Some things I'd like to see for ObjectDock
Wishfull thinking....
Friday, November 9, 2007 by messiah1 | Discussion: ObjectDock
Now, don't get me wrong, for the money ObjectDock plus is a rockin' program. I love it. And the past few upgrades have been super. As a monkey that makes skins for OD, I sometimes find myself limited in the things I can do as far as design, but that's to be expected. The developers can't read the minds of the folks using or designing for OD. I understand that. So here are a couple of things I'd like to see for ObjectDock, if you have any others, feel free to post 'em. (oh, and if any of these are already in OD, slap me)
1. I know I can set my tabs to be different colors and have different fonts...however, what I'd like to see is a way to have different color fonts for active/inactive tabs. For example, the active tab has a white font, the inactive tabs has a gray or black font.
2. Blurring! I'd love to see the same option that WB6 now has where you could turn on blurring for the docks...say you have a clear dock and where you can see through it is slightly blurred. That would rock.
3. Docks that can be curved. I know I can make curved docks...but how sweet would it be to have the icons follow the curve of the dock?
Ok, your turn.
1. I know I can set my tabs to be different colors and have different fonts...however, what I'd like to see is a way to have different color fonts for active/inactive tabs. For example, the active tab has a white font, the inactive tabs has a gray or black font.
2. Blurring! I'd love to see the same option that WB6 now has where you could turn on blurring for the docks...say you have a clear dock and where you can see through it is slightly blurred. That would rock.
3. Docks that can be curved. I know I can make curved docks...but how sweet would it be to have the icons follow the curve of the dock?
Ok, your turn.
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Bebi Bulma
Reply #42 Wednesday, June 11, 2008 6:46 PM
Flyout on hover only works on zoomers, not tabbed docks. At least that's what Giz told me.
Reply #42 Wednesday, June 11, 2008 6:46 PM
When I hover over the weather docklet the flyout works, without clicking.I always have to click mine,free also.I get current conditions on mouseover.Right click, Weather Docklet Properties, set to flyout on mouseover.
Flyout on hover only works on zoomers, not tabbed docks. At least that's what Giz told me.
zakai1369
Reply #43 Wednesday, June 11, 2008 7:06 PM
That would explain why I cant click that setting then.
Reply #43 Wednesday, June 11, 2008 7:06 PM
Flyout on hover only works on zoomers, not tabbed docks. At least that's what Giz told me.
That would explain why I cant click that setting then.
Wizard1956
Reply #44 Wednesday, June 11, 2008 7:26 PM
I go to config/appearance/background and click the arrow on the right of the list.The flyout opens.Click it again the flyout closes but you can use scroll to go through the backgrounds. Make sense?Works for me.
Reply #44 Wednesday, June 11, 2008 7:26 PM
Also, would be nice to actually see a preview of the background on the dock before actually applying it.
You can,sorta.I go to config/appearance/background and click the arrow on the right of the list.The flyout opens.Click it again the flyout closes but you can use scroll to go through the backgrounds. Make sense?Works for me.
Bebi Bulma
Reply #45 Wednesday, June 11, 2008 7:38 PM
Reply #45 Wednesday, June 11, 2008 7:38 PM
That's not what I mean. The "preview" in the list there only works for tabbed backgrounds that make use of actual "tabs" and I mean a preview of the entire dock, icons and all, with the background on there.
That is unless you mean something else, I'm not really sure without a screenshot.
Mine:
That is unless you mean something else, I'm not really sure without a screenshot.
Mine:
Wizard1956
Reply #46 Wednesday, June 11, 2008 10:01 PM
Reply #46 Wednesday, June 11, 2008 10:01 PM
We must be talking about different things.The free version lets me scroll through all of my backgrounds onto the dock on the desktop,not in a preview.
zakai1369
Reply #47 Wednesday, June 11, 2008 10:13 PM
Reply #47 Wednesday, June 11, 2008 10:13 PM
You can do the same in OD+ Wizard but the previews in the window itself are distorted and you have to start from the beginning of the list every time not from the skin you are currently using. It would be much nicer to avoid both of those things.
J. Aroche
Reply #48 Wednesday, June 11, 2008 10:22 PM
That is a great idea...
Reply #48 Wednesday, June 11, 2008 10:22 PM
and how's about a GUI for editing the ini files, with real-time updating/previewing...
That is a great idea...
horizon
Reply #49 Thursday, June 12, 2008 12:12 AM
Reply #49 Thursday, June 12, 2008 12:12 AM
I. windows class sub-level separation put back in.
II. zoomer docks skinning correctly like tabbed docks do.
III. give tabbed docks a real zoom function instead of overlaying a bigger version of the icon on top of itself which screws with transparencies/shadows and so forth.
