WindowBlinds 6 Beta Feedback
Wednesday, August 1, 2007 by Neil Banfield | Discussion: Stardock Support General
Please post all feedback about the WindowBlinds 6 beta on this thread.
Note that the beta is for 32 bit XP and Vista systems only. Please do not post about it not working on 64 bit XP/Vista. Please continue to use WB 5.51 on those platforms.
This beta is for Object Desktop customers ONLY. Standalone WindowBlinds 5 owners will not be able to activate this build.
Please note that you must have Stardock Central 2.46 Build 154 or later to install the WindowBlinds 6 betas. If you try and use older versions, it'll eventually timeout and give you an error about an invalid URL.
If you have problems with it running at all, please uninstall WB6, reboot and then try reinstalling WB6 again.
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LittleBearJason
Reply #282 Friday, August 10, 2007 1:23 AM
Reply #282 Friday, August 10, 2007 1:23 AM
I am having no problems, but I am hoping that some kind of emulator could be written to work around the blurring /transparency issues in Vista Basic. I know it could be done if they just try hard enough 
BeLGaRaTh67
Reply #283 Friday, August 10, 2007 10:39 AM
Reply #283 Friday, August 10, 2007 10:39 AM
@phendric ... I am trying to use one of the default walls, widescreen aura or whatever its called. I have tried setting it withing WB with no luck, it defaults to the brown again on reboot.
@erk. I understand that I can just go back in and change it as you say erk. but it is a pain to do so every reboot
For now I am using another skin as Molten is too much hassle
@erk. I understand that I can just go back in and change it as you say erk. but it is a pain to do so every reboot
For now I am using another skin as Molten is too much hassle
Alternate Setting
Reply #284 Friday, August 10, 2007 11:16 AM
Reply #284 Friday, August 10, 2007 11:16 AM
Where in SS6, when exploring 'Molten', do I go to see the preview of the dragon & fire animations and see how any values are set ?
I've gone through a couple of times and must keep missing it.
I see the animation strip files dragon.tga and fire.tga are recognised/listed in the selection box (in Edit Start Menu) along with all the other folder files.
Appreciate a pointer from anyone with fresher eyes. Thanks.
I've gone through a couple of times and must keep missing it.
I see the animation strip files dragon.tga and fire.tga are recognised/listed in the selection box (in Edit Start Menu) along with all the other folder files.
Appreciate a pointer from anyone with fresher eyes. Thanks.
Cavan1
Reply #285 Friday, August 10, 2007 12:36 PM
BeLGaRaTh67, did you read my reply, #280, are you running a wide screen wall on standard monitor to have it centered, seeing background color above and below it. Molten is no more hassle than any other skin that has background color set different than what you want it to be. Open Molten in SKS and edit the background color to what you want and the issue goes away.
Reply #285 Friday, August 10, 2007 12:36 PM
@phendric ... I am trying to use one of the default walls, widescreen aura or whatever its called. I have tried setting it withing WB with no luck, it defaults to the brown again on reboot.
@erk. I understand that I can just go back in and change it as you say erk. but it is a pain to do so every reboot For now I am using another skin as Molten is too much hassle
@erk. I understand that I can just go back in and change it as you say erk. but it is a pain to do so every reboot For now I am using another skin as Molten is too much hassle
BeLGaRaTh67, did you read my reply, #280, are you running a wide screen wall on standard monitor to have it centered, seeing background color above and below it. Molten is no more hassle than any other skin that has background color set different than what you want it to be. Open Molten in SKS and edit the background color to what you want and the issue goes away.
Neil Banfield
Reply #286 Friday, August 10, 2007 2:28 PM
Reply #286 Friday, August 10, 2007 2:28 PM
Alternate Setting : SKS6 does not currently support the new start menu animations. We will be putting in support.
Lantec
Reply #287 Friday, August 10, 2007 3:40 PM
Reply #287 Friday, August 10, 2007 3:40 PM
Curious if anyone else is seeing this.....
Since the last update all I get in the way of shellstyles if the basic blue not matter whether I have the override setting checked or not. I even changed it to "always use the shellstyle defined in...." and it won't take. It's happening on both my home system and my work system.
Home.....
