Opera vs. FireFox redux
Tuesday, November 8, 2005 by Majic7 | Discussion: Internet
I,ve been using FireFox for a while for WC, mainly because of the downloading ease on FireFox vs. IE. Tried Opera when it became free a while back but there was some conflict with posting on forums. That seems to fixed now. I've been having a lot server to busy, slow loads when switching threads, and timed outs. Decided to give Opera another try today and what a difference. None of the above problems. I tried a couple of downloads and they seem to work just like FireFox. Defaults to whatever program is called for, only tried IP so far. Brad mentioned that 25% of people browsing WC use FireFox so this probably has something to do with the slowness I've been experiencing. Different paths maybe? I don't know much about how these things work but so far Opera has cleared a major irritation for me. On dial-up. One weird thing though, the main page for forums doesn't update at the rate FireFox does. Hit more on any of the sections and they are updated. Another edit, now FireFox is just as fast, maybe it was a time of day thing. I'll keep testing to see if there really is a difference.
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gfcentral002
Reply #2 Wednesday, November 9, 2005 12:00 AM
Reply #2 Wednesday, November 9, 2005 12:00 AM
i've used both, and always switch between the two for various reasons 
guess just depends on how i feel lol i think both are pretty good to use
guess just depends on how i feel lol i think both are pretty good to use
Bichur
Reply #3 Wednesday, November 9, 2005 12:33 AM
Reply #3 Wednesday, November 9, 2005 12:33 AM
Main difference so far for me is: Opera won't let me sign in 
And I can't find it's ass so I can kick it. 
can anybody hep me?
And I can't find it's ass so I can kick it. 
can anybody hep me?
starkers
Reply #4 Wednesday, November 9, 2005 3:31 AM
Reply #4 Wednesday, November 9, 2005 3:31 AM
I've found Firefox and Opera to be equally useful, each has its advantages, and both can be slow to update forum pages at times. It's good to know that they can be refreshed in Opera with preference tweaks....shall have to look into that.....thanks, Lantec.
Dunno if this helps, but mostly, when I have problems, the ass I need to kick is right there if I bend over in front of the mirror.
| And I can't find it's ass so I can kick it |
Dunno if this helps, but mostly, when I have problems, the ass I need to kick is right there if I bend over in front of the mirror.
scorpio-logic
Reply #5 Wednesday, November 9, 2005 3:54 AM
I had this problem too. So out goes Opera. It's easier to just use SDC in one VD and WCB in another VD, that way I can check or post at two different places. I don't think it matters what you use, though, at times it's just like waiting for the grass to grow while a page is trying to load. I tweak the hell out of my stuff, run spyware and all that to no avail. When I used IRC (long ago), there was a nice proggy called PIRCh that you could do neat things like bully your way into a chat room. Kinda makes me wanna shoulder block when I wanna see lots of skins in a little bit of time.
Reply #5 Wednesday, November 9, 2005 3:54 AM
| Main difference so far for me is: Opera won't let me sign in |
I had this problem too. So out goes Opera. It's easier to just use SDC in one VD and WCB in another VD, that way I can check or post at two different places. I don't think it matters what you use, though, at times it's just like waiting for the grass to grow while a page is trying to load. I tweak the hell out of my stuff, run spyware and all that to no avail. When I used IRC (long ago), there was a nice proggy called PIRCh that you could do neat things like bully your way into a chat room. Kinda makes me wanna shoulder block when I wanna see lots of skins in a little bit of time.
Majic7
Reply #6 Wednesday, November 9, 2005 7:09 AM
Reply #6 Wednesday, November 9, 2005 7:09 AM
Bichur, if you mean the white page when you open Opera that doesn't seem to have a way out, no go button, click on the home icon, go to Opera home page, click on Opera Portal in upper right corner and it gives you a Google type page like FireFox. I fumbled around a bit before I found this.
Inge18
Reply #8 Wednesday, November 9, 2005 7:47 AM
Reply #8 Wednesday, November 9, 2005 7:47 AM
On my machine Opera is faster than Firefox 1.0.7, but today I've installed FF 1.5 RC1 and the Fasterfox extension. I've switched to "Turbo" mode, and really that's what Firefox is now: turbo fast. Even faster than Opera.
What I miss in Opera is a real ad-block feature. Using the filter.ini excluding ad-URLs does not work well. The Adblock extension in FF is still the one and only.
Even faster than Opera. What I miss in Opera is a real ad-block feature. Using the filter.ini excluding ad-URLs does not work well. The Adblock extension in FF is still the one and only.
Majic7
Reply #9 Wednesday, November 9, 2005 8:24 AM
Reply #9 Wednesday, November 9, 2005 8:24 AM
Bichur,if not you didn't show them your picture, did you?
Bichur
Reply #10 Wednesday, November 9, 2005 8:38 AM
No, I mean I have WC set as the home page, I open Opera, WC shows the boxes for signing in...I fill in my info and password, click go....the page submits, comes up and shows the boxes to sign in, I do, click go, the page shows the boxes to sign in....excetera, excetera.. Excetera.