IV. when choosing to assign a tabbed dock background, rather than the preview being a tab, be the dock background, or let us set up our own preview images for the backgrounds we make.
V. allow text color to be different between active and inactive through use of ini or letting end users change it through the properties window.
VI. allow tabs on left and right to have horizontal text.
VII. give me the ability to assign a hotkey function to pull up a dock rather than hotspots
VIII. allow us to change, or don't assign a default background/icon/tab. i delete what i don't use, that includes pretty much everything that is installed by default, but make a new dock after doing that and you have to hunt around your screen for an invisible dock.
IX. allow us to cycle through tabs to put on zoomer docks rather than applying a default [see above] or get the zoomers out of my selection window when assigning a skin to a tabbed dock.
X. transparency options for tabbed docks.
XI. an alternative to the flyout menu such as a flat out, not trying to be fancy, list; built in. yes it's pretty watching things spin around, but when you have more than a few items it's a chore to select the one you want.
XII. under "my docks" let us turn off or at least choose to not display a dock rather than deleting it. especially for us that make backgrounds it gets annoying to have to make, sort, and in the end delete "test docks", but surely other users would like a simple toggle for other reasons.
XIII. ability to change the flyout menu's arrows as well as the plus and minus buttons the same way you change running indicators.
XIV. agreed in the ability to change the clock hands, not just for customizations sake, but because if your clock is big enough you will notice they're a far cry from high quality, at least make the current clock hands 256x256.
XV. alignment of icons within tabbed docks since they do not stretch to fit like zoomers the same way you can change alignment of the tabs themselves.
II. zoomer docks skinning correctly like tabbed docks do.
III. give tabbed docks a real zoom function instead of overlaying a bigger version of the icon on top of itself which screws with transparencies/shadows and so forth.
IV. when choosing to assign a tabbed dock background, rather than the preview being a tab, be the dock background, or let us set up our own preview images for the backgrounds we make.
V. allow text color to be different between active and inactive through use of ini or letting end users change it through the properties window.
VI. allow tabs on left and right to have horizontal text.
VII. give me the ability to assign a hotkey function to pull up a dock rather than hotspots
VIII. allow us to change, or don't assign a default background/icon/tab. i delete what i don't use, that includes pretty much everything that is installed by default, but make a new dock after doing that and you have to hunt around your screen for an invisible dock.
IX. allow us to cycle through tabs to put on zoomer docks rather than applying a default [see above] or get the zoomers out of my selection window when assigning a skin to a tabbed dock.
X. transparency options for tabbed docks.
XI. an alternative to the flyout menu such as a flat out, not trying to be fancy, list; built in. yes it's pretty watching things spin around, but when you have more than a few items it's a chore to select the one you want.
XII. under "my docks" let us turn off or at least choose to not display a dock rather than deleting it. especially for us that make backgrounds it gets annoying to have to make, sort, and in the end delete "test docks", but surely other users would like a simple toggle for other reasons.
XIII. ability to change the flyout menu's arrows as well as the plus and minus buttons the same way you change running indicators.
XIV. agreed in the ability to change the clock hands, not just for customizations sake, but because if your clock is big enough you will notice they're a far cry from high quality, at least make the current clock hands 256x256.
XV. alignment of icons within tabbed docks since they do not stretch to fit like zoomers the same way you can change alignment of the tabs themselves.
messiah1
Reply #51 Thursday, June 12, 2008 7:38 AM
Reply #51 Thursday, June 12, 2008 7:38 AM
Glad to see there are some good ideas out there still. 
xnator
Reply #52 Thursday, June 12, 2008 8:52 AM
What docklet is that?
Reply #52 Thursday, June 12, 2008 8:52 AM
Good requests.4. Now this is probably a bit far-fetched, but hey... why not support animated icons? I wouldn't mind having a shimmering firefox logo or a folder that just kinda subtly glowed blue or something like that.
There is a docklet for this.
There is a docklet for this.
What docklet is that?
ZubaZ
Reply #53 Thursday, June 12, 2008 9:14 AM
Reply #53 Thursday, June 12, 2008 9:14 AM
As an aside . . I happen to know that the OD dev has seen this thread. 