WindowBlinds version : WindowBlinds 6 (6.0 (beta build 21 x86))
WindowBlinds is installed correctly on this PC
WindowBlinds appears to be activated on this PC
Your machine supports per pixel borders on WindowBlinds skins.
(Plug and Play Monitor) 1 is attached to Radeon X1600 Series (Omega 3.8.291)
Wblind.dll 2007/08/07 11:43:20
Wbsrv.dll 2007/08/02 11:25:18
Wbconfig.exe 2007/08/02 11:25:47
Wbload.exe 2007/07/30 13:14:11
Wbhelp.dll 2007/07/24 10:21:07
Wbui.dll 2007/07/24 10:21:06
Tray.dll 2007/07/24 10:21:49
Edit:
After some testing.....if I load the Diamond skin it stills show basic blue, but once I reboot I get the Diamond Skin shellstyles. If I change skins I STILL get the Diamond Skin shellstyles so now I'll try a reboot to see if they change to the Mirage Shellstyles........
Edit2: All seems to have "fixed itself" after another reboot, it must be a result of installing PaintshopProXI since I did that to both computers today.
Since the last update all I get in the way of shellstyles if the basic blue not matter whether I have the override setting checked or not. I even changed it to "always use the shellstyle defined in...." and it won't take. It's happening on both my home system and my work system.
Home.....
WindowBlinds version : WindowBlinds 6 (6.0 (beta build 21 x86))
WindowBlinds is installed correctly on this PC
WindowBlinds appears to be activated on this PC
Your machine supports per pixel borders on WindowBlinds skins.
(Plug and Play Monitor) 1 is attached to Radeon X1600 Series (Omega 3.8.291)
Wblind.dll 2007/08/07 11:43:20
Wbsrv.dll 2007/08/02 11:25:18
Wbconfig.exe 2007/08/02 11:25:47
Wbload.exe 2007/07/30 13:14:11
Wbhelp.dll 2007/07/24 10:21:07
Wbui.dll 2007/07/24 10:21:06
Tray.dll 2007/07/24 10:21:49
Edit:
After some testing.....if I load the Diamond skin it stills show basic blue, but once I reboot I get the Diamond Skin shellstyles. If I change skins I STILL get the Diamond Skin shellstyles so now I'll try a reboot to see if they change to the Mirage Shellstyles........
Edit2: All seems to have "fixed itself" after another reboot, it must be a result of installing PaintshopProXI since I did that to both computers today.
Alternate Setting
Reply #288 Friday, August 10, 2007 4:36 PM
Alternate Setting : SKS6 does not currently support the new start menu animations. We will be putting in support.
appreciate speedy feedback Neil
Overall, I'm still getting used to the new layout - but first impressions are good.
Reply #288 Friday, August 10, 2007 4:36 PM
Alternate Setting : SKS6 does not currently support the new start menu animations. We will be putting in support.
appreciate speedy feedback Neil
Overall, I'm still getting used to the new layout - but first impressions are good.
Moletai
Reply #289 Friday, August 10, 2007 6:22 PM
Reply #289 Friday, August 10, 2007 6:22 PM
With the WB6 beta build 027 it is impossible to use new master skin by JJ. Ying Xaphire. After some time using it, all windows GUI crashes. 
Frogboy
Reply #290 Friday, August 10, 2007 7:53 PM
Reply #290 Friday, August 10, 2007 7:53 PM
With the WB6 beta build 027 it is impossible to use new master skin by JJ. Ying Xaphire. After some time using it, all windows GUI crashes
Could you describe the experiencw ith more detail?
Lantec
Reply #291 Friday, August 10, 2007 9:02 PM
Reply #291 Friday, August 10, 2007 9:02 PM
Found a conflict........
Microsoft Money 2005 will not open while Windowblinds 6 is loaded. You see a quick flash of a very corrupt window then it disappears and is not listed in Task manager. Unload Windowblinds and it opens just fine.
Microsoft Money 2005 will not open while Windowblinds 6 is loaded. You see a quick flash of a very corrupt window then it disappears and is not listed in Task manager. Unload Windowblinds and it opens just fine.
ShelbyGT_The_Car
Reply #292 Friday, August 10, 2007 9:47 PM
Reply #292 Friday, August 10, 2007 9:47 PM
Lantec can you go to your event viewer and get a report as to where the conflict is or how it is reporting when wb6 is running?
