umm help
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Wednesday, August 6, 2008 by i8pie2day1 | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
Hey im new to skinning and my attempt to make a big project crashed and burned soo now im asking for help on how to make parts of a skin so that i can get more into the community... the questions i have are
1. how to you use transparent pixels. do you need a transparent alpha channel.
A. if so how to i do it in GIMP
2. how do i use photoshop to edit a 3d image after i render it.
3. I dont have enough money to get an expensive graphics program... so do you know of any good free 3d graphics programs. im using wings3d
A. if this is the best free program (or really cheap one) than do you know of any rendering plugins.
4. should i draw things on paper before trying to recreate them on the computer.
5. How the heck do you use wings 3d because i cant make any complicated shapes with it. am all im supposed to use are the filters???
6. any useful tips.
7. who do i ask if i cant finish something on my own.
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Xiandi
Reply #2 Wednesday, August 6, 2008 1:10 AM
GIMP or Paint.net are good free replacements for Photoshop. Either will work, just play around with them and see which one you like best. There are lots of tutorials out there for them too.
Reply #2 Wednesday, August 6, 2008 1:10 AM
figured out, if I create a .png in PSP, then open that with paint.net (free) - then paint.net would save as a .tga and skin studio would use it
Assuming he is going to make a windowblind...GIMP or Paint.net are good free replacements for Photoshop. Either will work, just play around with them and see which one you like best. There are lots of tutorials out there for them too.
zakai1369
Reply #3 Wednesday, August 6, 2008 1:24 AM
Reply #3 Wednesday, August 6, 2008 1:24 AM
A better way to start out 
... I think you'll find many people will be helpful around here 
... I think you'll find many people will be helpful around here 
i8pie2day1
Reply #4 Wednesday, August 6, 2008 2:59 AM
Reply #4 Wednesday, August 6, 2008 2:59 AM
yeah i think so too. i usually like to think BIG but i guess on my other post i thought TOO BIG
i8pie2day1
Reply #5 Wednesday, August 6, 2008 3:02 AM
i have photoshop elements and that is kinda suckish so yeah... lol but i can do some OK stuff with it. i havnt used gimp much because i just downloaded but can GIMP open .psd files... and do photoshop brushes work with GIMP (same question about filters)
Reply #5 Wednesday, August 6, 2008 3:02 AM
GIMP or Paint.net are good free replacements for Photoshop. Either will work, just play around with them and see which one you like best. There are lots of tutorials out there for them too.
i have photoshop elements and that is kinda suckish so yeah... lol but i can do some OK stuff with it. i havnt used gimp much because i just downloaded but can GIMP open .psd files... and do photoshop brushes work with GIMP (same question about filters)
2of3
Reply #6 Wednesday, August 6, 2008 4:41 AM
If you have Pint.net, you can download a lot of great plugins including the .psd plugin.
Browse this page: WWW Link
Reply #6 Wednesday, August 6, 2008 4:41 AM
i have photoshop elements and that is kinda suckish so yeah... lol but i can do some OK stuff with it. i havnt used gimp much because i just downloaded but can GIMP open .psd files... and do photoshop brushes work with GIMP (same question about filters)
If you have Pint.net, you can download a lot of great plugins including the .psd plugin.
Browse this page: WWW Link
Pixeleo
Reply #7 Wednesday, August 6, 2008 5:01 AM
Reply #7 Wednesday, August 6, 2008 5:01 AM
I have never used Photoshop. I have GIMP and Microsoft Paint and Paint.NET, and everything I need gets done in GIMP.
Yes, I think GIMP can open .psd files, though I've very little luck with that feature. Your mileage might vary though
As Bichur said, open up some skins and see how they're done. The best starters learn through trial and error.
Do you have anything in particular that you want to skin? Then download a skin from that app and open it up. Make a copy and start editing it. Then when you think you've done good, try that skin and see if it's good, or if you can improve it anywhere. See if it's distorted or not.
There are many ways to do that, but I use the Color To Aplha feature the most.
In GIMP, for example if you make an icon [Just suppose] and it's color is black on a white background. If you want to remove the white background from the icon, you select the layer with the white and go to Color> Color to Alpha. From there, choose the white color [they differ a bit in shade] and click OK.
I'd like to know about other ways to do this, it'd really help me a lot in GIMP
Yes, I think GIMP can open .psd files, though I've very little luck with that feature. Your mileage might vary though
As Bichur said, open up some skins and see how they're done. The best starters learn through trial and error.
Do you have anything in particular that you want to skin? Then download a skin from that app and open it up. Make a copy and start editing it. Then when you think you've done good, try that skin and see if it's good, or if you can improve it anywhere. See if it's distorted or not.
how to you use transparent pixels. do you need a transparent alpha channel.
A. if so how to i do it in GIMP
A. if so how to i do it in GIMP
There are many ways to do that, but I use the Color To Aplha feature the most.
In GIMP, for example if you make an icon [Just suppose] and it's color is black on a white background. If you want to remove the white background from the icon, you select the layer with the white and go to Color> Color to Alpha. From there, choose the white color [they differ a bit in shade] and click OK.
