Paying for individual WB's

Wednesday, March 14, 2007 by garsgolfer | Discussion: WindowBlinds

I've been wondering about the thoughts and experiences of others regarding paying for individual WB skins. Are you finding aspects of the skins not skinning properly or as expected? And, why is there no download/purchase stats being posted per skin, as there are with all others?

Seems even the best skinners struggle with building perfect skins. The one I am using now is named "StealthOS", a great skin, and IMO by one of the best skinners, yet, the start panel text "Turn off Computer" falls off the panel, while 2 of his other skins appear as they should.

So far, only a few appear to properly skin all aspects of the applications I run; like Sean Grey's "Digital Grey."  However, that same skin becomes annoying as my mouse passes over the text on the Start-menu panel because all listings highlight. His "Chocolate", which is a great skin, however it to has problems with text falling off the start panel, and those things shouldn't happen.  Other skins fail to skin check boxes, eliminating the check box choice altogether making the skin worthless in a few applications.

Even though these problems seems sporadic per skin, I seldom find the perfectly complete skin.  I just downloaded Stardocks "Stargate SG-1" skin to find it's "Turn off Computer" is almost non-existent, I  deleted it.

No disrespect meant to hardworking skinners, cause many do a good job. But, I just won't pay for an unfinished product, no matter what it is.

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NightTrainthedark
Reply #21 Wednesday, March 14, 2007 1:50 PM
Does your PC use a undock button?
garsgolfer
Reply #22 Wednesday, March 14, 2007 1:53 PM
It AINT a Stardock blind. DOH!

And you didnt answer my question...are you on a laptop withan undock button?


I am aware it's not Stardocks, that was a typing error. And, yes- there's a undock button. I don't see what that button has to do with anything, unless there are two versions of every skin, one designed for desktops another for laptops.
ZubaZ
Reply #23 Wednesday, March 14, 2007 1:56 PM
How am I suppose to know who you are or where to post to you.
Comment on the skin itself.  Most authors follow the comments.

You started your post talking about Paid skins, then used two free skins as examples.  Ergo . . you don't know what you are talking about or you communicate poorly.

You criticised a skin when the issue is probably on your system.
Furthermore, if you can't understand what's meant by the text on the start menu being half off or almost non-existent, then there's nothing else to say.
Then please don't say anything more.

Your tone was poor but people were kind in their responses.  Your tone got worse . . .

Maybe there are *more* problems to address on your part beyond your system?   
BigDogBigFeet
Reply #24 Wednesday, March 14, 2007 1:59 PM
Oh, I think I may know what Titan19 is referring to. Sometimes I have seen where some blinds won't render the start panel correctly. The SG-1 skin doesn't have that problem on my system, usually it's the Vista clone skins that have this problem on my rig. Titan19 does the left pane of the start panel appear too large while the right pane appears to be cutoff? Could you post a screen shot of the start menu?
vStyler
Reply #25 Wednesday, March 14, 2007 2:00 PM
How am I suppose to know who you are or where to post to you.

I would check my personal page for contact info and as far as a post goes..umm how about the submission page where you downloaded the skin?

Furthermore, if you can't understand what's meant by the text on the start menu being half off or almost non-existent, then there's nothing else to say.

Theres more than one area of adjustment in the start panel, and different bugs can appear on different computers, different OS etc..

I have been made aware of one bug in Sg1 in 1500 downloads.. it was fixed immediately.

I cant begin to fix a problem ur not willing to make an effort to show me, so.. your right..nothing else to say.


Hippie
Reply #26 Wednesday, March 14, 2007 2:04 PM
I have bought a few skins that I thought were special, until I DLed them. When loaded, they weren't any thing special, so I won't buy another one. I know it invovles a lot of time and trouble, and if I could do it I would. But, Even at $4.95, it's not worth it. As a matter of fact, since I installed Vista Even with WB 5.5, they don't work right, and it's coming up time for me to renew. Can't decide if I want to. Then I think, well, They will get better. Always have. And I bought OD in 2002, and probably will stay with them. They're just some very good people on this site.
I.R. Brainiac
Reply #27 Wednesday, March 14, 2007 2:08 PM
I explained the button issue...some skins CANT accomodate a 3rd button...yes,you would have to include at least a substyle...or redesign the start menu and upload a second skin.
NightTrainthedark
Reply #28 Wednesday, March 14, 2007 2:09 PM
too slow again
NightTrainthedark
Reply #29 Wednesday, March 14, 2007 2:11 PM
Does anyone else notice that the more people quote in a thread, the longer the delay/freeze is when opening a thread?
I.R. Brainiac
Reply #30 Wednesday, March 14, 2007 2:13 PM
Which leads me to a general question about laptops...do all of them have an undock button?...I'm not a regular user of laptops so I dont see this 3rd button...I just know it exist.
I.R. Brainiac
Reply #31 Wednesday, March 14, 2007 2:14 PM
Freezing by quoting?Hmmmmmmmm...could be.
I.R. Brainiac
Reply #32 Wednesday, March 14, 2007 2:17 PM
OH,sorry I cant answer your initial question...I havnt bought any...me very poor...but judging from screenshots...I would be disappointed in some...I tend to like more graphically complex skins and most of the premiums seem to be playing it safe visually.
I.R. Brainiac
Reply #33 Wednesday, March 14, 2007 2:19 PM
I suppose a lot of skinners have never even seen an undock button.
NightTrainthedark
Reply #34 Wednesday, March 14, 2007 2:20 PM
see this 3rd button...I just know it exist.


Laptops on a network have 3 buttons.

Most laptops have a 4th button on the logoff shutdown screens for hibernation.

Some non-english systems will have more letters for log off/turn off computer and can cramp the space forcing anomolies.

Reducing the log off and turn off computer buttons to 1 pixel wide will gain you some valuable real estate. The buttons are redundant anyways as they are ......redundant.   

You can make the start panel wider if the design calls for it.
garsgolfer
Reply #35 Wednesday, March 14, 2007 2:27 PM
do all of them have an undock button?.


I have 3 in my office alone, and yes.
ZubaZ
Reply #36 Wednesday, March 14, 2007 2:38 PM
Shit!  What happened to
Furthermore, if you can't understand what's meant by the text on the start menu being half off or almost non-existent, then there's nothing else to say.


??
vStyler
Reply #37 Wednesday, March 14, 2007 2:51 PM
Basically, if all requirements were met within the design you would be severely restricted creatively in Start Panel design.
SanChonino
Reply #38 Wednesday, March 14, 2007 2:54 PM
Which leads me to a general question about laptops...do all of them have an undock button?...I'm not a regular user of laptops so I dont see this 3rd button...I just know it exist.


Mine isn't networked like these other chaps . . . so no. I have "Log off" and "Turn Off Computer".

And I don't have a "Hibernate" button, either . . . I guess I'm just maudlin like that.
vStyler
Reply #39 Wednesday, March 14, 2007 3:12 PM
I have a sneaking suspicion most skinners aren't on a network.

I would however be interested in seeing a screen of the issue.
messiah1
Reply #40 Wednesday, March 14, 2007 5:05 PM
I used StealthOS for a long, long time and never had any issues with it. I'd have to say if you're having the same problem with multiple skins from multiple authors, it's on your end.

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