad that, the majority have something to celebrate, yet there are still party poopers dredging up the past from the sewers to cast an unpleasany odour over everything.

To say I'm disappointed is an understatement

Castle
Reply #37 Wednesday, November 5, 2008 12:14 PM

Island Dog
Terrible day for America indeed, but hopefully we can get back to normal. 

 

A terrible day indeed.  Look on the bright side.  We're about to acquire a whole lot of new "friends."

Seriously though, I honestly hope it all works out.  I really do.

k10w3
Reply #38 Wednesday, November 5, 2008 12:46 PM

Island Dog

Terrible day for America indeed, but hopefully we can get back to normal...

I don't remember that being said over the last 4 years.  

Just remember, you aren't hearing conservatives scream about how they are leaving the country...


I don't support Obama's agenda, sorry (well not really). 
 

This is why I like you, Island Dog.  I totally understand your attitude.

 

Although I supported and voted for Obama, I wasn't as excited about his victory as I should have been, but my daughter was pointing this out to her friend right after the announcement that Barach had won..."Mom doesn't like satisfaction as much as she does disappointment because she doesn't have anything to bitch about when she gets what she wants."

 

WebGizmos
Reply #39 Wednesday, November 5, 2008 1:08 PM

On a lighter note...at least we didn't have any hanging chads or recounts to deal with again.

unclerob
Reply #40 Wednesday, November 5, 2008 1:23 PM

I didn't follow the election as closely as I would have liked, was it a close race in the end, how many votes were cast for each candidate, how many did Obama win by?

Another interesting thing I heard was this was the greatest voter turnout in american history  - that sounds pretty cool by itself, more people got involved in the vote.

African American president, another 1st in history - that sounds very promising when you look at it from an outsider's point of view (I'm canadian and our politics is nowhere near as exciting).

I bet you he is also the first president without an english like last name (ex. Bush, Reagan, Clinton, Ford, Carter), President OBAMA really sounds different.  Obviously a name doesn't make a president any better but it's interesting trivia for sure.

Some info on the voting#'s would be great!

 

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