Is is "G"IF ir "J"IF... you be the Judge
Seems like this is an ancient hot debate
Monday, January 9, 2006 by Sembetu | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
The C|net / news.com hosted esoterica blog has decided to make a foray into one of the longest standing debates in the history of computing. Hold on to your hats people, and get ready to hotly contest whether it is GIF with a hard G or JIF with a soft G. You be the judge, you decide, the public awaits your professional opinion.
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Adamness
Reply #2 Monday, January 9, 2006 11:30 AM
Reply #2 Monday, January 9, 2006 11:30 AM
I just never use a .gif cause I don't know which is the right way to say it.
Sleeping Dragon
Reply #3 Monday, January 9, 2006 12:01 PM
Reply #3 Monday, January 9, 2006 12:01 PM
I jenerally don't jive a rip as to whether it's jif or gif. Jiven the right set of jeneralities, I use gifs for jenerally all my animations that I guxstasuppose with Gasc animastion shop. I vajuely remember some jreat joals that I said I would jet to that had to do with this jenre of Gifs. Yet, it is joing to be a real jas gust fijuring out if I jot the ability to jo anywhere at all, jiven the jreat gob it turns out to be. I feel like I've run the jauntlet every time I jive it a jo. 
NightTrainthedark
Reply #5 Monday, January 9, 2006 12:04 PM
Reply #5 Monday, January 9, 2006 12:04 PM
This debate has been known to destroy cities. You should be ashamed Sembetu. 
Sembetu
Reply #10 Monday, January 9, 2006 1:29 PM
Reply #10 Monday, January 9, 2006 1:29 PM
Whew, I think I should drink some water...
Look, I didn't invent the wheel, I just showed it to the next ape... (cue 'Thus Spake Zarthustra')...
I mean, I think it should be well, and officially established. I kind of get tired of hearing people refer to them as jif's, or saying "dot jay pee jee" instead of jpeg when they see a .jpg, or saying "pee en jee" instead of ping.
I am reading a book now by Robert Bringhurst called 'The Elements of Typographical Style', and in it Mr Bringhurst states that once an abbreviation has entered common vernacular and is recognized in common speech, it ceases to be an abbreviation, and that goes for acronyms as well. Thus, the establishment of these naming conventions is relevant if only to provide structure to our common vernacular and to avoid confusion. For instance:
Quite valid if you ask me, and were there stricter adherance to the conept of formalizing rules regarding the adoption of acronyms and abbreviations into common language, there would be less words (English Language specifically), which are so easily obfuscated. Obviously, if I say I would like "jif" on my sandwich, nobody would think that I want a printed 256 color image with transparency capability added to my sandwich, but in truth, nobody should even have to have that bridge crossed for them.
Sembetu
| This debate has been known to destroy cities. You should be ashamed Sembetu. |
Look, I didn't invent the wheel, I just showed it to the next ape... (cue 'Thus Spake Zarthustra')...
I mean, I think it should be well, and officially established. I kind of get tired of hearing people refer to them as jif's, or saying "dot jay pee jee" instead of jpeg when they see a .jpg, or saying "pee en jee" instead of ping.
I am reading a book now by Robert Bringhurst called 'The Elements of Typographical Style', and in it Mr Bringhurst states that once an abbreviation has entered common vernacular and is recognized in common speech, it ceases to be an abbreviation, and that goes for acronyms as well. Thus, the establishment of these naming conventions is relevant if only to provide structure to our common vernacular and to avoid confusion. For instance:
| JIF is peanut butter |
Quite valid if you ask me, and were there stricter adherance to the conept of formalizing rules regarding the adoption of acronyms and abbreviations into common language, there would be less words (English Language specifically), which are so easily obfuscated. Obviously, if I say I would like "jif" on my sandwich, nobody would think that I want a printed 256 color image with transparency capability added to my sandwich, but in truth, nobody should even have to have that bridge crossed for them.
Sembetu
TYCUS
Reply #11 Monday, January 9, 2006 1:35 PM
lol
Reply #11 Monday, January 9, 2006 1:35 PM
| I jenerally don't jive a rip as to whether it's jif or gif. Jiven the right set of jeneralities, I use gifs for jenerally all my animations that I guxstasuppose with Gasc animastion shop. I vajuely remember some jreat joals that I said I would jet to that had to do with this jenre of Gifs. Yet, it is joing to be a real jas gust fijuring out if I jot the ability to jo anywhere at all, jiven the jreat gob it turns out to be. I feel like I've run the jauntlet every time I jive it a jo. |
lol
Koasati
Reply #12 Monday, January 9, 2006 1:39 PM
Reply #12 Monday, January 9, 2006 1:39 PM
I've always called it Gif (hard G). JPG, is J-Peg, BMP is bitmap, but for some reason, I've never called PNG, ping.... it's P-N-G, in my head. TGA, is T-G-A.... not t'ga, or targa 
TYCUS
Reply #13 Monday, January 9, 2006 1:41 PM
Reply #13 Monday, January 9, 2006 1:41 PM
for you..., wich one is the best? .gif or .jif? because in my opinion i prefer GIF...
imagine if right now we change the name to .jif!!!! it would be a little bit confused
imagine if right now we change the name to .jif!!!! it would be a little bit confused
Sembetu
Reply #14 Monday, January 9, 2006 1:49 PM
Exactly my point and why we need to seek fromalization of the method for adopting such nomenclatures into our collective vernacular. In my head it, too, is P-N-G, but for the sake of vernacular purposes, it is easier to refer to it as a ping, or a targa, (my opinion), I would just suggest that adopting a formal structure would prevent confusion when referring to a filename versus a nomenclature.
Reply #14 Monday, January 9, 2006 1:49 PM
| I've always called it Gif (hard G). JPG, is J-Peg, BMP is bitmap, but for some reason, I've never called PNG, ping.... it's P-N-G, in my head. TGA, is T-G-A.... not t'ga, or targa |
Exactly my point and why we need to seek fromalization of the method for adopting such nomenclatures into our collective vernacular. In my head it, too, is P-N-G, but for the sake of vernacular purposes, it is easier to refer to it as a ping, or a targa, (my opinion), I would just suggest that adopting a formal structure would prevent confusion when referring to a filename versus a nomenclature.
Reppiks
Reply #17 Monday, January 9, 2006 6:00 PM
Reply #17 Monday, January 9, 2006 6:00 PM
Now here this...The "G" stands for "graphic" which is a hard G! therefore, it must be a hard "gif". Now, that and $.95 will get you a cup of coffee!
Adamness
Reply #18 Monday, January 9, 2006 6:35 PM
Reply #18 Monday, January 9, 2006 6:35 PM
Good logic Reppiks. I guess that's the end of that.
aimzzz
Reply #20 Monday, January 9, 2006 6:44 PM
You would let lojic higack a jood discussion?
Reply #20 Monday, January 9, 2006 6:44 PM
| I guess that's the end of that. |
You would let lojic higack a jood discussion?
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Reply #1 Monday, January 9, 2006 10:55 AM