DELETE THIS POST it is Obsolete Wal * Mart

whats up with them

Thursday, December 6, 2007 by Disturbedcomputer | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk

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Disturbedcomputer
Reply #41 Thursday, December 6, 2007 12:27 PM
Zubaz you have every right to be disgusted by this post. I couldn't agree more with you but we do have to remember what happens in the forums. When ever someone lacks the ability to hold an intelliengent conversation, what do they resort to? They put some bait on the hook, drop their line in the water and see if anyone will take the bait. Pretty much like a politician.


than has nothing to do with this post

Disturbedcomputer
Reply #42 Thursday, December 6, 2007 12:31 PM
Why does Wal*Mart not sell CD's with "Parental Advisory Explicit Lyrics" on them?
When they sell Video games and Movies with visual aid - Blood, Killing, Sex, Cussing, Rap, Fighting...

and then they say we are a family orient store... Etc.

oh not to mention they sell Guns and other weapons.
And if they are truly a family orientation store...
then they should not be selling birth control.. LOL
doesn't this stop one from having or adding to one’s family?

hhmm, not so family orientation after all...




I put it here so you can re-read
if you don't like my post then leave..
SKoriginals
Reply #43 Thursday, December 6, 2007 1:34 PM
DC, ZubaZ does have a point in that this thread is way off-base. Wal-Mart chooses to sell what they want and even makes its own prices to the companies they buy from. As a Business they have any and all rights to do so. You don't have to like it or agree to it. You don't have to shop there, these things you are 'complaining' about are available elsewhere.

As for alot of the other things (which according to DC, do not apply to this thread), this country isn't perfect. I agree Bush is an idiot and has done a piss poor job (along with everyone else in Washington the last few years, its not ALL him). For way too long we have put our 'efforts' overseas when they should have been more involved with our own situations. And thats long before the first Bush was in office (didn't we get enough of that family then folks?). Either way, it is what it is. Complaining in this forum/thread isn't going to change it.
NightTrainthedark
Reply #44 Thursday, December 6, 2007 1:44 PM
I suppose I am to blame for sending the thread off course but the original rant was so ridiculous I thought something intelligent could be discussed about Walmart. I was wrong. Intelligent conversations rarely happen in forums.
eieio
Reply #45 Thursday, December 6, 2007 2:11 PM
Sort of what Jafo does here?


  
my wall
Reply #46 Thursday, December 6, 2007 2:12 PM
I’m not a fan of wal*mart's practices, The principal of wal mart itself is down right evil. If you know how wal mart really works you would agree, but this problem goes deeper than wal*mart.

The problem here is outsourcing/globalization, which is really a form of empire that only a selected few enjoy, has systematically destroyed the U.S. America currently does not have a real economy, and has not enjoyed a real economy for decades, despite what wall street will have you believe, and i'll explain.

Free trade is not synonymous with freedom or even the American tradition, but rather a method of destroying the sovereignty of nation states by slowly eliminating their productive capabilities through slave labor and financial oligarchs. That was the intent of free trade system since it was first aped by a British “economist” by the name of Adam Smith and his “invisible hand”.

If you read your history the founding fathers and the American system of political economy as premised in the constitution was against a free trade system because it is the British system of empire, the one the founding fathers were trying to get away from.

Since the implementation of free trade, which is essentially a system of slavery, the U.S. economy has drastically been in a state of decline. Since foreign work is “cheaper” American businesses started “outsourcing” work to countries that had no labor laws or wage laws, it was basically slavery. The problem with a free trade system is that when you outsource for “free” labor, and without protectionism you destroy your domestic work force because “free” foreign labor and “cheaper” products are competing against domestic “fair” labor and domestic product.

The unfortunate end result is a shutting down of local business and local production. Skilled workers lose their skilled jobs and have to seek low wage employment, communities and municipalities collapse as people can no longer afford to live on low wage incomes. It’s foolish to think that free trade is not the problem. Furthermore we all know what kind of countries have no industry, businesses or local production.

There was a certain time in American history when slavery was allowed but thankfully it was defeated by American patriot Abraham Lincoln who payed with his life. He understood as every great leader understood the british system of free trade was one to keep away from because it’s underlining intent was to destroy the American system by eliminating the productive capability of the united states by reducing America into a third world country with a slave labor “economy”.

Unfortunately as a result of “free” trade, America now has what is called a "services" economy, that is they have an "economy" that relies on services ie make shift work, subscription services, wal mart greeters ect. as well as imports as form of GDP because America does NOT PRODUCE ANYTHING!

One could argue well if what you say is true, since there are so many dollars floating around in foreign countries due to the trade deficit how does the dollar keep from becoming worthless?

The united states, since it doesn’t have an economy has to deal with the trade deficit somehow, so the "financial" community creates off the book accounting "debt bubbles" which can never be repaid, but rather rolled back continuously until these debt bubbles can no longer be "rolled back" and they literally burst when the claims start coming in.

We are seeing this now with the "credit crunch" and the "sub-prime" blow out. The sad thing is that the little people as always have to pay these massive amounts of debt because a few rich people in the financial wall street community refuse to eat their gambling losses like everyone else.

