How Stardock failed the skinning community in 2006

A look back at what we didn't do and what we need to do

Friday, December 22, 2006 by Frogboy | Discussion: WinCustomize News

WinCustomize.com is a website owned by Stardock. It was founded back in 2001 when the dot-com collapse took out most of the skin sites.  Stardock wanted to ensure that there was a stable home for people who wanted to create cool stuff to enhanced their Windows experience.

While 2006 was Stardock's best year from a traditional success point of view (doubled in size, more than doubled in revenue, helped produce stuff for Microsoft on Windows Vista, building partnerships with OEMs, and the game's division made one of the top PC games of last year), I believe Stardock failed the skinning community. It failed it utterly.

This is going to be long but I will try to identify the areas where Stardock blew it and what I think it needs to "make good".

The Failures

  • Awful documentation
  • Lack of support for skinners
  • Lack of community support
  • Lack of leadership

Awful Documentation

As bad as the documentation for making cool stuff for Stardock's apps appears, it's actually far far worse. And if you think it's really really bad, trust me, it's even worse than that.  It's not that we don't try. The problem is usually the only people who are good enough to make the documentation are the actual development teams who tend not to be very good at writing documentation. Ever looked at the actual text inside a WindowBlinds .UIS file?

Part of the problem stems from what Stardock really is as compared to "normal" companies.  We're a bunch of software developers.  Historically, almost pure coders.  Until 2002, Stardock had one artist in the entire company and he was assigned to do our games. In 2003, we brought in a second artist (also to work on games). That's insane.  But it didn't seem so.  Not to us anyway.

We've always been a tech company. We created technology for the sake of creating technology.  The fancy term for that these days are "thought leaders". That is, we think of stuff before other and try to crank it out. Those familiar with the misadventures of "TextBanners.net" may recall that we came up with text ads first. Yay. Neat technology but of course, Google owns that.  We came up with full GUI skinning. First on OS/2 back in the early 90s and then on Windows. And we even had user-created mini applications created via JavaScript back in 2000 (DesktopX).  But so what?

Without good documentation, tutorials, step by step guides, what is the point?  With WindowBlinds, we got lucky. So compelling was that program that users were willing to figure out the arcane format.  How arcane? This is from a WindowBlinds skin:

[Personality]
TextShiftNoIcon=-2
TextRightClipNoIcon=84
UsesTran=1
BUTTONCOUNT=26
TextAlignment=0
TextShift=-2
TextShiftVert=-3
TextRightClip=89
TextOnBottom=0
Menubar=YellowTab\YellowTabMainMenuBarImage.bmp
Top=YellowTab\YellowTabWindowFrameTopUis2.bmp
Left=YellowTab\YellowTabWindowFrameLeftUis2.bmp
Right=YellowTab\YellowTabWindowFrameRightUis2.bmp
Bottom=YellowTab\YellowTabWindowFrameBottomUis2.bmp
TopTopHeight=23
TopBotHeight=48
LeftTopHeight=37
LeftBotHeight=9
RightTopHeight=26
RightBotHeight=9
BottomTopHeight=2
BottomBotHeight=2

This isn't a joke. That's what the WindowBlinds "language" looks like underneath SkinStudio. My favorite is the BottomTopHeight line. But like I said, it was compelling enough that people were willing to reverse-engineer it to make cool stuff.

Our documentation elsewhere has been much more lacking. We put out documentation but it's pretty awful. Probably the best documentation we have is for DesktopX. And it's not anything I'd consider competitive in quality to Yahoo Widgets's 308 page developer manual.  In fact, compare the DesktopX page to the Yahoo Widgets page

The problem at Stardock is myopia. I'm not a politically correct type of guy as many of you know but I say without ego being involved that DesktopX is far far superior to Yahoo Widgets or any of the other platforms from a technological point of view. In capability (on Windows) is a complete superset and then some.  As technologists, we simply assumed that was enough. Build a better mousetrap, etc.  But people won't use the "Better" mousetrap if it requires a PhD. to manufacture.

Let me ask you this -- Where is a modern WindowBlinds tutorial? Let's say I want to create a WindowBlinds 5 skin. How do I do it? Where's the nice friendly example that walks me through it?  Heck, the user guide that's on WindowBlinds.net is awful and the only reason it's not worse is that I went and edited what was originally put up there (complete with Times Roman font and MS Word artifacts).

