Why use 64bit?
Friday, February 23, 2007 by Fuzzy Logic | Discussion: Windows Vista
I'm just curious to know why so many people are using 64bit Vista. Most applications are 32bit only and won't run on 64bit. Also 32bit applications with 64bit compatibility actually run slower on 64bit than they do on 32bit. Genuine 64bit applications should fly along of course, but there aren't many out there.
We had a similar choice when installing 6 new Windows 2003 servers recently. We ended up with only one 64bit server (SQL) because none of the currently available software (including Exchange 2003) would run on 64bit. All the other servers are 32bit. The future may be 64bit, but that isn't going to happen for a while.
So the question remains, why did you install 64bit Vista? I read about so many people having compatability problems with 64bit just makes me wonder 
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Nimbin
Reply #42 Wednesday, April 11, 2007 6:43 PM
Reply #42 Wednesday, April 11, 2007 6:43 PM
i run an AMD 64 3000+ 2.0ghz and win XP 64 bit and hhave come across no compatability issues (yet)
i cant wait for companies to bring out native 64 bit software then i can make full use of the 64 bits in my cpu
i cant wait for companies to bring out native 64 bit software then i can make full use of the 64 bits in my cpu
Hippie
Reply #43 Wednesday, April 11, 2007 8:22 PM
Reply #43 Wednesday, April 11, 2007 8:22 PM
Everybody tries to make everything so difficult, when it is so easy. The people that make computers want money. Therefore every 3 or so years, you have to have a new computer. It's like gas. It is'nt that it cost more, it's the fact that summer is coming up and they know they can get whatever they want. So many people have said "Money Changes Everything" "Money" so it's quite simple. MONEY. I've got a eMachine. Last computer I will ever buy. Been doing this for 30 some years, and all it is, is upgrade, upgrade, upgrade. $5,000 for a computer to play games. Oh yea, I'm gonna be all over that. As long as I have strings on my guitar, and like the song say's " I just thank the Lord for hands to play this piece of wood and steel" i'm happy. Peace. Keep up the good reason's to spend a few thousand dollars.
whatwhere
Reply #44 Monday, April 23, 2007 8:12 PM
Reply #44 Monday, April 23, 2007 8:12 PM
i got the 64 bit version because it has greater coding and a greater architecture and is more far more superior and stable then the 32 bit versions, with the 64 bit hardware the OS is (to me it is) a lot faster...so far i have yet to get any BSOD's with vista x64 compared to a lot of the BSOD's i would get in XP pro (32 bit)when playing games like DooM 3,quake IV and HL2 ETC..plus not to mention being that 64 bit is alot more superior and stable then that of 32 bit eventually in the next 2 to 5 years, 64 bit will push out 32 bit all together
John_Is_Cool
Reply #45 Sunday, October 28, 2007 9:14 PM
Reply #45 Sunday, October 28, 2007 9:14 PM
Why why why!!!!
Well let's start off
ALL programs are compatible with 64 bit OS
Because
If you go to
C:\Users\USER\
There is
Program Files
And
Program files (x86)
Just in case it's not compatible with 64 bit version
And, it's better
It process double the bits of data at one time
So yeah
thats why
Well let's start off
ALL programs are compatible with 64 bit OS
Because
If you go to
C:\Users\USER\
There is
Program Files
And
Program files (x86)
Just in case it's not compatible with 64 bit version
And, it's better
It process double the bits of data at one time
So yeah
thats why
kona0197
Reply #46 Monday, October 29, 2007 3:39 AM
I'm rolling my eyes...
Hippie I like the points you make. You are so right. It's all about money. This Dell I own has been around for awhile as it still has a Windows 98 SE COA on it. It has a Celeron 1 Gig CPU and 256 megs of memory and I don't have any problems using XP nor Fedora 7. No bottlenecks at all. They want you to buy a new PC because like everything else it's all about money.
Reply #46 Monday, October 29, 2007 3:39 AM
Windows Vista is the BEST OS ever!
I'm rolling my eyes...
Therefore every 3 or so years, you have to have a new computer.
Hippie I like the points you make. You are so right. It's all about money. This Dell I own has been around for awhile as it still has a Windows 98 SE COA on it. It has a Celeron 1 Gig CPU and 256 megs of memory and I don't have any problems using XP nor Fedora 7. No bottlenecks at all. They want you to buy a new PC because like everything else it's all about money.