Reply #10 Wednesday, November 9, 2005 8:38 AM
| Main difference so far for me is: Opera won't let me sign in |
| Bichur, if you mean the white page when you open Opera that doesn't seem to have a way out, |
No, I mean I have WC set as the home page, I open Opera, WC shows the boxes for signing in...I fill in my info and password, click go....the page submits, comes up and shows the boxes to sign in, I do, click go, the page shows the boxes to sign in....excetera, excetera.. Excetera.
Bichur
Reply #11 Wednesday, November 9, 2005 8:40 AM
No, I used Starker's
Reply #11 Wednesday, November 9, 2005 8:40 AM
| Bichur,if not you didn't show them your picture, did you? |
No, I used Starker's
Majic7
Reply #12 Wednesday, November 9, 2005 9:06 AM
Reply #12 Wednesday, November 9, 2005 9:06 AM
Bichur, I didn't think I really knew what your sign in problem was, but that's not unusual, when it comes to computers I'm usually not quite up to speed. I try to keep everything as simple as possible. Don't make home pages, I never log out of WC, so when I go to WC from where ever, I'm auto signed in. Hopefully Opera won't switch me to non-subscriber pages in the middle of a session like FireFox has. I'm going to keep using Opera until I figure out whether it's browser or server related.
Bichur
Reply #13 Wednesday, November 9, 2005 10:33 AM
Reply #13 Wednesday, November 9, 2005 10:33 AM
I'd swear when I first got Opera (during the one day free, before it became free) it let me sign in. Now, it's like nothing is happening. I don't know if while trying out the customizations, and what not I screwed something up.
Any suggestions, anybody?
Any suggestions, anybody?
starkers
Reply #14 Wednesday, November 9, 2005 12:07 PM
I've had that happen to me on more than one occasion, on both Firefox and Opera. However, I put that down to a server error rather than something to do with the browser in use at the time. Now, after reading this, I'm not so sure It'd be nice to get to the bottom of it and save having to refresh the page, if anyone has any ideas
Yep.....not using my 'pic' would help.....scaAAary stuff, you know, and more than enough to make any browser/throbber wanna go hide.
Reply #14 Wednesday, November 9, 2005 12:07 PM
| Hopefully Opera won't switch me to non-subscriber pages in the middle of a session like FireFox has |
I've had that happen to me on more than one occasion, on both Firefox and Opera. However, I put that down to a server error rather than something to do with the browser in use at the time. Now, after reading this, I'm not so sure
It'd be nice to get to the bottom of it and save having to refresh the page, if anyone has any ideas | No, I used Starker's |
| Any suggestions, anybody? |
Yep.....not using my 'pic' would help.....scaAAary stuff, you know, and more than enough to make any browser/throbber wanna go hide.
aimzzz
Reply #16 Wednesday, November 9, 2005 1:02 PM
Bichur
I haven't had any problem, but there have been a couple of updates since your install. I suggest uninstalling & updating
Here for version 8.5 http://www.opera.com/
or
Here for Opera 9.0 Preview 1 (beta) http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=108345
In this instance, I'd recommend the beta, but definitely uninstall & reboot if you go that route.
If you still have the problem, post again, or email me
nohownoway at earthlink dot net
Reply #16 Wednesday, November 9, 2005 1:02 PM
| Any suggestions, anybody? |
Bichur
I haven't had any problem, but there have been a couple of updates since your install. I suggest uninstalling & updating
Here for version 8.5 http://www.opera.com/
or
Here for Opera 9.0 Preview 1 (beta) http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=108345
In this instance, I'd recommend the beta, but definitely uninstall & reboot if you go that route.
If you still have the problem, post again, or email me
nohownoway at earthlink dot net
Bichur
Reply #17 Wednesday, November 9, 2005 1:41 PM
Reply #17 Wednesday, November 9, 2005 1:41 PM
thanks Aimzzz!
I'll give it a go when I get home.
(my employer's rules and restrictions have a valid purpose, my employer's rules and restrictions have valid purpose, my employer's rules and restrictions have a valid purpose....okay, better now.. )
I'll give it a go when I get home.
(my employer's rules and restrictions have a valid purpose, my employer's rules and restrictions have valid purpose, my employer's rules and restrictions have a valid purpose....okay, better now..
)
starkers
Reply #19 Thursday, November 10, 2005 2:50 AM
Reply #19 Thursday, November 10, 2005 2:50 AM
aimzzz....thanks for the link to Opera 9.0 beta, and the advice to uninstall and reboot first. That's my next job, and hopefully it resolves the issues for everyone.
joetheblow
Reply #20 Thursday, November 10, 2005 7:07 AM
Reply #20 Thursday, November 10, 2005 7:07 AM
Opera is the best, but I still use FireFox more and it will probably stay that way because I like the easy of installing plug-ins.
I don't know of Opera's customibility, but that would only make Opera better by leaps and bounds instaed of just leaps.
I don't know of Opera's customibility, but that would only make Opera better by leaps and bounds instaed of just leaps.
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Reply #1 Tuesday, November 8, 2005 11:22 PM