In the beginning, when Stardock was smaller and the community smaller, much of these problems could be masked because me or one of the other developers at Stardock could personally answer questions on a forum.  But as Stardock has grown and we've gotten a lot busier, these glaring holes in our documentation became critical.  The WindowBlinds skinning guide that is on the page is from 2002. I kid you not. FOUR YEARS AGO!  The only thing that saves WindowBlinds skinning remotely is that SkinStudio, while not an easy to use application, is pretty decent. But it's not enough and the learning curve has only gotten worse.

Lack of Support for Skinners

You'd think the terrible documentation situation would be enough to cover the lack of support for skinners. But no, it's worse than that. Even setting aside the documentation, lack of organized tutorials, lack of step-by-step guides, etc. there's the fact that Stardock should have someone who is dedicated to doing nothing else but helping people become skinners.

Think about it. Stardock benefits from people making skins and themes right? Shouldn't it have a dedicated [email protected] type email address? It doesn't. Why not? We should. Heck, we wouldn't even need a full-time person. Just someone to help point people to tutorials (that presumably would exist), answer questions, give advice, etc. 

Instead, we leave people to the tender mercies of the forums (which I'll get to next).

Stardock doesn't even put out hardly any good example content any more (that it doesn't charge for! ) for people to learn from.  Stardock released one ObjectBar theme into the ObjectBar 2 gallery.  When was the last time Stardock released some new DesktopX gadgets, themes, etc?  How about some new ObjectDock samples?  ObjectDock 1.5 supports .dockzips. Do you see any in the gallery? I don't. We released nothing that uses it.

 

Lack of Community Support

Being good in the community was something we used to be great at. Sure, there were always the perpetual "free beer" people who objected to our existence (i.e. people who didn't like the idea of paying for software but themselves didn't write any software or make skins or anything) but overall, we were much more interactive.

Now, on the plus side, the # of "Frogboy is evil" posts we get in various places has declined. But I think, as a community, we were better off with some of that when Stardock people were more interactive. And, more importantly, setting an example.

The WinCustomize forums largely disgust me. Sorry but it needs to be said. WinCustomize's forums wreak of elitism and intolerance. Why are the forums not as busy as a site that gets millions of visitor should be? Because people come on, ask a question, make a mild criticism and then get creamed by old guard people who wish "newbies" would go away. One of the reasons why we really got behind WinCustomize.com in a big way after it was launched was because we were so pissed off at some of the elitism we saw elsewhere (I'm sure some of you know what I'm talking about).  But while many of us old guys have been busy coding new stuff, the forums have become an increasingly hostile place.

And when they're not hostile, they're sterile and impersonal. I'd as much hang out on the WC forums as I'd hang out on the forums for my TV manufacturer.  Only because of the wondrous loyalty of many good-hearted folks are our forums even remotely capable of being rehabilitated.

Moreover, Stardock should have a community manager. Could even be the same guy who's helping skinners. Someone who's helping out on other sites. WinCustomize isn't the only skin site. What about SkinBase? They deserve more support from Stardock than they get.  Or tons of newer customization community sites too that I'm not even hanging out on.

Again, in the old days, Stardock's lack of infrastructure was masked.  I would get an email from someone ([email protected]) and quickly answer it.  But now, I get thousands of email a day. Hundreds of which request a response. As a result, I don't even see much of the email I get.  Realistically, I should ask someone to look through my email every day and flag anything that needs urgent attention.

 

Lack of leadership

We should be better at setting an example for how things should be done.  Stardock people should be in the forums. Stardock people should be making skins and releasing them. Should be making tutorials. Should be writing documentation. Should be answering questions. Should be commenting on skins. Should be hosting IRC chats. Should be making video demos. And so on and so on.  But we're not.

And so things tend to go to whomever is the loudest or has the deepest pockets.  I mean do skinners really envision a gadget future in which they're mucking with DHTML and Javascript to create a fixed size gadget for the Windows Vista Sidebar? Does that sound cool?  But what's the alternative? Making a PNG file that's tied up with some Javascript for a different multi-billion dollar company?

I've seen people on-line refer to us as "Those wizards at Stardock will think of something cool..."  Which is a very high complement. But if we want to be the thought leaders then we better bloody get back to leading on stuff.