Hawkeye666
Reply #47 Monday, October 29, 2007 5:25 AM
Reply #47 Monday, October 29, 2007 5:25 AM
Anyone out there trying to dual boot Vista 23 and 64 on the same partition? Or is that not possible? Just wondering because I have a Core 2 Duo and am currently running Vista 32 but was thingking about trying Vista 64 as well. I know you cannot upgrade 32 to 64 but could I force Vista 64 into a different folder and not trash teh Vista 32 install?
killajosh
Reply #48 Monday, October 29, 2007 5:52 AM
I'm not sure I'm that desperate for speed......
Reply #48 Monday, October 29, 2007 5:52 AM
If you REALLY want speed, just install windows 95 on your current computer.
I'm not sure I'm that desperate for speed......
killajosh
Reply #49 Monday, October 29, 2007 5:55 AM
*puke*
Reply #49 Monday, October 29, 2007 5:55 AM
Windows Vista is the BEST OS ever!
I am using it for 2 weeks now and I find only "wow" options
There are no problems at all for me!
I am using it for 2 weeks now and I find only "wow" options
There are no problems at all for me!
*puke*
ShelbyGT_The_Car
Reply #50 Monday, October 29, 2007 7:00 AM
I was going to add Vista Ultimate 64 to this one here soon. But changed my mind and will be building a new machine to go here with my others. That will make 4 computers here on this desktop then. Vista Ultimate 32 bit, 64 bit, XP Pro and Server 2003. Plus if Vista ever works with the new server 2008 when it is finally released. I'll be upgrading to that also and getting rid of my server 2003.
You are completely right Hippie~! They want your money first up. But I want their software and programs no matter what it cost. To make money now days - you must stay in the game. Sure it is a money game and everyone plays it. But I have to stay on top of that to be part of that ever so quickly moving game to win. There are always problems and people with the same. The real deal is we all have to find a place to work those things out. Just to get what we want. Otherwise you are just what you are and where you are in the fast moving world of technology.
There are some real good reasons to move over to 64 bit. But with the way things are for systems running such. Are you happy with it? Good then we should be happy for you and hope that everyone else using 64 bit is as patient as you are. Thus problems will in time be worked out and everyone will get exactly what they paid for~! MAYBE?
SGT
Reply #50 Monday, October 29, 2007 7:00 AM
I would not run Vista 64-bit yet. I know of far too many programs and drivers that don't support it yet.
When it gets better supported, I would use it because it can address more memory.
When it gets better supported, I would use it because it can address more memory.
I was going to add Vista Ultimate 64 to this one here soon. But changed my mind and will be building a new machine to go here with my others. That will make 4 computers here on this desktop then. Vista Ultimate 32 bit, 64 bit, XP Pro and Server 2003. Plus if Vista ever works with the new server 2008 when it is finally released. I'll be upgrading to that also and getting rid of my server 2003.
Everybody tries to make everything so difficult, when it is so easy. The people that make computers want money. Therefore every 3 or so years, you have to have a new computer. It's like gas. It is'nt that it cost more, it's the fact that summer is coming up and they know they can get whatever they want. So many people have said "Money Changes Everything" "Money" so it's quite simple.
You are completely right Hippie~! They want your money first up. But I want their software and programs no matter what it cost. To make money now days - you must stay in the game. Sure it is a money game and everyone plays it. But I have to stay on top of that to be part of that ever so quickly moving game to win. There are always problems and people with the same. The real deal is we all have to find a place to work those things out. Just to get what we want. Otherwise you are just what you are and where you are in the fast moving world of technology.
There are some real good reasons to move over to 64 bit. But with the way things are for systems running such. Are you happy with it? Good then we should be happy for you and hope that everyone else using 64 bit is as patient as you are. Thus problems will in time be worked out and everyone will get exactly what they paid for~! MAYBE?
SGT
Phoon
Reply #51 Monday, October 29, 2007 7:25 AM
Reply #51 Monday, October 29, 2007 7:25 AM
I run XPx64 on my work system for the simple fact that I have 4Gb RAM and x32 anything will not recognize all of it. I do quite a bit with VMWare Workstation and I need that extra RAM.
