That Rating System
Throw it in the trash !
Sunday, July 30, 2006 by _02 | Discussion: WinCustomize Site Issues
Reply #2 Sunday, July 30, 2006 9:24 PM
| It 'may' change in detail |
Is this a hint or clue of something to come?
I was wondering if the system would change with the changes to the wallpaper moderating. I'm not critisizing the system, but when I started seeing walls with only one star, I was hoping some modifications to ratings would be coming.
Reply #3 Sunday, July 30, 2006 9:28 PM
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Reply #9 Monday, July 31, 2006 1:29 AM
yes' it's important in certain way.., why? becouse the many new members or visitors realize that a skin with a poor rating means that that skin is bad, good or excelent(according to the amount of stars), now, "there is" a favouritism on the creations of some old skinners that i wont mention at all but many of the people that i know and talk with me via MSN tell me that.
..if i say that i dont realy care about the rating i will lie, i do realy care about the rating a little bit, but i try to pay more attention to the downloads, that is why i creat my skins, becouse i want to share with all of u, old and new members of this site, but it realy hurt to see high ratings on the wrong skin.
Reply #10 Monday, July 31, 2006 2:03 AM
| now, "there is" a favouritism on the creations of some old skinners that i wont mention at all but many of the people that i know and talk with me via MSN tell me that. |
If I told you the Earth was flat you'd believe that too, I presume...
There IS a 'rating system' on 'art'....when you are talking about what does and what does not make it to a Gallery's wall. Example...my sister's work, a portrait of a Labor Federal MP [Julia Gillard in Australia - do a Google] was one of 35 works successfully 'rated' to be hung for the Archibald Prize [2006]...out of 800+ submissions...that's about 24 in 25 never saw the 'light of day'.
On a private, personal site or 'gallery' you can do as you wish with 'accepting all and equally', whatever you like.
On Wincustomize.com a different process applies...;
Reply #11 Monday, July 31, 2006 2:32 AM
..and btw, most of all the comments on those skins are from old skinners(friends i think).
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sry for the bad english

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Reply #13 Monday, July 31, 2006 5:05 AM
| There IS a 'rating system' on 'art'....when you are talking about what does and what does not make it to a Gallery's wall. Example...my sister's work, a portrait of a Labor Federal MP [Julia Gillard in Australia - do a Google] was one of 35 works successfully 'rated' to be hung for the Archibald Prize [2006]...out of 800+ submissions...that's about 24 in 25 never saw the 'light of day'. |
Well, Jafo, this isn't a gallery of a museum of portraits ( at which I do draw portraits), its a gallery of well talented skinners good or bad. When you walk into a gallery do you see 5 stars hanging on the wall so you can rate it? Yup, thats what I thought, you don't see that. Look deep within that art piece and appreciate everything you see and inhale all that beauty. Jafo, this isn't a joke maybe to you it is, but to others its what they do best.
Reply #14 Monday, July 31, 2006 6:22 AM
The ratings don't matter ....the downloads don't matter.
What does matter, is that you've created something you are happy with, and then decided to share it with this community. This alone should be enough to bring you pleasure, regardless of how many downloads your finished works get.
Take pleasure from your own work, first and foremost.
All else is the cream.
If downloads and ratings is/are what you do this for ...then in my humble opinion, you're doing it for all the wrong reasons.
...carry on

Reply #15 Monday, July 31, 2006 7:02 AM
| What does matter, is that you've created something you are happy with, and then decided to share it with this community. This alone should be enough to bring you pleasure, regardless of how many downloads your finished works get. |
That pretty much sums it up right there.
I could care less what rating I get on any of my skins. If one person enjoys the work I put into it, then it was totally worth it.
Reply #16 Monday, July 31, 2006 8:01 AM
Reply #17 Monday, July 31, 2006 8:04 AM
| If downloads and ratings is/are what you do this for ...then in my humble opinion, you're doing it for all the wrong reasons. |
Well my friend, I do this to share my art work with the community, I don't come here to see the rating or how much was downloaded. I do it for all the right reasons, so you know what you can do with that little quote you just typed and don't be putting words in my mouth that you know nothing about. Maybe you should read more on the works of "ART"
Reply #18 Monday, July 31, 2006 8:24 AM
]...and was not intended to put words in your mouth.Perhaps you should read a little deeper into a comment, before you jump to the defensive.
It was a generalisation, intended for all to read and think upon ...not aimed at you, as you seem to think it was.
This downloads and ratings subject comes up often, and is a thorn in many people's sides.
| I don't come here to see the rating or how much was downloaded. I do it for all the right reasons |
By this comment ..it actually seems we are in agreement, so I dont see why you got steamed up..
...gawd, I love the internet.
Reply #19 Monday, July 31, 2006 8:34 AM
In my view (personal opinion only, not necessarily the official stance of Stardock), as we relax the standards on what gets accepted and what doesn't, we need to shift to a heavier reliance on a public ratings system. There needs to be some way, in addition to simply showcasing people's works that they submit, to really highlight the best stuff submitted. A lot of people come here looking for blinds, wallpapers, icons, DX themes etc to make their PC as cool looking as possible, and it can be discouraging having to sort through pages of Bryce renders and MS Paint drawings to find something that's pretty good. One of the only ways currently is to derive some meaning/information out of the ratings and download data we have available to us.
However, there is a need to review how we do that, and how the ratings system will work in the future. If you have suggestions on how to improve the methods by which we feature the really good work, please share! I can be reached at mikec[at]stardock.com
Reply #20 Monday, July 31, 2006 8:44 AM
| Jafo, this isn't a joke maybe to you it is, but to others its what they do best. |
portraits ...
Re words-into-mouth-placements....
It may surprise you to know that my personal formal 'Art education' began in 1972 [OK, so my sister was graduating with an Honours Degree in Fine Art about that time and I was just starting], and since then my 'creations' have been judged/rated/misused/abused/call it what you will - in all ways and forms.
It's really nothing new.
What 'should' be clear here on Wincustomize.com is that I for one do NOT consider skins and skinning [and the treatment of the works and their makers] as a 'joke'. I am 'one of them' myself, getting into skinning back around '97.
Wincustomize.com IS a gallery, and as with any ALL galleries it has rules/criteria for/what/how the works are to be displayed.
You, too can be one of the 800 whose works were NEVER seen, or you can be one of the 35 whose works WERE seen.
On this site all 800+ at least 'might' be seen by all...provided public opinion decrees.
That makes Wincustomize.com ane hell of a lot fairer than what transpires in Australia's premiere contest for Portraiture. {example used only because I know it well]...
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Reply #1 Sunday, July 30, 2006 9:12 PM
I really don't think the rating system will be 'thrown in the trash', no matter how many requests there are for it to be done.
It 'may' change in detail, but not in principle....