Dumping old stuff
old windowblind stuff
Saturday, May 19, 2007 by mschleisner | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
windowblinds, some of this stuff is really old, I don't have the talent to make these but those of you that do, please give us some new stuff, over 300 is great but some are very old and not very good anymore. The new stuff is great, I personally want to thank all of you who make these, but couldn't we dump the really old stuff? Thnx, Just my opinion. Hoping to get some new stuff for my money.....
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Cavan1
Reply #2 Saturday, May 19, 2007 1:49 PM
There are 4,075 WB skins here right now.
You are listed as a current customer, which gives you, for the Stardock apps you have purchased, free unlimited downloads without having to subscribe to WC.
Reply #2 Saturday, May 19, 2007 1:49 PM
over 300 is great but some are very old and not very good anymore.
There are 4,075 WB skins here right now.
Hoping to get some new stuff for my money.....
You are listed as a current customer, which gives you, for the Stardock apps you have purchased, free unlimited downloads without having to subscribe to WC.
Vampothika
Reply #3 Saturday, May 19, 2007 6:24 PM
Reply #3 Saturday, May 19, 2007 6:24 PM
I believe skins are on wb for a reason, they are classics. You cant go past Cyclops or airframe, they are just gorgeous skins...and great to disect and learn from, then again there is a new saying that im learning as a skinner, and that is you cant please everyone. there are skins i dont like either, everyone has their own tastes. you can always download ones you like to replace ones you dont.... 
unclerob
Reply #4 Saturday, May 19, 2007 6:33 PM
Reply #4 Saturday, May 19, 2007 6:33 PM
an idea of mine (I'm sure it's quite original) would be that the really old skins could possibly be placed into a section of their own, I made the mistake of downloading & installing a wb that was quite a few years old and in hindsight I should have guessed that it wouldn't have worked in a winxp environment, after applying the skin it caused by system quite a bit of grief & errors and it took me a while to get my system functional again so that I could apply a current skin. Maybe somehow labeling the skins that were meant for a win3x/9x environment so that winxp user's wouldn't download & use them.
Lantec
Reply #5 Saturday, May 19, 2007 7:20 PM
Reply #5 Saturday, May 19, 2007 7:20 PM
I believe (as policy) it's really up to the original poster although I'm sure Stardcok could take down whatever they wish.
I've taken several of my older skins down including a couple of Windowblinds. For me it was a matter of quality. My first few attempts just weren't up to par.
Having said that, a LOT of the older stuff just doesn't fit that category. When they were posted they were "State of the Art"
For those who like to track downloads, pulling off a Windowblind can really effect their total.
I've taken several of my older skins down including a couple of Windowblinds. For me it was a matter of quality. My first few attempts just weren't up to par.
Having said that, a LOT of the older stuff just doesn't fit that category. When they were posted they were "State of the Art"
For those who like to track downloads, pulling off a Windowblind can really effect their total.
Nimbin
Reply #6 Saturday, May 19, 2007 7:57 PM
Reply #6 Saturday, May 19, 2007 7:57 PM
one thing they could do is seperate the skins and themes by year, or by windowblinds version. probably a bad idea but what the hey, i am gonna say it anyway 
DigitalCHET
Reply #7 Saturday, May 19, 2007 11:49 PM
Reply #7 Saturday, May 19, 2007 11:49 PM
Not bad idea at all, Nimbin. The galleries could definately use better sorting/search options.
As for older skins, I think they're better off being updated and added as new entries, keeping the older ones for posterity and history.
As for older skins, I think they're better off being updated and added as new entries, keeping the older ones for posterity and history.
seldomseen
Reply #8 Sunday, May 20, 2007 12:00 AM
You said it for me. Oldies but goodies. Some of them are irreplaceable. Unique. Still work on WB 5.5 I like going back to when I first found this community and running some themes just to remember what was really eye-catching and innovative way back when. Resort, rearrange, etc. No dumping.
Reply #8 Sunday, May 20, 2007 12:00 AM
As for older skins, I think they're better off being updated and added as new entries, keeping the older ones for posterity and history.
You said it for me. Oldies but goodies. Some of them are irreplaceable. Unique. Still work on WB 5.5 I like going back to when I first found this community and running some themes just to remember what was really eye-catching and innovative way back when. Resort, rearrange, etc. No dumping.
vStyler
Reply #9 Sunday, May 20, 2007 12:08 AM
Reply #9 Sunday, May 20, 2007 12:08 AM
Great idea nimbin.. I'd like to see that too.
mschleisner seems there's about 3700 you haven't tried yet by your numbers. Stardock more than likely won't be taking down old skins anytime soon as content is the catalyst around which the site revolves. New WB's are submitted almost daily..stay on page 1 and you'll never have to stress on older work.
mschleisner seems there's about 3700 you haven't tried yet by your numbers. Stardock more than likely won't be taking down old skins anytime soon as content is the catalyst around which the site revolves. New WB's are submitted almost daily..stay on page 1 and you'll never have to stress on older work.
mschleisner
Reply #10 Sunday, May 20, 2007 12:01 PM
Reply #10 Sunday, May 20, 2007 12:01 PM
I was talking about windowblinds only, there are many as most have said that don't work on windows xp and will never work on vista. Yes I do not use the ones I think are old and outdated, but just because you have boxes of cookies, they do get stale. I have been here years and I loved everything that has come out. I would like to see some of the old gone, as I said, this is no reflection on the person who created the work. It's just like old computers, eventually it just doesn't get it anymore. Cursor xp is great and has very simple and old cursors, I don't use them either. As I said, it is just (my) opinion, not something I want a war about. I just think there is so much talent out there and more that can come from asking those who know how to create more and give us new and more exciting stuff. Geez folks, don't shoot the messenger.
