Look at this Photoshop image

Thursday, April 13, 2006 by Island Dog | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk

I used to watch this guy on The Screensavers until Techtv was taken over.

http://www.bertmonroy.com/fineart/text/fineart_damen.htm

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Jafo
Reply #1 Thursday, April 13, 2006 8:23 AM
The perspective isn't all that convincing....
Adamness
Reply #2 Thursday, April 13, 2006 8:48 AM
I never did see the point of photorealism, although it's impressive he got the textures and whatnot on the computer.
cerendir
Reply #3 Thursday, April 13, 2006 9:06 AM
Well, it's a fairly impressive image but at the same time the whole deal sounds like an insane waste of time and effort. I mean... if you want to do images like this, why do it in Photoshop? Why not a 3D program? That ought to be much easier and the end result would probably be a lot more convincing. But then again I might be missing the point... maybe it isn't supposed to be "easy".
Jafo
Reply #4 Thursday, April 13, 2006 9:42 AM

... if you want to do images like this, why do it in Photoshop? Why not a 3D program?

Why not by hand?  Did it really 'need' a squillion layers?

Nope....

Sleeping Dragon
Reply #5 Thursday, April 13, 2006 1:17 PM
...or take a picture
thomassen
Reply #6 Thursday, April 13, 2006 2:32 PM
The point? Because he can and because he probably likes it. Same as people asking why peolpe bother using weeks and months on making a skin.
WebGizmos
Reply #7 Thursday, April 13, 2006 2:51 PM
I think it looks great...we all spend way to much time analyzing.
Z71
Reply #8 Thursday, April 13, 2006 2:54 PM
Why do it at all? People are just going to rag on you for doing it anyways.

Who care how he did it, right? I thought it was all about supporting the community, to express themselves any way they like and use any tools they feel comfortable with.
I guess not today.

Why skin? All you need is a camera, right? Sheesh....
Island Dog
Reply #9 Thursday, April 13, 2006 6:51 PM

Why skin? All you need is a camera, right? Sheesh....

Jafo
Reply #10 Thursday, April 13, 2006 7:10 PM

To clarify....he's used a huge image res.....and made it all so intricate but over-complicated with layers,etc....and in so doing has lost overall clarity/continuity of scale and perspective, a problem when the screen is too small for the image as a whole.

More effort should have gone into sketching for scale and proportion.

First....

WebGizmos
Reply #11 Thursday, April 13, 2006 7:19 PM
The one flaw in perspective I see in that first image is on the brick building on the right. Looking at the top left of the building, the corner seems off. Other than that looks pretty good.
WebGizmos
Reply #12 Thursday, April 13, 2006 7:20 PM
Or...maybe not.
tjesterb
Reply #13 Thursday, April 13, 2006 7:44 PM
I don't get all the bashing. I've seen plenty of stuff posted here and on DA that is nowhere near as good, yet everyone falls all over themselves telling the author how good it is.
I used to watch Burt Monroy on the old Screen Savers as well, the guy is incredibly talented.

This guy is also an incredible Photoshop artist: http://www.shinybinary.com/
Of course, from the looks of this thread, Photoshop isn't considered a valid medium here anymore.
Double Zero
Reply #14 Thursday, April 13, 2006 8:19 PM
Well hell..Lets give him a 6 and put it out there for DL...LoL





Who said that? ..LoL
homeryulo
Reply #15 Thursday, April 13, 2006 8:36 PM
i think its great..
Jafo
Reply #16 Thursday, April 13, 2006 8:39 PM

I don't get all the bashing

It's not 'bashing', it's critical comment by those who may not be as 'wowed' by effort expended as by results shown.

Photoshop is as poor a tool as any other.  Being sufficiently anal to detail to the n'th degree is all well and good but if the direction is less than perfect so will be the outcome.

[I am also my sister's hashest critic....though it was she, not me that was 'hung' for the Archibald Prize this year [Australia's premier 'contest' for portraiture]]...

SKoriginals
Reply #17 Friday, April 14, 2006 9:15 AM
The perspective in this isn't all that bad... my credit to him goes out for both shear size of it (40"x20" the size of an actual painting), hours spent, and attention to detail. Digital painting is a true pain in the arse. Overall he has done a really good job folks.

The reason? Why even question that... photoshop is just another medium, like paint, pencil, plaster, photography, and so on.... asking why is like saying why paint at all when there are cameras (which actually has been in debate off and on in the art world since cameras were introduced, more or less its impact but still). Just my 2 cents...
SKoriginals
Reply #18 Friday, April 14, 2006 9:18 AM
I think someone metioned the camera bit in skinning, but its a valid point towards art in general... ask Dangerous why he doesn't just take pictures of cars....
Adamness
Reply #19 Friday, April 14, 2006 9:29 AM
If you're trying to create something to look like a photo, then just take a photo. When you use a certain medium, you should embrace the qualities of that medium, not try to hide them.
Cyberworld
Reply #20 Friday, April 14, 2006 10:53 AM
On the other hand i wish i had skills like that...

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