IE7 Bugs Abound
Thursday, February 2, 2006 by WebGizmos | Discussion: Personal Computing
Beta testers beware! 
Chris TH
Reply #2 Thursday, February 2, 2006 6:41 AM
Anyone involved in software development knows that this is not an economical possibility...
Reply #2 Thursday, February 2, 2006 6:41 AM
| They don't even have a goal of releasing a flawless product. |
Anyone involved in software development knows that this is not an economical possibility...
Majic7
Reply #3 Thursday, February 2, 2006 7:14 AM
Reply #3 Thursday, February 2, 2006 7:14 AM
Brad or Neal might have to post a sticky about people posting Windowblinds bugs with IE7. There have been a few posts since it went public and I'm sure the last thing they are interested in is chasing their tail with something that is still beta and bound to change at a moments notice. I think Neal said as much in a post a while back, can't find it though.
NightTrainthedark
Reply #4 Thursday, February 2, 2006 7:20 AM
Of course but why have people become comfy with that fact? Would you buy a substandard auotmobile, house, cheesburger. If a company was selling cars with huge safety problems, would people not fight back? If cheesburgers were sending everyone to the hospital, would something not be done about it? Just seems to me something went amiss along the way and people have accepted subpar products when it comes to computers.
Reply #4 Thursday, February 2, 2006 7:20 AM
| Anyone involved in software development knows that this is not an economical possibility |
Of course but why have people become comfy with that fact? Would you buy a substandard auotmobile, house, cheesburger. If a company was selling cars with huge safety problems, would people not fight back? If cheesburgers were sending everyone to the hospital, would something not be done about it? Just seems to me something went amiss along the way and people have accepted subpar products when it comes to computers.
Jafo
Reply #6 Thursday, February 2, 2006 8:28 AM
Reply #6 Thursday, February 2, 2006 8:28 AM
I'm using IE7 on my wife's machine....had one of its addon thingies crash already...and typing in this window is about as screwy an experience as ever I have had...not for the faint-hearted....
....and it's 'irks'.....
Kevin_C
Reply #7 Thursday, February 2, 2006 8:34 AM
Let's be honest, this is like comparing apples to rasins
.. Automobiles do have bugs, not sure if you heard about the problems encountered with the newest BMW's but they apparently have computer controlled engines and there was a glitch that caused the engines to just shut off sometimes while the driver was just driving along. As far as hospitals, there are mistakes made in hospitals EVERY DAY, and people die based on those mistakes every day. Oh, and cheeseburgers will send people to the hospital, eventually..
Now, as far as software goes it is a known fact that the larger a software project the more bugs it is going to have. The goal of course is to not have any *show stoppers* or bugs that sre easily re-produced during activities that it is assumed will be commonly used. If it were an easy thing to write perfect software, everyone would be doing it but software is written by humans and humans make mistakes. Even when those mistakes are caught it is common for a fix to one bug to create another that may or may not be found. In a project the size of something like IE7 or Firefox for that matter it is safe to assume there are going to be bugs. I do think it was short sighted of MS to state that they aren't even attempting to release a flawless product. While it's really just an honest statement I can see the various hard-core anti-IE crowds cheering about MS admitting that IE will be flawed and that the world should switch to browser x because it IS absolutely flawless. Which of course is complete garbage.
Reply #7 Thursday, February 2, 2006 8:34 AM
| Would you buy a substandard auotmobile, house, cheesburger |
Let's be honest, this is like comparing apples to rasins
.. Automobiles do have bugs, not sure if you heard about the problems encountered with the newest BMW's but they apparently have computer controlled engines and there was a glitch that caused the engines to just shut off sometimes while the driver was just driving along. As far as hospitals, there are mistakes made in hospitals EVERY DAY, and people die based on those mistakes every day. Oh, and cheeseburgers will send people to the hospital, eventually..Now, as far as software goes it is a known fact that the larger a software project the more bugs it is going to have. The goal of course is to not have any *show stoppers* or bugs that sre easily re-produced during activities that it is assumed will be commonly used. If it were an easy thing to write perfect software, everyone would be doing it but software is written by humans and humans make mistakes. Even when those mistakes are caught it is common for a fix to one bug to create another that may or may not be found. In a project the size of something like IE7 or Firefox for that matter it is safe to assume there are going to be bugs. I do think it was short sighted of MS to state that they aren't even attempting to release a flawless product. While it's really just an honest statement I can see the various hard-core anti-IE crowds cheering about MS admitting that IE will be flawed and that the world should switch to browser x because it IS absolutely flawless. Which of course is complete garbage.
Zoomba
Reply #8 Thursday, February 2, 2006 9:30 AM
Reply #8 Thursday, February 2, 2006 9:30 AM
*Gasp!* You mean a beta copy has bugs?! Say it aint so! 
This is why I don't install beta copies of anything but games. Beta windows software such as IE, or even WB has too great a possibility of thrashing a computer when some never-before-seen bug pops up.
I've gotten a kick out of sites like /. and such jumping all over the buggy beta as if it's proof of a bad final product.
This is why I don't install beta copies of anything but games. Beta windows software such as IE, or even WB has too great a possibility of thrashing a computer when some never-before-seen bug pops up.I've gotten a kick out of sites like /. and such jumping all over the buggy beta as if it's proof of a bad final product.
thomassen
Reply #9 Thursday, February 2, 2006 9:58 AM
Reply #9 Thursday, February 2, 2006 9:58 AM
Here's a response from one of the IE developers: http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/02/01/522682.aspx
jimkraz
Reply #10 Thursday, February 2, 2006 10:02 AM
Reply #10 Thursday, February 2, 2006 10:02 AM
The only bad bug I can find so far, it kept opning my connect widow, though I was already connected, into tools/options and turned off the connect if not connected, now ok, appart from that, having worked with it for 24hrs, it looks not bad, it browses not bad, no major problems at any of the sites I have been to, and, it can only get better, oh, and it's free. Jim
Kevin_C
Reply #11 Thursday, February 2, 2006 10:57 AM
Hahahaha!! Indeed, a beta with bugs whodda thunk-it!! Well, I hope nobody installed the new beta on their main box.
Reply #11 Thursday, February 2, 2006 10:57 AM
| *Gasp!* You mean a beta copy has bugs?! Say it aint so! |
Hahahaha!! Indeed, a beta with bugs whodda thunk-it!! Well, I hope nobody installed the new beta on their main box.
Island Dog
Reply #12 Thursday, February 2, 2006 11:24 AM
Reply #12 Thursday, February 2, 2006 11:24 AM
I always laugh at people who say this. Don't download beta software unless you understand what beta means.
kona0197
Reply #13 Thursday, February 2, 2006 2:06 PM
Reply #13 Thursday, February 2, 2006 2:06 PM
I can't wait till all the bugs are ironed out.
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Reply #1 Thursday, February 2, 2006 5:57 AM
The part about "at least fewer issues" really erks me. They don't even have a goal of releasing a flawless product. sheeeesh