Cavan1
Reply #11 Sunday, May 20, 2007 12:12 PM
This may be true but there are still people out there using older Windows OSes, some still using 95. The numbers are maybe not that large for them but the older skins are needed by these users.
Reply #11 Sunday, May 20, 2007 12:12 PM
I was talking about windowblinds only,
over 300 is great
There are 4,075 WB (WindowBlinds) skins here right now.
that don't work on windows xp
This may be true but there are still people out there using older Windows OSes, some still using 95. The numbers are maybe not that large for them but the older skins are needed by these users.
Bichur
Reply #12 Sunday, May 20, 2007 12:48 PM
Reply #12 Sunday, May 20, 2007 12:48 PM
I've currently used stuff as far back as 2001 - I go back once in a while and retry them - example: Frogboy by Pixstudio - for a while, I would see the magic pink on some versions of WB, but using 5.50.023 all is good.
Cavan1
Reply #13 Sunday, May 20, 2007 1:26 PM
And that is by choice, as the name implies CursorXP is for XP only, WindowBlinds is not.
Yes there are many talented people here but to make a complete with all the bells and whistles WB can take 40 to 80 hours.
Reply #13 Sunday, May 20, 2007 1:26 PM
Cursor xp is great and has very simple and old cursors, I don't use them either.
And that is by choice, as the name implies CursorXP is for XP only, WindowBlinds is not.
I just think there is so much talent out there and more that can come from asking those who know how to create more and give us new and more exciting stuf
Yes there are many talented people here but to make a complete with all the bells and whistles WB can take 40 to 80 hours.
vStyler
Reply #14 Sunday, May 20, 2007 4:13 PM
at the VERY least.. some.. months.
Reply #14 Sunday, May 20, 2007 4:13 PM
WB can take 40 to 80 hours.
at the VERY least.. some.. months.
I.R. Brainiac
Reply #15 Sunday, May 20, 2007 5:36 PM
Reply #15 Sunday, May 20, 2007 5:36 PM
On behalf of WB skinners everywhere...I'm insulted...at the tone and intent of this post.
I could rant on but why bother...this person wouldnt understand.
I could rant on but why bother...this person wouldnt understand.
XX
Reply #16 Sunday, May 20, 2007 6:56 PM
Reply #16 Sunday, May 20, 2007 6:56 PM
Yeah, mine took many hours, even with very simple handcrafted graphics.
I remember old days of skinning when features consisted of titlebar and frame, borders, buttons, radio and check buttons. Those was so easy. Ah old days...
I remember old days of skinning when features consisted of titlebar and frame, borders, buttons, radio and check buttons. Those was so easy. Ah old days...
scorpNZ
Reply #17 Sunday, May 20, 2007 7:26 PM
Reply #17 Sunday, May 20, 2007 7:26 PM
I can think of 4 old ones off the top of my head that i use ,liquid,x-men 1.03,spider,myst i'm sure there's more that i'd like but have'nt got round to installing them as i've downloaded all wb's since the day i got objectdesktop,even ip has some choice old ones
WOM
Reply #18 Sunday, May 20, 2007 7:31 PM
Reply #18 Sunday, May 20, 2007 7:31 PM
I love the old WB's. I don't have many from the past year on my machine so I'd hate to see them be deleted. Besides, if the skinner deletes skins, they lose that download count.
skybright
Reply #19 Sunday, May 20, 2007 9:11 PM
I have several wb that are old. But they still work well on XP. One of my favorite skinners from the past is starone. She was definately a skinner a head of her time. She has a unique style and wonderful talent that cannot be denied. As well as other from the past.
Reply #19 Sunday, May 20, 2007 9:11 PM
I love the old WB's. I don't have many from the past year on my machine so I'd hate to see them be deleted
I have several wb that are old. But they still work well on XP. One of my favorite skinners from the past is starone. She was definately a skinner a head of her time. She has a unique style and wonderful talent that cannot be denied. As well as other from the past.
MySecret
Reply #20 Tuesday, May 22, 2007 7:09 AM
There are a # of golden oldies that I use as well....on XP...And remember that to new people they are not *old...had a WB made in 2001 on my machine, friend saw it & loved it & couldn't believe how it *old it was
It is a pleasure to be able to stroll through those old skins....any kind & see the original ideas & styles that were being used. I use many old skins from a variety of programs....
agreed
It's My Secret
Reply #20 Tuesday, May 22, 2007 7:09 AM
I love the old WB's. I don't have many from the past year on my machine so I'd hate to see them be deleted
There are a # of golden oldies that I use as well....on XP...And remember that to new people they are not *old...had a WB made in 2001 on my machine, friend saw it & loved it & couldn't believe how it *old it was
It is a pleasure to be able to stroll through those old skins....any kind & see the original ideas & styles that were being used. I use many old skins from a variety of programs....
I could rant on but why bother...this person wouldn't understand.
agreed
It's My Secret
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Reply #1 Saturday, May 19, 2007 1:34 PM
Instead of dumping it, why not just ignore it?