Because I don't know about you guys but if my "skinning" options are either making another glass skin for the OS, making a weather gadget/widget for whatever or sitting it out, then forget it.

What needs to be done

It's easy for me to sit here and rip Stardock a new one. It's my company after all. Talk is cheap. What is Stardock going to actually do about this? And by do I mean realistically. Because if you read through my litany of complaints, the "solution" seems obvious -- in a perfect world. But it's not a perfect world.  We live in a world where I can't even hire a decent QA (Quality Assurance) person. We get people in for interviews who haven't even been to our webpage (first rule of thumb when interviewing for a job -- know something about the product or service that you are interested in being involved with).

Here are the things I think Stardock must do in 2007:

  • Make is easier to create stuff for our software
  • Organize support for skinners
  • Get more involved in the community
  • Lead by example

Make it easier...

Updating documentation is an obvious thing that needs to be done.  But it needs to go beyond that.  Stardock needs to develop visually easy to understand tutorials that walk a user through how to create something.

It also needs to update its software (particularly SkinStudio) in such a way to make it easier to create skins.  More specifically, there should be beginner, intermediate, and advanced ways to create stuff both from a tools point of view and a tutorial/documentation point of view.

It should be consistent across the board. Everywhere on all Stardock's products there should be guides focused on beginners, intermediate, and advanced users.

Organize Support for Skinners

Stardock should create an off-shoot of the next WinCustomize.com (like skinners.wincustomize.com) that is dedicated purely to learning the art of skinning. Everything should show up there and it should be reasonably well organized.

Moreover, Stardock should have a person who is officially responsible for helping people get into this. Have a question on how to create an alpha blended title bar for WindowBlinds?  Need help creating an animated wallpaper (well, not yet but soon...), How do I make a new boot screen for Windows Vista? How do I make a docklet for ObjectDock? And so on.

Part of this also comes in the form of trying to support other people's standards.  For example, DesktopX 3.5 will export content to the Windows Sidebar. So people who don't think it particularly joyful to muck around with DHTML and Javascript can instead use a proven environment with updated documentation and tutorials to create new stuff.

But more to the point, someone at Stardock should always be on-hand to help out on this. It should be someone specific too. Not a "skinner support department" but literally someone who is part of the community that works at Stardock that you know and feel you can talk to individually.

Get more involved in the community

This is like the above example but it has more to do with non-skinners.  Stardock needs to be more involved on a day to day basis in the community. That means hanging out on forums.  I recognize that the days of me participating in some lengthy discussion on Neowin.net or deviantART or Customize.org are long gone. There's just not the time anymore.  But someone needs to be doing it. 

We're working on that already.  IslandDog is working on this already and I imagine you'll be seeing him in a lot of other areas as we develop this new strategy.

But there's going to be some pain on WinCustomize 2007.  We're going to bring down the hammer on elitism. Any user who comes across as a bully or "anti-newbie" won't be welcome.  WinCustomize.com's forums should be thought of as a lounge to hang out with friends. The forums will be modified to support a more "community" like atmosphere.

People email me and I just don't see the emails -- literally. One user on a blog said that "Stardock's success has gone to Brad's head".  My egomania aside, the reason I don't answer emails isn't that I don't care about folks anymore but rather a simple matter of logistics. Heck, I missed Microsoft's invitation to go to CES (luckily I found out via other channels).  I just don't see the emails. Most of my time is spent doing other things. I'm actually better known in the game industry these days than in the skinning world.

But it is still the company's responsibility to replace my presence with someone else's. Otherwise, Stardock might as well just be yet another Internet business out there to squeeze money from people. People who know us know that we're in this because it's fun to do.  But to a newcomer, if we don't behave any differently than any other "business" why should we expect to be seen as any different?

So we absolutely have to rectify that in a big way.

Lead by example

Picture this: The year is 2001. DesktopX objects are starting to become popular. WindowBlinds vs. msstyles have heated up. And the sky seems unlimited in terms of new cool stuff from not just Stardock but shareware and freeware people from around the world. Great eh?

But then the ghost of Christmas future shows up and tells you that by the end of 2006 that widgets have become various ways to skin clocks, weather readers and RSS feeds (there's nothing wrong with that but then a specialized app could/should have been made for those 3 things that is MUCH easier to create skins for and that skins could be shared). And Hoverdesk and Litestep were either dead or on life support and that the ObjectBar 2 gallery had one theme in it.  Who would have believed it?

