New DesktopX Web site coming

Looking for some beta testers

Thursday, April 24, 2008 by RomanDA | Discussion: DesktopX

Web site Beta Testers needed !! Thomas and Myself have been working on a new community web site devoted to DesktopX, the goal is to have a central location for things like: Tutorials Code Snippits Project News etc. The site is very much still in the BETA stage, but we want to try and get some feedback on what people think we should add, or change. Please use this thread to post comments, problems, suggestions. Thanks!
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GH33DA
Reply #1 Thursday, April 24, 2008 9:07 AM
DA!

I'll help
ZubaZ
Reply #2 Thursday, April 24, 2008 9:09 AM
I'll start poking around.

Thanks for doing this guys!
RomanDA
Reply #3 Thursday, April 24, 2008 9:13 AM
try and add yourself to the site, login, logout, look around, see what you can add,edit, etc. let me know if something is really fouled up... Any input would be appreciated.
GH33DA
Reply #4 Thursday, April 24, 2008 9:17 AM
How do I add comments?
RomanDA
Reply #5 Thursday, April 24, 2008 9:20 AM
How do I add comments?


comments about the site? or comments on something ON the site (ie a snippet etc?)
I dont think we have comments working on the site yet.
GH33DA
Reply #6 Thursday, April 24, 2008 9:22 AM
comments on something ON the site (ie a snippet etc?)


OK
RomanDA
Reply #7 Thursday, April 24, 2008 9:24 AM
comments about things wrong, additions, etc should go here on this post, so we have one location to look at.
thomassen
Reply #8 Thursday, April 24, 2008 12:31 PM
Comments are at the moment only possible on the news.

However, I've got a major update to the site coming up, which will allow comments on all sections. Later you'll be able to label/tag items as well.
RomanDA
Reply #9 Saturday, April 26, 2008 8:14 AM
bump bump anyone?
ZubaZ
Reply #10 Saturday, April 26, 2008 12:58 PM
Sorry David . .life in teh way.  I'll try to hit it on Monday.
Bichur
Reply #11 Saturday, April 26, 2008 10:49 PM
seeing code on the front page in the 'coming soon' & 'updated snippets' section on the left

registered, got the email
- used the 'activate instantly' line
- top part of the page asked for email and pw / bottom part was for activate
- entered email/pw clicked the button and was left with the bottom part asking for activation (didn't) notice it now showed my name upper right - entered the code - was told it was already activated = maybe it should have taken me to the home page when I logged in?


thomassen
Reply #12 Sunday, April 27, 2008 6:30 AM
The code you're seeing is from an old post where the text was parsed differently.
I'll be revising the whole login and register logic for the next update.
thomassen
Reply #13 Sunday, April 27, 2008 6:31 AM
What you guys can do is try to submit various code snippets and see if the code is formatted and coloured correctly.
ArileenDesign
Reply #14 Sunday, April 27, 2008 7:09 AM
Gonna Take a look into this new site Thanks Guys    
HG_Eliminator
Reply #15 Sunday, April 27, 2008 7:14 AM
Sorry David . .life in teh way.


I as well.
I get one day home a week and im already spending most of it here. She's gunna beat me...

Il try to get on by Asap tho.
DandoB
Reply #16 Sunday, April 27, 2008 7:26 AM
I checked out the site. Looks good to me. Clean, simple, easy to navigate. Since I'm not a programmer I like this idea and it will make a great repository to find scripts and help.
Vad_M
Reply #17 Sunday, April 27, 2008 9:54 AM
Hi David,

great idea   , new site looks good and I'll try to help you and Thomas. But...

Recently I have analyzed the download statistics for Featured DX widgets from the WC start page. Look at the results:

2004/2005 years: up to 1500
2006 year: 400 - 650
2007/2008 years: 100 - 350

You can see the quantity of downloads has fallen down more than in 4 times...   

The DesktopX community lost the best of its coders like Martin, Will Rose, Tiggs, etc. as well... There is only a few person which still try to think out and create something new. All the other just make a skins for old widgets (I think this is because of their own laziness...)

So I have two questions:
1. For whom you are going to do this site (who will read and study its content)?
2. Why you wish to work for other idlers (which will use your codes) free of charge? This is a hard work and I'm sure that someone should pay you and Thomas for it.
HAPTORK
Reply #18 Sunday, April 27, 2008 10:50 AM
The site looks great. Thanks a lot Roman and Thomassen.
This is the place I am gonna spend my most of the summer vacations.
The exams are still left and all the time I dream about what I m gonna do after exams. lol
thomassen
Reply #19 Sunday, April 27, 2008 11:39 AM
Hi David, great idea   , new site looks good and I'll try to help you and Thomas. But... Recently I have analyzed the download statistics for Featured DX widgets from the WC start page. Look at the results: 2004/2005 years: up to 15002006 year: 400 - 6502007/2008 years: 100 - 350 You can see the quantity of downloads has fallen down more than in 4 times...   The DesktopX community lost the best of its coders like Martin, Will Rose, Tiggs, etc. as well... There is only a few person which still try to think out and create something new. All the other just make a skins for old widgets (I think this is because of their own laziness...)So I have two questions: 1. For whom you are going to do this site (who will read and study its content)?2. Why you wish to work for other idlers (which will use your codes) free of charge? This is a hard work and I'm sure that someone should pay you and Thomas for it.


We where hoping it'd help get the DX community to grow. One of the things I want to add is a project section where people can create project pages for co-development where task would be set up. People with skills that fit the task could sign up and aid the development.

Another key feature with the site is that everything would be available in RSS (or other XML format) so it'd be very easy to browse code snippets. I've been thinking of a code snippet browser, and for that I needed a code repository. That was another reason for this site. Personally I'm not that concerned if it stays a niche site. As long as we can build up a nice community to supply the repository.

I haven't released many gadgets. However, I got many projects unreleased. While I don't think the whole projects aren't complete, there's many snippets that might be useful and I don't mind sharing.
RomanDA
Reply #20 Monday, April 28, 2008 2:11 PM
Vad_M,

I understand, and i agree with a lot of what you said. But maybe this will help DX pick up a little steam. This is all on my dime, except the coding of the site and Thomas is very graciously donating that, he has put a TON of work into it. We had plans to get this out early last year, but both of us have these things called LIVES and they have been in the way a LOT.

I guess my thinking was mainly to have a great location for code snippets for me and anyone else who might want to make use of them. Yes, I agree with Vad that a lot of people just take code, make the same crud, and then plop out the same junk over and over. But My hope is that if the code base is larger people might be able to make some better widgets. My other goal was to have a place where people could come and put up something like..

Looking for a gadget that allows me to .....

If its a good idea than I would look into trying to make it, or maybe get others involved into making things. There are a lot of great graphics people and great coders, we need to combine them. If someone posts an idea, than its free to the world to come up with a solution, the only thing i would see as a perc is that they should get a copy of the final product free for the idea. Thus solving the problem they posted, and allowing the new gadget/widget to be sold or given away.

To be honest, i have lost a lot of my drive for DX over the past year, seeing how long it has taken for 3.5 to come out, and the promise of a "skinable" DX in 4.x was really going to be great, but it looks like it vanished. I know there is a HUGE market for these gadgets, but its in what stardock is doing now, MARKETING, people will give their $ away to anything to support their team, or driver, etc. But if its just a basic productivity gadget no one seems to think any amount is worth it.

I have not had any time to put into this lately and i wanted to at least see what the interest level is, before i decide to pay for more hosting..

Will post more later.. work calls.

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