I'd like to know about other ways to do this, it'd really help me a lot in GIMP
Pixeleo
Reply #8 Wednesday, August 6, 2008 5:03 AM
So they're loading beer into software too? 
Reply #8 Wednesday, August 6, 2008 5:03 AM
Pint.net
So they're loading beer into software too? 
eddyhaze
Reply #10 Wednesday, August 6, 2008 6:26 AM
Reply #10 Wednesday, August 6, 2008 6:26 AM
i don't know much about 3d programs i played around a little with 3d max but got no were, right now im useing blender its a free program its like a cheap 3d max, im getting to the point were i can make shapes and save them to hard drive i figure if i can learn blender i can move up to better programs in time.
WebGizmos
Reply #11 Wednesday, August 6, 2008 7:00 AM
Nah....thats the smaller version of Paint.net! But not a bad idea Pixeleo!
Reply #11 Wednesday, August 6, 2008 7:00 AM
So they're loading beer into software too?
Nah....thats the smaller version of Paint.net!
But not a bad idea Pixeleo!
i8pie2day1
Reply #12 Wednesday, August 6, 2008 1:50 PM
Reply #12 Wednesday, August 6, 2008 1:50 PM
thanks for your guys help and support... but can someone tell me how to edit 3d stuff in photoshop/GIMP (or the beer software)
Xiandi
Reply #13 Wednesday, August 6, 2008 10:34 PM
Reply #13 Wednesday, August 6, 2008 10:34 PM
Gimp is not a 3D program. You can't rotate things to see all it's sides, etc. (I think that's your line of thought) However, if you've made and image in a 3D program, and open it with GIMP you can edit the 'flat' picture of it.
Am I making sense here?
Maybe it would help a little if you tell us what you are trying to achieve, and we can point you in the right direction.
Am I making sense here?
Maybe it would help a little if you tell us what you are trying to achieve, and we can point you in the right direction.
vStyler
Reply #14 Wednesday, August 6, 2008 10:52 PM
Reply #14 Wednesday, August 6, 2008 10:52 PM
You can sorta edit 3d objects in PS CS3 but its very limited and pretty BS really.
i8pie2day1
Reply #15 Wednesday, August 6, 2008 11:49 PM
ok i knew that you couldnt rotate in gimp/photoshop but what i mean is... lets say i created a shape and rendered it and now i upload it into photoshop. and lets say my picture is a pair of dice. is there anyway i can edit the rendering I.E. make one of the dice on the dots purple one red one blue etc. do you get what im saying.... anyways.
and i dont have photoshop CS anything (i have the sucky elements version) lol and does gimp have a gradient everlay like CS3
Reply #15 Wednesday, August 6, 2008 11:49 PM
Gimp is not a 3D program. You can't rotate things to see all it's sides, etc. (I think that's your line of thought) However, if you've made and image in a 3D program, and open it with GIMP you can edit the 'flat' picture of it. Am I making sense here? Maybe it would help a little if you tell us what you are trying to achieve, and we can point you in the right direction.
ok i knew that you couldnt rotate in gimp/photoshop but what i mean is... lets say i created a shape and rendered it and now i upload it into photoshop. and lets say my picture is a pair of dice. is there anyway i can edit the rendering I.E. make one of the dice on the dots purple one red one blue etc. do you get what im saying.... anyways.
and i dont have photoshop CS anything (i have the sucky elements version) lol and does gimp have a gradient everlay like CS3
Xiandi
Reply #16 Thursday, August 7, 2008 12:10 AM
Reply #16 Thursday, August 7, 2008 12:10 AM
superman
Reply #17 Thursday, August 7, 2008 2:17 AM
Reply #17 Thursday, August 7, 2008 2:17 AM
First of all u should have made it clear which of skins you want to make.
To don't u color the dices in 3d program itself. Use 3d brush for it.
U have to export it in some image formats to edit in 2d.
Paint.net is much easier than gimp and photoshop.
Swift3d is a cheap option but its not stable and particularly designed for flash.
The best free 3d programs are
1 blender.. its a dream if u r able to learn it. And u will if u learn tutorials
2. 3d canvas
3. 3d brush
4. Daz3d ..at least 1gb ram
..and many more
To don't u color the dices in 3d program itself. Use 3d brush for it.
U have to export it in some image formats to edit in 2d.
Paint.net is much easier than gimp and photoshop.
Swift3d is a cheap option but its not stable and particularly designed for flash.
The best free 3d programs are
1 blender.. its a dream if u r able to learn it. And u will if u learn tutorials
2. 3d canvas
3. 3d brush
4. Daz3d ..at least 1gb ram
..and many more
WeatherBound
Reply #20 Thursday, August 7, 2008 12:34 PM
I never knew this.
thanks
Reply #20 Thursday, August 7, 2008 12:34 PM
If you have Pint.net, you can download a lot of great plugins including the .psd plugin.
I never knew this.
thanks
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Reply #1 Wednesday, August 6, 2008 12:38 AM
figured out, if I create a .png in PSP, then open that with paint.net (free) - then paint.net would save as a .tga and skin studio would use it
it helps some to get and keep an idea going
open some skins up and see how they were done
Po' Smedley