Weekly Poll: Skinning Groups
Tuesday, June 3, 2008 by Zoomba | Discussion: WinCustomize News
This week's poll is about a potential feature that's being debated internally for the next major update to WinCustomize. Since we're gearing up for the GUI Champs, and a major feature of the competition has always been forming skinning teams, we wanted to know if something like that would be a good addition to WinCustomize proper.
Should WinCustomize add a "Group" feature to allow skinners to affiliate themselves with one another, and to work together and post skins under a team label?
Vote in the poll. And share how you'd like such a system to work in the comments below.
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Reply #22 Tuesday, June 3, 2008 6:43 PM
I can confirm that
Reply #22 Tuesday, June 3, 2008 6:43 PM
and how come there was an edit button after this post and not my others?
Bugs.
I can confirm that
Jafo
Reply #25 Tuesday, June 3, 2008 7:07 PM
Reply #25 Tuesday, June 3, 2008 7:07 PM
my suggestions......1.) Have WC supply storage space for shared "team" graphics to be posted with team access via FTP2.) Have team logo below avatar like Monkey-lizard wizop thing and Stardock Support thing.3.) Require WC Membership to belong to a team.4.) Set Maximum team size to promote proliferation.5.) No Religious or Political teams.
I'm for all of that....except with the size-limit....that'd need to be open-ended for the Community Skin suites of such scale as Heavy Equipment....
Wizard1956
Reply #26 Tuesday, June 3, 2008 7:30 PM
Reply #26 Tuesday, June 3, 2008 7:30 PM
Never mind My link isn't working.(Insert funny picture here)
TYCUS
Reply #27 Wednesday, June 4, 2008 1:44 AM
Reply #27 Wednesday, June 4, 2008 1:44 AM
3.) Require WC Membership to belong to a team.
why? ...i know it's only an idea but if this happend then "some(few.., one more than none)" good and talented people wont get into any team.
Lantec
Reply #28 Wednesday, June 4, 2008 7:37 AM
Frankly, I'd expect it would be more than just a few Tycus......but if the site's gonna provide the storage/communication space as well as coding to make it all work it should be compensated. I see it as another incentive item that can be added to the membership program.
It wouldn't mean that you and some friend skinners couldn't set up shop at DA and work together and then submit skins under one name/user ID
Reply #28 Wednesday, June 4, 2008 7:37 AM
then "some(few.., one more than none)" good and talented people wont get into any team.
Frankly, I'd expect it would be more than just a few Tycus......but if the site's gonna provide the storage/communication space as well as coding to make it all work it should be compensated. I see it as another incentive item that can be added to the membership program.
It wouldn't mean that you and some friend skinners couldn't set up shop at DA and work together and then submit skins under one name/user ID
zakai1369
Reply #29 Wednesday, June 4, 2008 8:24 AM
Reply #29 Wednesday, June 4, 2008 8:24 AM
The problem I would see with requiring WC membership to belong to a team is that you will then end up with some people who are on teams that aren't able to spend as much time skinning as their teammates. Which in turn could end up causing problems within the teams.
ZubaZ
Reply #30 Wednesday, June 4, 2008 9:22 AM
Reply #30 Wednesday, June 4, 2008 9:22 AM
Which in turn could end up causing problems within the teams.
That's the team's problem, not WCs.
tiomio
Reply #31 Wednesday, June 4, 2008 9:22 AM
It depends on what the goal of setting up teams is. I do not see anything in the initial post that implies that this was being done to add incentive for users to subscribe. If it is to encourage community type projects or collaborations, than requiring WC membership may not be the best idea.
Besides, they already provide "storage and communication space" so that it can be done already without the teams feature. You have the forums, IRC and private messaging for communication, and a graphics section is already in the gallery. Accts can be made as often as desired and the avatar can become the logo. All of this is currently available to non-subscribers.
Reply #31 Wednesday, June 4, 2008 9:22 AM
but if the site's gonna provide the storage/communication space as well as coding to make it all work it should be compensated. I see it as another incentive item that can be added to the membership program.
It depends on what the goal of setting up teams is. I do not see anything in the initial post that implies that this was being done to add incentive for users to subscribe. If it is to encourage community type projects or collaborations, than requiring WC membership may not be the best idea.
Besides, they already provide "storage and communication space" so that it can be done already without the teams feature. You have the forums, IRC and private messaging for communication, and a graphics section is already in the gallery. Accts can be made as often as desired and the avatar can become the logo. All of this is currently available to non-subscribers.
zakai1369
Reply #32 Wednesday, June 4, 2008 11:02 AM
But if WC was requiring all members to join a team then it is the root of the problem.
Reply #32 Wednesday, June 4, 2008 11:02 AM
That's the team's problem, not WCs
But if WC was requiring all members to join a team then it is the root of the problem.