I’m no fan of bush, while he did not create this mess he has done nothing to help fix the problem, in fact as a result of his mismanagement of the situation, the value of the dollar has been declining under his presidency at an accelerating rate far worse than any president in history, even worse then under Herbert Hoover.

The problem is the british system of free trade, eliminate this system by returning skilled productive employment to the united states and you’ll see people will have better jobs, they get to keep their houses, less poverty, functioning infrastructure, better municipalities, and competent federal response to natural disaster when needed.
jamespaulp
Reply #47 Thursday, December 6, 2007 2:17 PM
If not WalMart who else? What are they doing for the poor? I mean poor customers?

That's called FREEDOM. It's called AMERICA.


May not be for too long. Then we will call it U-ASS (Union of American Socialist States?)

NightTrainthedark
Reply #48 Thursday, December 6, 2007 2:30 PM
Why does Wal*Mart not sell CD's with "Parental Advisory Explicit Lyrics" on them?


Because Walmart stood up for something, the record labels caved and started making censored versions of mature CD's. Had the Record co's not gave in to Walmart's ultimatum, you would most likely see the unedited CD's on the shelves in Walmart. They are all greedy, someone will eventually realize something is better than nothing.
RPGFX
Reply #49 Thursday, December 6, 2007 2:49 PM
I don't care if someone works at wal-mart or the gas station or a low paying Factory job. they still should be making a wage that is livable on


Minimum wage is livable. The problem is people live WAY outside their means. When I was 19 I lived on 150 dollars a week. And I'm not talking about the 70's, I'm only 34 now. This was the early 90's. I didn't spend all my pay on cigarettes, booze, new rims and speakers for my car, 80 dollar jeans, etc. I paid my bills. I bought food. I paid rent. I bought clothes. I was just fine.
Philly0381
Reply #50 Thursday, December 6, 2007 2:58 PM
RPGFX, every conversation and or discussion has a bottom line. I do believe you may have found one here where wages/earnings are concerned.

It's not the bottom line for the original post I'm afraid. Not really sure we can find one for that.
Jafo
Reply #51 Thursday, December 6, 2007 5:53 PM

All those old retired guys that work as greeters at Walmart are forcing people to shop there ... snatching 'em right off the street ... threatening their loved ones and other dastardly strong-arm tactics.
Sort of what Jafo does here?

I'm not 'retired'.

I currently work two full-time jobs, am building a house extension and in my spare time I sleep - 5 hours is good....and I've never been closer than about 10,000 miles from any 'Wal Mart'....

Back on topic [whatever it is] ....definitions of 'family oriented' differing from that of/prescribed by Wal-Mart leads to disingenuation with a shop's content?

I think there's better issues 'out there' to get knickers-in-a-knot over....

vStyler
Reply #52 Thursday, December 6, 2007 6:01 PM
Main problems I have with Walmart are.. hard to find a parking space, EVERY buggy has a broken wheel and they have 40 registers.. and 3 open... lastly.. too damn big.

I still shop there every week, why wouldnt I ? It's cheaper, closer and all in one.(Liqor too)   
NightTrainthedark
Reply #53 Thursday, December 6, 2007 6:05 PM
I still shop there every week, why wouldnt I ? It's cheaper, closer and all in one.(Liqor too)


Nothing wrong with being a shopper.

HG_Eliminator
Reply #54 Thursday, December 6, 2007 6:18 PM
only a handful of rich white people richer.



James Cash is not white. (Walmart Board of directors)..
not to mention those in the list of senior officers..

Pulling a Race card out where it DOES not fit, is silly at best.
And can make the Poster Look Racially Biased...

Poverty knows no Racial boundary..theres plenty of White,Hispanic,Asian,Native American,Etc, People starving and below poverty levels in the world. Would you say those white folks starving and watching their Children waste away, are any less deserving of help, or their suffering/pain any less because of the color of their skin?

I don't care the color of a persons skin, if they are suffering and in need, their pain is real...
Philly0381
Reply #55 Thursday, December 6, 2007 6:30 PM
This is what I was trying to explain in my reply #39.

Have we seen the orignal poster back, no. He made some statments, no facts or intelligent conversation or discussion to support them. What he did was throw out his fishing line and by gosh he got some bites.

You people are a whole lot more intelligent than that.
NightTrainthedark
Reply #56 Thursday, December 6, 2007 7:33 PM
Pulling a Race card out where it DOES not fit, is silly at best.
And can make the Poster Look Racially Biased...


So I'm a racist for calling rich white people, rich white people?

Don't be so oversensetive to words. Soemtimes they are just that..words.
HG_Eliminator
Reply #57 Thursday, December 6, 2007 7:41 PM
Didnt say you were NT. just said it could be seen that way.. by pointing out the color of some of them (when it had not been brought up before) Could lend those who dont know you, to think your bias..

I also pointed out that the execs are not all white, there for rendering the "rich white people" phrase moot.








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NightTrainthedark
Reply #58 Thursday, December 6, 2007 7:43 PM
He's a Harvard Graduate, that's white enough for me.   
HG_Eliminator
Reply #59 Thursday, December 6, 2007 7:44 PM
doh....
NightTrainthedark
Reply #60 Thursday, December 6, 2007 7:45 PM
Your right though. I should have kept it at rich and poor instead of complicating matters.

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