Attention Mods
Wednesday, February 28, 2007 by boopish | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
Mods...I don't want to be a prude, but the ss here https://www.wincustomize.com/skins.aspx?skinid=19228&libid=13 is inappropriate for a family site as it depicts a minor in a suggestive position. It should be removed.
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vStyler
Reply #22 Thursday, March 1, 2007 10:25 AM
Reply #22 Thursday, March 1, 2007 10:25 AM
Lets just say.. I wouldnt let it on my site... thats all.
Its a bit.. in your face.
Its a bit.. in your face.
Fairyy~
Reply #23 Thursday, March 1, 2007 10:28 AM
Once again - its a matter of taste. I guess everyone Zooms in on the ass end of a person when taking a pic in a pool. I dont care if you remove it - leave it and give it a 5 star rating.
I asked about the WC Guidline rule " A Wall must be suffiently " OBSCURED "
Has that rule been tossed in the toilot ?
Reply #23 Thursday, March 1, 2007 10:28 AM
I looked at the screenshot again and I'm missing something. No nudity, no "come hither" look, nothing but a woman in a pool. Maybe I'm desensitized . . but while I see no artistic merit . . I don't see anything anything that warrents "some things should be censored for integrity's sake"
Once again - its a matter of taste. I guess everyone Zooms in on the ass end of a person when taking a pic in a pool. I dont care if you remove it - leave it and give it a 5 star rating.
I asked about the WC Guidline rule " A Wall must be suffiently " OBSCURED "
Has that rule been tossed in the toilot ?
tawoods
Reply #24 Thursday, March 1, 2007 10:31 AM
It would seem that my inital perception of the leadership of this site was highly overrated...and with that I will bid you a fond fair well.
Reply #24 Thursday, March 1, 2007 10:31 AM
desensitized . . but while I see no artistic merit . . I don't see anything anything that warrents "some things should be censored for integrity's sake"
It would seem that my inital perception of the leadership of this site was highly overrated...and with that I will bid you a fond fair well.
Lantec
Reply #25 Thursday, March 1, 2007 10:32 AM
How true.......
Reply #25 Thursday, March 1, 2007 10:32 AM
Most of us would NEVER post a real picture of ourselves with you and Skinnit around anyway- we have all seen your handiwork and his
How true.......
Fairyy~
Reply #26 Thursday, March 1, 2007 10:47 AM
Perhaps the key words highlighted in BOLD black might help...just read those words.
Reply #26 Thursday, March 1, 2007 10:47 AM
What bugs me about it, and I think the picture kind of confirms it, is that her disc site is run through www.starchild.co.jp and the name of her latest CD is Popo-Porn. Which, to my best ability to research is either Police Porn or Porn Police. Perhaps someone who knows something of the Japanese culture or language can clear that part up?
Wikipedia goes onto to say "is a popular Japanese idol and model who typically aims for the cute, innocent schoolgirl look."
From what I read on other sites, she sounds like a flake, who constantly reinvents herself to purposely appear 'odd' and/or 'quirky' to her fans, and who is willing to degrade herself for the popularity she seems to enjoy in Japan.
Wikipedia goes onto to say "is a popular Japanese idol and model who typically aims for the cute, innocent schoolgirl look."
From what I read on other sites, she sounds like a flake, who constantly reinvents herself to purposely appear 'odd' and/or 'quirky' to her fans, and who is willing to degrade herself for the popularity she seems to enjoy in Japan.
Perhaps the key words highlighted in BOLD black might help...just read those words.
_02
Reply #27 Thursday, March 1, 2007 10:49 AM
The same goes here. I would really like assistance in getting all my work removed. This site is suppose to be for everyone and if one person is offended it should be respected and removed. I will not battle with desensitized people who think just because this is an adult site anyone can post any perversion they want and call it okay. I realize I am not the most popular person here, but there are some who have enjoyed my work. You will still be able to find it and Troys work at my site clwoods Gallery WWW Link and at Skinnalicious
WWW Link So long.
Reply #27 Thursday, March 1, 2007 10:49 AM
It would seem that my initial perception of the leadership of this site was highly overrated...and with that I will bid you a fond fair well.
The same goes here. I would really like assistance in getting all my work removed. This site is suppose to be for everyone and if one person is offended it should be respected and removed. I will not battle with desensitized people who think just because this is an adult site anyone can post any perversion they want and call it okay. I realize I am not the most popular person here, but there are some who have enjoyed my work. You will still be able to find it and Troys work at my site clwoods Gallery WWW Link and at Skinnalicious
WWW Link So long.
NightTrainthedark
Reply #28 Thursday, March 1, 2007 11:01 AM
It's a valid and unarguable point that Fairry raises. A point valid enough for the shot to be removed by now without question.
Reply #28 Thursday, March 1, 2007 11:01 AM
I asked about the WC Guidline rule " A Wall must be suffiently " OBSCURED "
Has that rule been tossed in the toilot ?
Has that rule been tossed in the toilot ?