ZubaZ
Reply #33 Wednesday, June 4, 2008 11:28 AM
Reply #33 Wednesday, June 4, 2008 11:28 AM
But if WC was requiring all members to join a team then it is the root of the problem.
There would be no requiermetn to join a team . . just an option.
Zoomba
Reply #34 Wednesday, June 4, 2008 12:08 PM
Reply #34 Wednesday, June 4, 2008 12:08 PM
Great discussion so far and good ideas!
To clarify a few points...
- Special Privileges
There will be no real privileges for being on a team. It's not like your work will get past moderation any quicker, or you'll get special forum powers. - Requiring Subscriptions
Since we're primarily going to be extending free services (uploads, personal pages etc). A subscription will not be required. However, we could at a future point offer some sort of premium version of the service for skinning studios such as MaxStyles or Pixtudio (just as examples). But that would be something separate and much further down the line. - Requiring Users Join Teams
Nope, this will be 100% voluntary.
The idea is to provide organizational tools to users to help encourage teamwork and coopration. Yes, everything that could be done in the team system could be done manually through existing site features, but it isn't necessarily easy. Features like this are about removing barriers and to make the process easier for skinners.
Personally, I want WC to start providing tools and services to skinners beyond simply hosting the skins for download. Anyone can host a gallery, but we should be doing everything we can to encourage and help skinners do what they do.
ZubaZ
Reply #35 Wednesday, June 4, 2008 12:22 PM
Reply #35 Wednesday, June 4, 2008 12:22 PM
Special PrivilegesThere will be no real privileges for being on a team. It's not like your work will get past moderation any quicker, or you'll get special forum powers.
Would a team made of all journeyman (or higher) skip moderation?
Philly0381
Reply #36 Wednesday, June 4, 2008 12:46 PM
Reply #36 Wednesday, June 4, 2008 12:46 PM
I know this all started out as pole question and it really does sound good and deserving of consideration. I am though now starting to have some reservations as I read the replies.
It is interesting that this online community does seem to parallel the real world.
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It is interesting that this online community does seem to parallel the real world.
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zakai1369
Reply #37 Wednesday, June 4, 2008 3:39 PM
In that case it would be a good thing. I was just responding to a couple of posts that mentioned the idea of making it a requirement.
This all sounds great
Reply #37 Wednesday, June 4, 2008 3:39 PM
There would be no requiermetn to join a team . . just an option.
In that case it would be a good thing. I was just responding to a couple of posts that mentioned the idea of making it a requirement.
Great discussion so far and good ideas!
To clarify a few points...
Special PrivilegesThere will be no real privileges for being on a team. It's not like your work will get past moderation any quicker, or you'll get special forum powers.
Requiring SubscriptionsSince we're primarily going to be extending free services (uploads, personal pages etc). A subscription will not be required. However, we could at a future point offer some sort of premium version of the service for skinning studios such as MaxStyles or Pixtudio (just as examples). But that would be something separate and much further down the line.
Requiring Users Join TeamsNope, this will be 100% voluntary.
The idea is to provide organizational tools to users to help encourage teamwork and coopration. Yes, everything that could be done in the team system could be done manually through existing site features, but it isn't necessarily easy. Features like this are about removing barriers and to make the process easier for skinners.
Personally, I want WC to start providing tools and services to skinners beyond simply hosting the skins for download. Anyone can host a gallery, but we should be doing everything we can to encourage and help skinners do what they do.
To clarify a few points...
Special PrivilegesThere will be no real privileges for being on a team. It's not like your work will get past moderation any quicker, or you'll get special forum powers.
Requiring SubscriptionsSince we're primarily going to be extending free services (uploads, personal pages etc). A subscription will not be required. However, we could at a future point offer some sort of premium version of the service for skinning studios such as MaxStyles or Pixtudio (just as examples). But that would be something separate and much further down the line.
Requiring Users Join TeamsNope, this will be 100% voluntary.
The idea is to provide organizational tools to users to help encourage teamwork and coopration. Yes, everything that could be done in the team system could be done manually through existing site features, but it isn't necessarily easy. Features like this are about removing barriers and to make the process easier for skinners.
Personally, I want WC to start providing tools and services to skinners beyond simply hosting the skins for download. Anyone can host a gallery, but we should be doing everything we can to encourage and help skinners do what they do.
This all sounds great
Fuzzy Logic
Reply #38 Wednesday, June 4, 2008 3:59 PM
I would hope teams would all start at citizen level like any other collaborative effort.
Reply #38 Wednesday, June 4, 2008 3:59 PM
Would a team made of all journeyman (or higher) skip moderation?
I would hope teams would all start at citizen level like any other collaborative effort.
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Reply #21 Tuesday, June 3, 2008 6:23 PM
Things I'd like to see: