Is is "G"IF ir "J"IF... you be the Judge

Seems like this is an ancient hot debate

Monday, January 9, 2006 by Sembetu | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk

The C|net / news.com hosted esoterica blog has decided to make a foray into one of the longest standing debates in the history of computing. Hold on to your hats people, and get ready to hotly contest whether it is GIF with a hard G or JIF with a soft G. You be the judge, you decide, the public awaits your professional opinion.
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Xenon101
Reply #21 Monday, January 9, 2006 7:00 PM
"Graphics Interchange Format". You dont spell graphics with a "J". "Jraphics"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Whatever!! I say "G"IF!

.... it's P-N-G, in my head. TGA, is T-G-A.... not t'ga, or targa [quote/]

PNG is P-N-G but I prefer targa over T-G-A.
Sleeping Dragon
Reply #22 Monday, January 9, 2006 7:12 PM
Ping, Gif, J-peg, bitmap, T-G-A, and Chicken pot, Chicken pot, Chicken pot pie.
Lantec
Reply #23 Monday, January 9, 2006 7:19 PM
"Graphics Interchange Format"

Dead on. Although at one time I seem to remember it as "Compuserve Graphic Interchange Format"
Sleeping Dragon
Reply #24 Monday, January 9, 2006 7:21 PM
Dead on. Although at one time I seem to remember it as "Compuserve Graphic Interchange Format"


That's how it reads on my 'puter, too. ...So it's a CGIF, pronounced KGiff
Lantec
Reply #25 Monday, January 9, 2006 7:39 PM
Still have a copy of the little ring binder guide for CIM v1.0
(Compuserve Information Manager)definetly the king of late 80's BBS services. I kept my account right up to the day AOL bought them out. For you youngsters....I used to pay $22.50 US per hour for 300 baud access. Unbelieveable the way things have developed.
starone
Reply #26 Monday, January 9, 2006 9:19 PM
Hum, don't think I've ever seen "Jif", or is it "Jiff", personally. If I've misspelled his name forgive me. Now "Gif" is and has been more familiar and an old friend but alas had to bury him too for the new fellows on the block, i.e. "TGA" and "PNG". Now they are really nice ones to get to know. The other two, well, guess I'd better stop for now.

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Jafo
Reply #27 Monday, January 9, 2006 9:39 PM

'GIF' is a proprietary format...so it's up to Compuserve  to determine how its format is pronounced....

Since it's initials....GEE EYE EFF, 'normal' pronunciation would have the 'GEE' retained and the rest as 'IF'....and since 2 syllables [GEE IFF] is one too many....people are lazy it'd be shortened to 'Gif', pronounced with the same 'g' as in 'giraffe'...the 'gi' in 'gif' is the same then as the 'gi' in 'giraffe'.

Either way....as long as 'what it is' is communicated without confusion....who REALLY cares?....

aimzzz
Reply #28 Monday, January 9, 2006 10:11 PM
jiraffes don't jive a flip
yrag
Reply #29 Monday, January 9, 2006 10:29 PM
Since it's initials....GEE EYE EFF, 'normal' pronunciation would have the 'GEE' retained and the rest as 'IF'....and since 2 syllables [GEE IFF] is one too many....people are lazy it'd be shortened to 'Gif', pronounced with the same 'g' as in 'giraffe'...the 'gi' in 'gif' is the same then as the 'gi' in 'giraffe'.


...how many Coopers do you have to down to spank the Queen Mum's english that hard...??
Reppiks
Reply #30 Monday, January 9, 2006 10:33 PM
Jafo, (not pronounced as Gafo) since you are the utmost authority on the King's English, I'm surprised you just gave in on this one!
Cyberworld
Reply #31 Tuesday, January 10, 2006 4:37 AM
GIF Rocks! JIF is a brand of cleaner where i live so i guess it doesn't cope with anims formats...
Halluci
Reply #32 Tuesday, January 10, 2006 5:41 PM
how many times do you actually use "gif" (either pronunciation) in a spoken conversation anyway?
Jafo
Reply #33 Tuesday, January 10, 2006 8:29 PM

how many times do you actually use "gif" (either pronunciation) in a spoken conversation anyway?

If you're into computer graphics/skinning/GUI customising .... probably a few times... though it's an old format these days...

scorpio-logic
Reply #34 Tuesday, January 10, 2006 10:08 PM
hard G. Like they said: Jif is peanut butter.

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jebro
Reply #35 Wednesday, January 11, 2006 1:02 AM
The European Commissioners have announced that an agreement has been
reached to adopt English as the preferred language for European
communications, rather than German, which was the other possibility.

As part of the negotiations, Her Majesty's Government conceded that
English spelling had some room for improvement and has accepted a five-year
phased plan for what will be known as EuroEnglish (Euro for short).

In the first year, "s" will be used instead of the soft "c".
Sertainley, sivil servants will resieve this news with joy.
Also, the hard "c" will be replaced with "k". Not only will this
klear up konfusion, but typewriters and komputers kan have one less letter.

There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year,
when the troublesome "ph" will be replaced by "f". This will make
words like "fotograf" 20 percent shorter. In the third year,
publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be expekted to reach the stage
where more komplikated changes are possible. Governments will enkorage
the removal of double letters, which have always ben a deterent
to akurate speling. Also, al wil agre that the horible mes of silent
"e"s in the languag is disgrasful, and they would go.

By the fourth year, peopl wil be replasing "th" by "z" and "w" by "v".

During ze fifz year, ze unesesary "o" kan be dropd from vords kontaining "ou", and similar changes vud of kors be aplid to ozer kombinations of leters.
After zis fifz yer, ve vil hav a reli sensibl riten styl. Zer vil be
no mor trubls or difikultis and evrivun vil find it
ezi tu understand ech ozer.

Ze drem vil finali kum tru.
aimzzz
Reply #36 Wednesday, January 11, 2006 1:21 AM
Xenon101
Reply #37 Wednesday, January 11, 2006 1:22 AM
Skarny
Reply #38 Wednesday, January 11, 2006 6:40 AM
I actually refer to bmp files as bumps (the u is almost unpronounced) in conversation. Gif is Gifh (hard G), JPG is Jay Peg, Png is Pee En Jee.
exe is Ecksy. That little hidden file that plagues me on multiboot systems in the root is Nt Elder.


I prefer the Graphic Interchange Format argument best.
Fuzzy Logic
Reply #39 Wednesday, January 11, 2006 7:45 AM

From that well known font of knowledge wikipedia, -

Pronunciation

Some English-speakers pronounce the acronym 'GIF' with a plosive (as in the word "gift"). Others pronounce it with an affricate (as in the word "giraffe"). There is evidence, including comments from Bob Berry, one of the format's creators, suggesting the affricate pronunciation is correct.

The pronunciation coined by the creators of the file format during its unravelling presentation in the 1980's pronounced the format as "JIF" in sound. This is the most popular method of pronouncing the file format in the spoken word, while most Macintosh users and Photographic artists still pronounce it as GIF", like "Gift".

The basic pronunciation of a word like GIF also dictates that the when a consonant (G) is immediatly followed by a vowel (I) the consonant's sound is elongated, so the G should be pronounced as "Gey", bound with the i and f, correctly pronounced "JIF"

aimzzz
Reply #40 Wednesday, January 11, 2006 10:02 AM
The basic pronunciation of a word like GIF also dictates that the when a consonant (G) is immediatly followed by a vowel (I) the consonant's sound is elongated, so the G should be pronounced as "Gey", bound with the i and f, correctly pronounced "JIF"

* Guffaws

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