Without leadership, you have inertia.

I wrote recently how the most damaging thing to skinning has been the length of time it took Microsoft to do Windows Vista.  This is true. That is, one can legitimately argue that the skinning community shouldn't expect Stardock to come up with all the new stuff. But on the other hand, if Stardock wants to be perceived as a "leader" in this growing trend, it needs to do stuff.

That means:

  1. Create state of the art content to give away to show what is possible.
  2. Show, in as many ways and places as possible, how that state of the art stuff was created
  3. Find new and cool things for people to do on their computers
  4. Create programs and tools (and make as many of them free as possible) to do those cool things.
  5. Present what you do with respect to others. Skinning should be fun. Skinning is fun.
  6. Interact with skinners and help them proactively.

To do these things, we are trying to build up the manpower to do this.  It has been slow going though.  The problems described in this article are things we've seen and been aware of. But solving them means bringing on talented people to help us. And that has been a real challenge. We want to hire people. But the # of people who can really do the job is amazingly small.

Conclusions

So there you have it. How Stardock failed the skinning community in 2006. I hope I do not have to write something similar next year.  The pieces are starting to come together now. But we have a lot of work ahead of ourselves. 

It mostly boils down to too much work for too few people. We've got projects going on with major PC OEMs, Microsoft, Take 2, and beyond which, for a company of around 50 people total is just immense. Especially when the ones who have traditionally "done" the stuff that made Stardock what it is today are now stretched between so many things.  But that's our problem and it is something we have to resolve.

I would appreciate any comments, suggestions, criticism you have to offer. There's a LOT to look forward to next year. And this year has been a great year. But it was definitely not a shining beacon for Stardock's support of the skinning community.  We'll do better.

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c242
Reply #141 Monday, December 25, 2006 5:41 PM
For me I never got the sense of having ObjectBar AND DesktopX. Those two could easily bound together with 'just' adding some bar functionality to DesktopX IMHO (with the development GUI of DX of course, as I never got into the one of OB).
WebGizmos
Reply #142 Monday, December 25, 2006 8:45 PM
Azdude...I check the ObjectDock support forum and the others just about everyday...if you have any question post them there and you will get answers either from myself or others that check the forums.
Digital3000
Reply #143 Tuesday, December 26, 2006 1:15 PM
I think the skinning community is stuck in the "Vista" rut. When the OS screenshots started popping up online last year, boom there was skin after skin and there still is to this day. Now granted I've used some of them and heck even the new Wincustomize Select Suite is loosely based off "Vista." Personally I'd like to see take-off's of a design, not a full blown ripoff.

People mention the forums are a mess, yes I agree. I use to visit them daily and read posts but in this past year they've been filled with rude comments, sloppy explanations and above all else personal attacks toward the software that Stardock releases. Not everything works perfectly, yet people want it to. How can Stardock make better programs with comments like "This Program Sucks!" There's no real information there except someone having a bad time using a program.

A lot of past skinners have gone away for unknown reasons as well. Now I don't need to know why someone left the community, we all have lives outside the "Internet." (At least some do, ha!) But I think it's time to bring back some people, Pixtudio released some insane skins just a few years back. I know they still release material under their own personal accounts, but how about spicing things up. Have a competition, do something exciting. Make a poll or take write-in's, have a list of 12 or 24 skinners from all over. Have the community vote on who they'd like to see work together on a skin. Then stick the 2 people together and have them make something insane for everyone. It would not only garner attention from the fans here at Wincustomize but fans on other computer/technology websites around the net.

I think the "fun" was lost in translation in 2006. Everything started to come together toward the end where they listened to fans and more suite's were being released. Keep doing that but start sticking some "fun fun fun" back into the mix. Release some free items like suites made by some of the best skinners, help push the market. Also I've noticed people still complaining about "I have an Object Desktop subscription and I still have to pay 7.95/8.95 for a premium suite, what a ripoff!" I really don't have that big of an issue with that myself but I do hear what you people are saying. But what about the people who dished out for the Wincustomize subscription as well, they don't see a discount unless they have Object Desktop. My feeling on that is they are the one's who should receive a bigger discount after all they are going above and beyond to keep this site going. Object Desktop owners receive a dollar off an item usually, but if you have both subscriptions then how about receiving more of a discount? Maybe 1.50 off (total combined), sure it isn't much more of a discount but it is just one more thing that makes having both subscriptions worth while.