At home, I also have 4GB RAM, but am running Vista Ultimate 32 bit. As soon as I manage to put World of Warcraft aside I will most likely upgrade to XPx64 as Vista just offers nothing at all for me.... (a topic for any number of other threads)
At home, I also have 4GB RAM, but am running Vista Ultimate 32 bit. As soon as I manage to put World of Warcraft aside I will most likely upgrade to XPx64 as Vista just offers nothing at all for me.... (a topic for any number of other threads)
Fuzzy Logic
Reply #52 Monday, October 29, 2007 7:38 AM
Reply #52 Monday, October 29, 2007 7:38 AM
Even eight months on from the original post (did anyone look at the date?) the points are still valid. There are few 64bit apps around and most 32bit apps don't run as fast on a 64bit O/S as they do on a 32bit O/S. Quite a few don't work at all (see the meny posts here about 64bit compatibility).
64bit is not ready for prime time yet and developers just haven't the resources to pour into it
Yarlen
Reply #53 Monday, October 29, 2007 8:00 AM
Reply #53 Monday, October 29, 2007 8:00 AM
I'm using Vista 64-bit on my home PC and haven't run into any trouble at all. Every app/game I've wanted to run on it has without trouble. Hardware's been a bit more problematic, but only for wireless networking adapters. Seems no company wants to write a 64-bit wireless driver, but luckily some intrepid gamer did and posted it online for the rest of us. 
Astyanax
Reply #54 Monday, October 29, 2007 8:22 AM
Reply #54 Monday, October 29, 2007 8:22 AM
I use 64 bit because I have 4 gigs of ram. When I use 32 bit the OS see's 3.5 gigs which I can deal with, but I recently found out 1.5 gigs was being relocated elsewhere and games where only seeing 2 gigs of ram. I could deal with 512mb not showing up but 2 gigs not being used in a game? No thanks.
Phoon
Reply #55 Monday, October 29, 2007 8:23 AM
Fuzzy,
I have yet to see a single instance of that happen to me on XPx64. It runs like a champ. What is the source of that statement?
Reply #55 Monday, October 29, 2007 8:23 AM
most 32bit apps don't run as fast on a 64bit O/S as they do on a 32bit O/S.
Fuzzy,
I have yet to see a single instance of that happen to me on XPx64. It runs like a champ. What is the source of that statement?
Astyanax
Reply #56 Monday, October 29, 2007 8:25 AM
Reply #56 Monday, October 29, 2007 8:25 AM
Yeah.. I run 32 bit apps just as fast as they do in the x86 OS, that statement is..... false.....
maxcue
Reply #57 Monday, November 26, 2007 11:40 PM
Reply #57 Monday, November 26, 2007 11:40 PM
Because Vista 32-bit is limited to 2 GB of RAM while 64-bit can address all of 4 GB (maybe more, I'm not sure). On my low-end dual core system, I often see more than 60% memory useage when I have lots of programs running. It's gone as high as 78% I think.
Leauki
Reply #58 Tuesday, November 27, 2007 4:41 AM
At one point of time I made the mistake of not buying a 32 bit processor, but choose for the "faster "16 bits. That was, until the 32 bit applications began to pop up. Especially when playing games, it was like watching a slideshow. Being a student at the time, I was stuck.
When was that? That could only have been Intel 286 vs Intel 386. But I was not aware that there was a time when a 286 was _faster_ than a 386 (which could also be used a s 16 bit CPU of course).
Which games would run in both 16 and 32 bit mode?
Reply #58 Tuesday, November 27, 2007 4:41 AM
At one point of time I made the mistake of not buying a 32 bit processor, but choose for the "faster "16 bits. That was, until the 32 bit applications began to pop up. Especially when playing games, it was like watching a slideshow. Being a student at the time, I was stuck.
When was that? That could only have been Intel 286 vs Intel 386. But I was not aware that there was a time when a 286 was _faster_ than a 386 (which could also be used a s 16 bit CPU of course).
Which games would run in both 16 and 32 bit mode?
Leauki
Reply #59 Tuesday, November 27, 2007 4:42 AM
Reply #59 Tuesday, November 27, 2007 4:42 AM
I have two 64 Bit Macs.
And although the operating system is 32 Bit, they can both run 64 Bit applications.
I don't have a single one of those.
And although the operating system is 32 Bit, they can both run 64 Bit applications.
I don't have a single one of those.
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Reply #41 Wednesday, April 11, 2007 6:10 PM