Thats in administrative tools...
SGT
Thats in administrative tools...
SGT
neophil78
Reply #293 Saturday, August 11, 2007 1:23 AM
Reply #293 Saturday, August 11, 2007 1:23 AM
That's not a bug but a missing feature relative to wallpapers part:
Should it be possible to add the mane of walls showing in a tooltip when pointing each of those which are in gallerys ?
Should it be possible to add the mane of walls showing in a tooltip when pointing each of those which are in gallerys ?
Moletai
Reply #294 Saturday, August 11, 2007 3:19 AM
yeah, certainly. For instance, after using Firefox browser for about half an hour it simply stops responding, and shortly almost all system (XP SP2) hangs. Viewing pictures in Windows Picture and Fax viewer strange error message "drawing..." or something like that after some time of viewing appeared and this program hanged also. Part of taskbar disappears, visual remnants of closed programs are seen on desktop and it is impossible to load any program from tray. The same or similar behavior with the end result that part of the programs stop responding repeated after several reboots. But all this only with saphire skin on wb6. All other skins are functioning very well for me.
I think my experience is similar to mentioned by some comments on saphire, namely comment no.41. WWW Link
Reply #294 Saturday, August 11, 2007 3:19 AM
With the WB6 beta build 027 it is impossible to use new master skin by JJ. Ying Xaphire. After some time using it, all windows GUI crashes
Could you describe the experiencw ith more detail?
yeah, certainly. For instance, after using Firefox browser for about half an hour it simply stops responding, and shortly almost all system (XP SP2) hangs. Viewing pictures in Windows Picture and Fax viewer strange error message "drawing..." or something like that after some time of viewing appeared and this program hanged also. Part of taskbar disappears, visual remnants of closed programs are seen on desktop and it is impossible to load any program from tray. The same or similar behavior with the end result that part of the programs stop responding repeated after several reboots. But all this only with saphire skin on wb6. All other skins are functioning very well for me.
I think my experience is similar to mentioned by some comments on saphire, namely comment no.41. WWW Link
Tsumana
Reply #295 Saturday, August 11, 2007 5:53 AM
Reply #295 Saturday, August 11, 2007 5:53 AM
The exact same thing was happening to me Moletai, an uninstall and reinstall of WB6 seems to have fixed the problem for me. I've been using Xaphire since sometime yesterday and the problem hasn't re-occurred.
Moletai
Reply #296 Saturday, August 11, 2007 8:50 AM
Reply #296 Saturday, August 11, 2007 8:50 AM
I did as Tsumana said, uninstalled and reinstalled wb6 beta. But I don't think that problems (when using Xaphire)are gone, they still persist. Especially with firefox stopping to work and crash of windows explorer thereafter.
My info, in case it is needed:
WindowBlinds version : WindowBlinds 6 (6.0 (beta build 21 x86))
WindowBlinds is installed correctly on this PC
WindowBlinds appears to be activated on this PC
Your machine supports per pixel borders on WindowBlinds skins.
(Default Monitor) 1 is attached to NVIDIA GeForce 6800
Wblind.dll 2007/08/07 11:43:20
Wbsrv.dll 2007/08/02 11:25:18
Wbconfig.exe 2007/08/02 11:25:47
Wbload.exe 2007/07/30 13:14:11
Wbhelp.dll 2007/07/24 10:21:07
Wbui.dll 2007/07/24 10:21:06
Tray.dll 2007/07/24 10:21:49
My info, in case it is needed:
WindowBlinds version : WindowBlinds 6 (6.0 (beta build 21 x86))
WindowBlinds is installed correctly on this PC
WindowBlinds appears to be activated on this PC
Your machine supports per pixel borders on WindowBlinds skins.
(Default Monitor) 1 is attached to NVIDIA GeForce 6800
Wblind.dll 2007/08/07 11:43:20
Wbsrv.dll 2007/08/02 11:25:18
Wbconfig.exe 2007/08/02 11:25:47
Wbload.exe 2007/07/30 13:14:11
Wbhelp.dll 2007/07/24 10:21:07
Wbui.dll 2007/07/24 10:21:06
Tray.dll 2007/07/24 10:21:49
Moletai
Reply #297 Saturday, August 11, 2007 9:24 AM
Screenshot of what is sometimes happening with Firefox+WB6 beta+Xaphire.