Maybe it's just me, but I want to see more skins. But skins for any program, whatever someone makes just get it out here. If you see a skin made by someone who only works with the Microsoft Theme's side, see if they will let you help them port their material to Windowblinds. Seriously, an email sometimes is all it takes for someone to stop what they are doing and truly think "Wow! Someone likes my work." I receive thousands of emails daily from fans of my music website. Why? Because they enjoy what I do and in return that drives me to continue to push forward. There's always bad eggs but the good always out weigh all.

I for one will be releasing a few graphic designs soon just because I feel it is time to get back into the swing of things. I am still confused on how to make a Windowblinds skin so I'll be focusing more on the login, bootscreens & cursors aspect. I've been designing my own graphics for years so I don't mind sharing when I have time.

Hopefully others will follow suit, but I certainly do not blame Stardock for the letdown in '06. I put blame on the community, we can all make things better by giving feedback. Besides my own personal skins I'll be active in the forums as well. I've loved these programs since the first time I've used them and I'll continue to use them.

To end my little article here, I'd like to close with what I'd like to see as far as skins go. When I look at a skin I want something easy on the eyes. Something that looks professional and can be used daily. Some skins I've seen this year are just not practical. Sure they nail down the "Fun" factor as I always look for, but they miss the overall daily use enjoyment. Not to mention I think the whole "Square" window thing is over and done with. More people need to move onto the rounded edges or at least soften the window's edge. Think new, come up with a neat idea and get in touch with a one of the better skinners. Don't do it for "I want money, I want recognition" do it because you want to make this community better. This is suppose to be fun to do, don't let the "Fun" go down the drain.

I don't have all the answers, nor does the next person in line but as a group I think we can hash out some pretty great ideas. Here's to 2007!

Of course, that is just my take on it...

Keep On Rockin'...
Morpheous416
Reply #144 Tuesday, December 26, 2006 3:03 PM
To not put too fine a point on things, the entire community knows by now that Brad and I don't typically see eye to eye on a vast source of subjects!

However, I do agree with the viewpoints he has stated about not only the community as a whole, but from a business perspective. Having been a quality manager for a very large company, I know first hand the requirements needed to maintain equality, competitiveness and most importantly, costumer satisfaction. The costumer pays the bills, pushes technology forward...and should always be the primary concern by/for any company regardless of the product or how it's produced. However, do keep in mind that the customer "isn't always right"!

I also have quite a bit of experience when it comes to quality standards, most in the biz world would know this as ISO-9000. Very clear, very straight forward and simple documentation of your product, how it's used and what's expected from the final outcome. Not a difficult standard for any company to put to use.

Now - using WindowBlinds as a skinning medium, shouldn't be confused with the "ease of creating skins"...or be told to new comers that they should just do their homework from the skinning community's history. There's a ton of work to do just to get to the point of installing SkinStudio before you even begin the work of compiling the skin. What about using Corel? Adobe? Paint.Net? Bryce? or any of the other easy to use, but vastly complex graphics programs that are not only pricey to begin with, but have features in them have yet to be explored or exploited. Just in the last year alone we have seen just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to designing the graphics that WB can support for skins. This year's GUI Championships have shown that new ideas and more complex themes are on their way out...and I can tell you from some of the newer ideas, that these new themes are intense! The GUI Champs have not only shown skinners and fans what can be done...but has sparked newer creativity just by someone seeing "oh WOW!! I didn't know you could do that!", ushering in the era of pushing WB to the outer envelope.

There is hope on the horizon for the skinning community. I'd be willing to help address any quality issues if necessary, as well as help anyone understand ISO-9000 standards for releasing a quality product.
Frogboy
Reply #145 Tuesday, December 26, 2006 4:53 PM

Thanks for the feedback.  There are some interesting points made in some of the recent comments.

With regards to some of the things Vagabundus writes, it is never a good idea to make too many assumptions of the internal running of a company you aren't familiar with.  The success of Stardock is not due to any single individual but to a whole team.

The comment that particularly struck me was the one that suggested that Stardock should (but currently can't) function without me personally.  I don't think that is the case (at least for the short-term).  But more to the point, one shouldn't put the entire future of "skinning" into the hands of one company or person. 

Ultimately, what I see Stardock needing to do is foster a sense of community that continues to grow independently of Stardock.  I saw earlier that Jeff from Skins Factory lamented that Stardock Design was "competing" with The Skins Factory.  I don't see that at all.  What our community needs is a dozen Skin Factories and Stardock Designs. It needs not just a Stardock but a dozen such companies doing these kinds of things.    Some of the best days of innovation were when there were competing interests guiding it.  Mian and Toasty and Thematic and Thibaud and so forth.

What we don't want to have happen is for the skinning community to end up as being dependent on any single entity. 

What my post talked about is how Stardock failed in doing its part to help the community last year.  Last year, Stardock focused on being a business and growing as a business. To that end, it succeeded well.  But this next year, it needs to do more to help the skinning community grow. Because if we don't and if others don't as well, then innovation will be stifled.  But at the end of the day, it still depends not just on Stardock doing its part but also on others following through as well.

Jafo
Reply #146 Tuesday, December 26, 2006 5:44 PM

What my post talked about is how Stardock failed in doing its part to help the community last year. Last year, Stardock focused on being a business and growing as a business. To that end, it succeeded well.

Again, that's not a 'failing'. Strengthening Stardock's position commercially/financially whilst underwriting Wincustomize's existence cannot be construed as failing the community.  If anything the community takes Stardock too much for granted and fails itself for not taking advantage of what SD provides for it and gives back in positive attitude and enthusiasm.

I keep harping on 'skinning's history' as a valid educational tool....[Frogboy mentions Mian and Toasty - in case anyone is wondering...they were the bods behind the original Skinz.org....out of whose demise Wincustomize was born] as the realization that Stardock does not actually NEED Wincustomize for it to survive demonstrates there's another motive for its expenditure and existence...that of 'community'.

If the community doesn't get off its collective arse and at least aspire to the same standards set by Stardock's professionalism then it is itself which 'fails'.

Sure, documentation for the proggies would be a plus....but so would an environment here of mutual respect and friendliness from/to one and all.

New Year's resolutions are just around the corner.....it's a great time to think about your fellow skinner/skin-user and define new social parameters....

 

speedy5662
Reply #147 Wednesday, December 27, 2006 1:18 AM
If anything the community takes Stardock too much for granted and fails itself for not taking advantage of what SD provides for it and gives back in positive attitude and enthusiasm.


I second That!!!!!!

Speedy
c242
Reply #148 Wednesday, December 27, 2006 3:05 AM
I am not sure about that, but perhaps a part of the problem with good skins and suites to use as showcases for what can be done withskinning besides the ones Stardock released for purchase is the hiring for example of Mormegil and other big names. Don't get me wrong, I fully understand the reasons behind that, but since then the releases (and updates) of these fine people decreased (especially Paul's, who did fantastic things with DesktopX at the beginning and besides Gef's creations there are near to no really full themes anymore for DX, which for me still is the most underestimated app Stardock offers and the load of weather objects still doesn't do it justice as well, the only one doing fantastic things with it is RomanDA for Gadgets).

Also there are still so many great old skins here at Wincustomize which could be made available for the newest technologies with some update-work and again would show the full power of what Stardock has to offer. Think of suites like Toon-XP, Carbonix and even older ones like Marinara, they still would be state-of-the-art even today (as Universe Metal and Logica still are). So there is really no need to re-invent the wheel all the time for top skins and suites (of course this has to be seen as a mix of updated classics and new suites).
c242
Reply #149 Wednesday, December 27, 2006 3:06 AM
Sorry for those long sentences, can't edit them anymore as I had problems submitting and double-posted.
aelantha
Reply #150 Wednesday, December 27, 2006 3:06 PM
Bravo. Putting the problem into words is the first step to solving it, and it's probably the hardest.
Einstein
Reply #151 Wednesday, December 27, 2006 5:17 PM
All I can say is, "WOW!" It is interesting that the more things change the more they stay the same. When I first got involved with WindowBlinds back in 1999, I felt that all this free content needed something from me. I wanted to contribute to the community. My lame attempt at skinning showed my lack of graphical talent. However, I was able to understand the way to make a skin, so I decided to write a tutorial. "Those that can't do - teach."

