Did TSF backstab the skinning community?
Sunday, November 2, 2008 by BX | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
Having read the following statement - mentioned on a mojor forum dedicated to piracy- I feel that TSF has really betrayed and backstabbed the skinning community
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I know some fellows might get a bit uneasy but in my personal view this is really a bad .. in simple words shameful. Stardock/WC stuff has been pirated since ages and they could have done that too but they refused to bow to those nasty freaks and it is one the reasons that made me to love sd/wc guys.
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Reply #2 Sunday, November 2, 2008 11:38 AM
But isnt it like bargaining with criminals to eliminate the cirmes?
Reply #4 Sunday, November 2, 2008 11:52 AM
You could look at it that way. But I don't think they've backstabbed anyone here. Has Stardock backstabbed the gaming industry by offering DRM free games?
Reply #5 Sunday, November 2, 2008 11:56 AM
Who cares?
It's a)TSF and 
a pirate board.
And what are YOU doing on that board?
Reply #7 Sunday, November 2, 2008 12:04 PM
I think SD is not selling DRM-Free games to just pirates .. do they? or is it their properly defined business decision?
I had reported that site to Koop/I-D!
Reply #8 Sunday, November 2, 2008 12:11 PM
So, they've managed to turn a site dedicated to stealing TSF software into one where people can get a discount for legitimately purchasing it and where posting TSF's stolen material will no longer be tolerated.
Um, that's just smart, contemporary, digital age thinking in my book. It might generate revenue, and it's guaranteed to cut down on piracy on that site at least.
If the five major content producers would think out of the box a little like this they might stay in business rather than be going the way of the dinosaurs...
Reply #9 Sunday, November 2, 2008 12:16 PM
That's my thinking as well. I don't think TSF did it to appease the pirates. It's smart on their part. They cut out piracy on that site (at least) and maybe make some money too. And that's what it's all about, lets not kid ourselves, making money.
Reply #10 Sunday, November 2, 2008 4:54 PM
Of course in doing such a deal the owners of the forum have demonstrated it is within their power to control pirate links.
Reply #11 Sunday, November 2, 2008 5:14 PM
Its not backstabbing anyone imo and why were u on the site? 
Actually you should remove that code from your post as its intended for visitors to that particular forum.
Reply #12 Sunday, November 2, 2008 6:34 PM
It's like a virtual Black Market. Gotta pay the mob for protection. 
Reply #13 Sunday, November 2, 2008 7:13 PM
I don't think this qualifies as "backstabbing". I would be more concerned with the people who buy the software/skins and then "share" them among forums like this.
Also, trusting sites like this is like trusting a crackhead to clean your house. All these forums have private areas where they trade with "trusted" members, so this "discount" really won't stop anything.
Reply #15 Sunday, November 2, 2008 10:26 PM
First of all, as I had said that it is in my view is like having joined hands with criminals to limit the crimes. As the SD stuff has been pirated since ages and they could have offered such an option for those pirates but did they? And a clear answer is a big NO. Instead of joinging hands with those criminals why not TSF reports that site/forum to the ones providing them with net-space and hosting their servers as SD peole do?? why dont they use the right of inltellectual property?
SD really puts like thounsands of $$$ to develope software/skins having their own skinning engines and original in concept but what TSF has? A bundle of hypersutes which really does nothing but patching/hacking the dlls which are actually the property of Microsoft?? In my view, it is just the difference of determination and nothing else!
What would be the feelings of you guyes when one day you would come to know SD has a special discount for members of a pirate site? Wont you feel that you could have saved the money if you were one of those pirates? what will be the image of SD will be in your mind?
Reply #16 Sunday, November 2, 2008 10:42 PM
Jesh can defend himself, but I don't have a clue where you're getting that from.
Reply #17 Sunday, November 2, 2008 11:03 PM
http://draginol.joeuser.com/article/310691/Some_thoughts_on_Hyperdesk
Reply #18 Sunday, November 2, 2008 11:22 PM
Interesting read (a little dated).....someone a lot smarter then me in skinning is going to have to address what it really does in it's final version, but I don't think it touches the files....
.....sure as hell could be wrong.
Reply #19 Sunday, November 2, 2008 11:57 PM
.....sure as hell could be wrong.
It does change/patch the files ... I confirm ... Personally checked!
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Reply #1 Sunday, November 2, 2008 11:36 AM
Why do you feel that TSF has backstabbed the skinning community? They are doing something to try and counter piracy of their intellectual property. Nothing more.