Right-click on the dock | Add Entry | Animated Shortcut docklet
And a search of the OD library with some animates icons : https://www.wincustomize.com/skins.aspx?libid=29&search=animated&p=1
What docklet is that?
https://www.wincustomize.com/skins.aspx?skinid=2074&libid=29Right-click on the dock | Add Entry | Animated Shortcut docklet
And a search of the OD library with some animates icons : https://www.wincustomize.com/skins.aspx?libid=29&search=animated&p=1
xnator
Reply #54 Thursday, June 12, 2008 9:38 AM
Reply #54 Thursday, June 12, 2008 9:38 AM
thanks! it appears it works best in the zoomers though, the tabs are somewhat limited when it comes to effects (in the tab it either must constantly animate or not at all...)
messiah1
Reply #55 Thursday, June 12, 2008 10:19 AM
That's good news
Reply #55 Thursday, June 12, 2008 10:19 AM
As an aside . . I happen to know that the OD dev has seen this thread.
That's good news
cplair
Reply #56 Saturday, June 14, 2008 6:31 PM
Well, here I am late again! Since playing around with WinStep Extreme, I've become spoiled with the docks' ability to show it's icons reflection. Any icon!
Of course I immediately thought "wouldn't this be a blast if this effect could be applied to Object Dock icons as well?!"
The amount of reflection 0-100 and possibly Enable / Disable radial switches would have to be added to Object Dock's application code under EFFECTS I would imagine. But as I read this forum, I didn't see this anywhere as a suggestion, unless I missed one.
I guess I'm presenting this question to Messiah or WebGizmos, who I know will be straight forward.
Is there a plan to or is it even possible to add icon reflection to Object Docked icons? And if it is, what would necessitate designers such as Messiah and WebGiz to apply this effect to an already huge gallery, if it's something to be added to the current INI file?
There has to be an easy way to add reflection outside of hacking the INI.
I'm quite interested to hear about this.
Thanx...
Cp
Reply #56 Saturday, June 14, 2008 6:31 PM
Glad to see there are some good ideas out there still.
Well, here I am late again! Since playing around with WinStep Extreme, I've become spoiled with the docks' ability to show it's icons reflection. Any icon!
Of course I immediately thought "wouldn't this be a blast if this effect could be applied to Object Dock icons as well?!"
The amount of reflection 0-100 and possibly Enable / Disable radial switches would have to be added to Object Dock's application code under EFFECTS I would imagine. But as I read this forum, I didn't see this anywhere as a suggestion, unless I missed one.
I guess I'm presenting this question to Messiah or WebGizmos, who I know will be straight forward.
Is there a plan to or is it even possible to add icon reflection to Object Docked icons? And if it is, what would necessitate designers such as Messiah and WebGiz to apply this effect to an already huge gallery, if it's something to be added to the current INI file?
There has to be an easy way to add reflection outside of hacking the INI.
I'm quite interested to hear about this.
Thanx...
Cp
messiah1
Reply #58 Monday, June 16, 2008 7:49 AM
This is really more of a question for Jeff (the developer). I'm hoping it is a top secret feature addition to 2.0 but who knows.
Reply #58 Monday, June 16, 2008 7:49 AM
I guess I'm presenting this question to Messiah or WebGizmos, who I know will be straight forward.
Is there a plan to or is it even possible to add icon reflection to Object Docked icons? And if it is, what would necessitate designers such as Messiah and WebGiz to apply this effect to an already huge gallery, if it's something to be added to the current INI file?
Is there a plan to or is it even possible to add icon reflection to Object Docked icons? And if it is, what would necessitate designers such as Messiah and WebGiz to apply this effect to an already huge gallery, if it's something to be added to the current INI file?
This is really more of a question for Jeff (the developer). I'm hoping it is a top secret feature addition to 2.0 but who knows.
messiah1
Reply #59 Monday, June 16, 2008 7:52 AM
Reply #59 Monday, June 16, 2008 7:52 AM
Something I thought about this weekend as I was designing my latest set...It would be nice to be able to set the position of the running indicators independent of the position of the dock. i.e., if your dock is on top, your indicators are on top and if it's on bottom your indicators are on bottom etc. for left/right.
How about a check box or drop down to set the placement. For top/bottom docks you can set it top/bottom and left/right docks you can set it left/right.
How about a check box or drop down to set the placement. For top/bottom docks you can set it top/bottom and left/right docks you can set it left/right.
cplair
Reply #60 Monday, June 16, 2008 12:39 PM
Then here's hoping with you bro, I'd have a grand-mal seizure if they added icon reflection and the side-induced running indicators to OD!
Reply #60 Monday, June 16, 2008 12:39 PM
I'm hoping it is a top secret feature addition to 2.0
Then here's hoping with you bro, I'd have a grand-mal seizure if they added icon reflection and the side-induced running indicators to OD!
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Reply #41 Wednesday, June 11, 2008 6:22 PM
+1