It's a valid and unarguable point that Fairry raises. A point valid enough for the shot to be removed by now without question.
Fairyy~
Reply #29 Thursday, March 1, 2007 11:01 AM
Reply #29 Thursday, March 1, 2007 11:01 AM
Well ..I don't leave that easy...but its sad that it came to 2 members leaving over this matter. I believe they are leaving more because of the lack of support they received about this issue. This was blown out of proportion and it could of simply been resolved without all the comments that were meant to make the ones offended look petty and silly.
Once again ...READ comment 26 - I see PORN - SCHOOL GIRL LOOK - DEGRADE.
So if you think this was just an innocent pic of a Japanese model - your wrong.
This could of been removed simply for not following WC Guidelines for a wall not properly obscured. But I noticed that comment was skipped over twice. Ill ask again
"I asked about the WC Guidline rule " A Wall must be suffiently " OBSCURED "
Has that rule been tossed in the toilot ? "
Once again ...READ comment 26 - I see PORN - SCHOOL GIRL LOOK - DEGRADE.
So if you think this was just an innocent pic of a Japanese model - your wrong.
This could of been removed simply for not following WC Guidelines for a wall not properly obscured. But I noticed that comment was skipped over twice. Ill ask again
"I asked about the WC Guidline rule " A Wall must be suffiently " OBSCURED "
Has that rule been tossed in the toilot ? "
vStyler
Reply #30 Thursday, March 1, 2007 11:03 AM
Reply #30 Thursday, March 1, 2007 11:03 AM
While I don't find it offensive enough to merit leaving the site It does bother me that this sort of stuff is creeping in when i go out of my way to avoid it on other sites.
And the girl looks and is intended to look 14.
And the girl looks and is intended to look 14.
Fairyy~
Reply #31 Thursday, March 1, 2007 11:11 AM
Exactly...
Absolutely...
Reply #31 Thursday, March 1, 2007 11:11 AM
It's a valid and unarguable point that Fairyy raises. A point valid enough for the shot to be removed by now without question.
Exactly...
While I don't find it offensive enough to merit leaving the site It does bother me that this sort of stuff is creeping in when i go out of my way to avoid it on other sites.
And the girl looks and is intended to look 14.
And the girl looks and is intended to look 14.
Absolutely...
boopish
Reply #32 Thursday, March 1, 2007 11:11 AM
Reply #32 Thursday, March 1, 2007 11:11 AM
I have no problems with classic pinup shots and even a tastefully done nudes..as long as the model LOOKS like an adult! This model LOOKS like she is barely into her teens...and that is the problem. As a survivor I can not, and will not, let this go unchallenged...it has nothing to do with being jealous that she looks so young...hell I was being carded well into my 30's - it's about keeping images that even HINT at exploitation of a child off a site! If this is let to go, what's next? I cannot in good faith remain loyal and supportive of a site that would let such a thing pass.
NightTrainthedark
Reply #33 Thursday, March 1, 2007 11:15 AM
Reply #33 Thursday, March 1, 2007 11:15 AM
I can get their attention.
WTF is going on in the moderator's head that approved it?
You guessed right.
WTF is going on in the moderator's head that approved it?
You guessed right.
Zoomba
Reply #34 Thursday, March 1, 2007 11:21 AM
Reply #34 Thursday, March 1, 2007 11:21 AM
There is a valid concern over the wall not being suffeciently obscured to prevent reuse. As it stands, someone could take the bulk of that image and reuse it for something else. For that reason I have contacted the author already this morning and will be temporarily moving it to his personal page only awaiting an update.
As to the content. WinCustomize is not a G-Rated site. That image would pass muster on prime time television or even in some cases in a PG movie. It's suggestive yes, but no more suggestive than what we see on TV, in movies, heck even what we hear on the radio during the morning rush hour.
We can not moderate to the most restrictive sense of propriety present in the community. I understand that you may be put off by that wall, but what about anything on the site that relates to religion or any religiously affiliated holiday? I know people who are deeply offended by Christmas imagery. Should we place a ban on Christmas walls, icons and skins because it offends an ever-growing number of people?
Like all things in life that might offend... just ignore it. Don't download it, don't comment on it. You're not being forced to view it. The things you like and enjoy might offend someone else, would you rather your own material be banned, or would you tell people to just not look at it, since it's not being forced on them?
As to the content. WinCustomize is not a G-Rated site. That image would pass muster on prime time television or even in some cases in a PG movie. It's suggestive yes, but no more suggestive than what we see on TV, in movies, heck even what we hear on the radio during the morning rush hour.
We can not moderate to the most restrictive sense of propriety present in the community. I understand that you may be put off by that wall, but what about anything on the site that relates to religion or any religiously affiliated holiday? I know people who are deeply offended by Christmas imagery. Should we place a ban on Christmas walls, icons and skins because it offends an ever-growing number of people?