This was for BuilderBlinds (the predecessor to SkinStudio) and I took about 2 weeks to create 6 pages of static HTML content. Anyone that says it is simple to create a tutorial has never tried. Anyway, once I posted it I asked Adam to review it. He loved it! However, it was already out of date. WB was growing like a weed with new capabilities and new skin syntax. I spent the better part of the next 6 months trying to keep just the 6 pages up-to-date. Ugh!

Then when SkinStudio came out with the completely revamped UI, I tried to do a new tutorial. But by then I didn't have the time to re-learn everything. Besides Alekandry had a much better product. So I felt that my services were no longer needed in the community.

I have lurked here ever since, and even delayed re-uping my subscription until just recently. OD.net seems to have reached steady-state and NOW would be a good time for a new tutorial/documentation. However, I don't think that I have the time, ability, or know-how. So much has changed and although I would love to learn, I just don't have the time like I used to. (ie, I can't dive head first into the uis file to figure out everything on my own again). Not to mention the inner workings of DX, OB, et al. These are things I would love to do, but after I got fired in the dot-com bust I became fearful of doing my own thing. I just can't jeopardize my livelihood to support a community anymore. Even reading/responding to this post is making me wary.

Life has changed a lot since 1999. It is hard to stay faithful to a sports team for that long, let alone a software utility. Especially one that lives on the cutting edge, while I am still stuck with Win2K because my employer doesn't see the need to upgrade.

So, I'm back in the catch 22 of wanting to contribute, but feeling more than inadequate to be useful. I'm betting a large number of OD.net subscribers fit in this category. Should I just quietly go away? Or is there something in the community that even I can do?
TYCUS
Reply #152 Wednesday, December 27, 2006 10:21 PM
Should I just quietly go away? Or is there something in the community that even I can do?


well.., i dont want to start a "oooh, please dont go" thread, but i guess that people like u are realy usefull!

...maybe you could try making a LogonStudio tutorial, is nothing but a plain text and codes to make a good logon
Iben
Reply #153 Wednesday, December 27, 2006 11:43 PM

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Failed is probably too strong a word.


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Einstein
Reply #154 Thursday, December 28, 2006 2:25 AM
Hey, I just loaded up SkinStudio and my Tutorial is still there. It is the "SkinStudio Online Tutorial - Old". And the DHTML doesn't work in FireFox. Amazing that few things on the internet ever get thrown away. Boy, I did it for WB 2.15 - man, that WAS a long time ago. I do feel pretty old and rusty.

And thanks for the suggestion Tycus, I think I should start with something easy to get back on the bandwagon. Everybody talks about doing something, but someone needs to just step up and DO IT.
Bichur
Reply #155 Thursday, December 28, 2006 10:15 AM
nhgrafx
Reply #156 Tuesday, January 2, 2007 1:43 PM
I think its very admire-able when the head of a company, big or small, can openly admit that mistakes have been made and presents a plan to rectify those mistakes. If more companies did this, the world would be a much nicer place to do business.

Being a graphic designer by profession, skinning has always been of big interest to me. I have only dabbled in skinning, but my results have been rather pathetic when it has all been compiled and applied since I really have no clue how to use skinstudio effectively. It has always been a pretty daunting task to me. I really like the idea, that frogboy presented, of having a beginner, intermediate, and advanced "mode" for skinstudio, since I don't have the time to jump into the program and figure it all out on my own.
TeeC
Reply #157 Tuesday, April 24, 2007 11:13 PM
I would like to echo what I have read in a number of replies. I have purchased Object Desktop, Object Dock, and a Wincustomize subscription that I have let expire. At this point I am 98% user and 2% skinner and I always found the process too frustrating given the amount of time I have available. If I was able to see more results quicker I would be encouraged to continue. Also, over the past year I have found little on the site that required me to renew my subscriptions. Vista support is great and I own Vista but it will be 6 months to a year before I try and rely on it for my daily work at the office or home. Subscribers were supposed to be offered special skin packages once or twice a year and I never saw those materialize. I am interested enough still to visit periodically although the fact that I am just replying to this article now shows that I am by no means a regular anymore, but there is hope. To put things in perspective, as cool as it is to fly to the moon on a rocket for me it is cooler to launch a model rocket because it is mine and it is real to me. Your products are great but all the technical capability in the world can be wasted if the individual never finds a way to make that one cool little item that is all his. Thank you.

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