Reply #297 Saturday, August 11, 2007 9:24 AM
Screenshot of what is sometimes happening with Firefox+WB6 beta+Xaphire.
BeLGaRaTh67
Reply #298 Saturday, August 11, 2007 9:16 PM
BeLGaRaTh67, did you read my reply, #280, are you running a wide screen wall on standard monitor to have it centered, seeing background color above and below it. Molten is no more hassle than any other skin that has background color set different than what you want it to be. Open Molten in SKS and edit the background color to what you want and the issue goes away.
Sorry that does not work, I am using a WS wall on a WS monitor, it is the whole desktop that is shown in the same brown colour as the Molten skin on a reboot, the only way to get it back to the one I want as default is to change it again after rebooting, it only happens with the Molten Skin, nothing else, so as far as I am concerned it is a problem with that. I have used the Diamond and Leo ones with no problems with my default wall, just Molten as I say, I cannot make it any clearer than I have already said, it only happens with Molten
As mentioned, I like the skin, but am avoiding it until it is fixed.
Reply #298 Saturday, August 11, 2007 9:16 PM
BeLGaRaTh67, did you read my reply, #280, are you running a wide screen wall on standard monitor to have it centered, seeing background color above and below it. Molten is no more hassle than any other skin that has background color set different than what you want it to be. Open Molten in SKS and edit the background color to what you want and the issue goes away.
Sorry that does not work, I am using a WS wall on a WS monitor, it is the whole desktop that is shown in the same brown colour as the Molten skin on a reboot, the only way to get it back to the one I want as default is to change it again after rebooting, it only happens with the Molten Skin, nothing else, so as far as I am concerned it is a problem with that. I have used the Diamond and Leo ones with no problems with my default wall, just Molten as I say, I cannot make it any clearer than I have already said, it only happens with Molten
As mentioned, I like the skin, but am avoiding it until it is fixed.
ShelbyGT_The_Car
Reply #299 Saturday, August 11, 2007 10:30 PM
Reply #299 Saturday, August 11, 2007 10:30 PM
Hello everyone - maybe it's just me ... but seems I can't get the mouse over/focus color or the Hover color(wb3.x) in the programs or places list to work. Now this is strange... it will work in Vista ? But not with XP. Vista I found that you use a shade off with either places or programs and you get your hover and mouse over. Using exact colors for both and thats all you get... that one color. So tried it with XP and no results.
I think it is in WB not SKS where the problem is and gona do a roll back on my WB and see what happens.
SGT
I think it is in WB not SKS where the problem is and gona do a roll back on my WB and see what happens.
SGT
ShelbyGT_The_Car
Reply #300 Saturday, August 11, 2007 11:23 PM
Reply #300 Saturday, August 11, 2007 11:23 PM
Well no changes and it looks like I got an XP problem here and gona have a long weekend for a new install to fix this mess as usual...
Never fails - I get a bug or something from one of the servers at work on here and it kills me.
That and then I try to clean things up and ya away goes all kinds of stuff with the wash job too!
Tomorrows a long day for XP here... but it will be worth it I hope???
SGT
Never fails - I get a bug or something from one of the servers at work on here and it kills me.
That and then I try to clean things up and ya away goes all kinds of stuff with the wash job too!
Tomorrows a long day for XP here... but it will be worth it I hope???
SGT
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Reply #281 Friday, August 10, 2007 12:05 AM
What build of WB do you have installed? (see Wbconfig System Information page)
I'm using WindowBlinds 6 (6.0 (beta build 36 x86 - Vista Edition)).
Note that I was too hasty in proclaiming Photoshop CS3 crash free. It crashes too.
I think I have figured a way to make this repeat predictably.
Using filezilla select with RMB an item as if you are going to add it to the queue. Then, don't select an option, move your mouse off of the RMB window that popped up. If it doesn't crash the program then and there, it will the next time you try the same thing.
This is also repeatable in Photoshop CS3 if you hit the RMB over an image you have loaded to edit.
This is happening on an Nvidia Quadro 4000 and it has happened with 163.11 and 162.50 whql drivers. Diamond skin, vista 32.