Like all things in life that might offend... just ignore it. Don't download it, don't comment on it. You're not being forced to view it. The things you like and enjoy might offend someone else, would you rather your own material be banned, or would you tell people to just not look at it, since it's not being forced on them?
moonsister
Reply #35 Thursday, March 1, 2007 11:28 AM
Reply #35 Thursday, March 1, 2007 11:28 AM
Christmas doesn't hurt anyone, child pornography does. Find another comparison.
vStyler
Reply #36 Thursday, March 1, 2007 11:32 AM
Reply #36 Thursday, March 1, 2007 11:32 AM
Dont remember seeing that on the Radio 
Anyway..while Zoomba is for the most part right..and while yes diff people have diff tastes..a standard of decency is.. what it says it is.. and when you start lowering that standard you lose respect for yourselves from others whose standards differ.
There is a culture war going on in this country and If people don't stand up for what they think is right we all may as well give up right now and crawl back in our holes.
Its a fine line and I'd hate to have to draw it on a daily basis...But.. I would.. draw it somewhere.
Anyway..while Zoomba is for the most part right..and while yes diff people have diff tastes..a standard of decency is.. what it says it is.. and when you start lowering that standard you lose respect for yourselves from others whose standards differ.
There is a culture war going on in this country and If people don't stand up for what they think is right we all may as well give up right now and crawl back in our holes.
Its a fine line and I'd hate to have to draw it on a daily basis...But.. I would.. draw it somewhere.
_02
Reply #37 Thursday, March 1, 2007 11:33 AM
Reply #37 Thursday, March 1, 2007 11:33 AM
Christmas doesn't breed rapists, child molestation, and pedophilia. And as far as being against religion here, I will say there have been some strides made to be more tolerant of it. However, I submitted a screenshot called :His Gift" for Easter and it was turned down for not being covered. Funny thing is it was covered with a rainy, widget gages, and everything. It was then accepted when I changed the title of it. Too bad I already removed all my work here or I could have shown it to you.
WOM
Reply #38 Thursday, March 1, 2007 11:34 AM
Reply #38 Thursday, March 1, 2007 11:34 AM
Zoomba beat me to it. I was so concerned about the content that I forgot the obvious. 
Fairyy~
Reply #39 Thursday, March 1, 2007 11:37 AM
Im not one that likes censorship..my initial reaction was to ignore it. I saw it was just a cheap tacky wall but I didn't zoom in on it. When I saw that others felt she looked like a child..I had to agree. While we do not expect you to censor unfairly, I think there isnt a person here that would advocate child porn or exploitation. As it stands - we can only assume that her age is 24 - but that could certainly be a lie. We really have no proof either way do we ? But the facts that Po' posted was enough to warrant a closer look...Porn - Schoolgirl look - Degrade.
The Author of the Shot found it amusing that he offended anyone... Perhaps because he lives in Japan where their Culture accepts this type of Picture. But regardless of her age - her purpose is to look like a child ...so she pretty much is trying to feed the souls of the child porn crowd. Not a high standard in my view.
Reply #39 Thursday, March 1, 2007 11:37 AM
Like all things in life that might offend... just ignore it. Don't download it, don't comment on it. You're not being forced to view it. The things you like and enjoy might offend someone else, would you rather your own material be banned, or would you tell people to just not look at it, since it's not being forced on them?
Im not one that likes censorship..my initial reaction was to ignore it. I saw it was just a cheap tacky wall but I didn't zoom in on it. When I saw that others felt she looked like a child..I had to agree. While we do not expect you to censor unfairly, I think there isnt a person here that would advocate child porn or exploitation. As it stands - we can only assume that her age is 24 - but that could certainly be a lie. We really have no proof either way do we ? But the facts that Po' posted was enough to warrant a closer look...Porn - Schoolgirl look - Degrade.
The Author of the Shot found it amusing that he offended anyone... Perhaps because he lives in Japan where their Culture accepts this type of Picture. But regardless of her age - her purpose is to look like a child ...so she pretty much is trying to feed the souls of the child porn crowd. Not a high standard in my view.
Fairyy~
Reply #40 Thursday, March 1, 2007 11:46 AM
No one is blaming you We appreciate the work you all do - sometimes though in our stride to be " cutting Edge " we forget that there are people that still have high moral values. I don't go to church and I can cuss like a sailor - but I try to respect others values.
Reply #40 Thursday, March 1, 2007 11:46 AM
WOM:Zoomba beat me to it. I was so concerned about the content that I forgot the obvious.
No one is blaming you
We appreciate the work you all do - sometimes though in our stride to be " cutting Edge " we forget that there are people that still have high moral values. I don't go to church and I can cuss like a sailor - but I try to respect others values. Please login to comment and/or vote for this skin.
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Reply #21 Thursday, March 1, 2007 10:17 AM
I looked at the screenshot again and I'm missing something. No nudity, no "come hither" look, nothing but a woman in a pool. Maybe I'm desensitized . . but while I see no artistic merit . . I don't see anything anything that warrents "some things should be censored for integrity's sake"