Is the Xbox 360 the second coming of Dreamcast
Console wars heating up again
Monday, November 7, 2005 by Frogboy | Discussion: WinCustomize News
1Up has a terrific article comparing the similarities and differences of Microsoft's upcoming Xbox 360 game console. Definitely worth the read! 
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scorpio-logic
Reply #2 Monday, November 7, 2005 2:12 AM
Reply #2 Monday, November 7, 2005 2:12 AM
I laffed a little, I nodded with acceptance but it didn't make me cry. Very interesting, though. 
joetheblow
Reply #3 Monday, November 7, 2005 3:01 AM
Reply #3 Monday, November 7, 2005 3:01 AM
I.... think.... that... is the most... crazy thing I have seen.
That is way WAY WAY too many simulatirites. When they said the same person running the marketing was the same person who ran it for Sega I stopped reading for a good minute trying to take it all in.
I still am getting the XBOX over the PS3 because the PS3 is just too expensive and wants to be everything AND a gaming system when all I want it a gaming system with some extra features.
So Microsoft gave up on Blu-Ray (or was it HD-DVD? I can't remember now)?
Did you guys look at simularity number 9?
I still think the XBOX will be better... mostly because Microsoft is putting billions into it and the gamins system is part of it multimedia plan (like plugging into XP Media OS and using WMP music files and codec)
Plus, the online features were very successful and the games they have for it are pretty good (not that Dreamcast didn't have good games... or did it? I can't remember... too busy playing on the Playstation to notice).
On page 2 (why the XBOX will last) the biggest most important differences are #1-4 (4 in piticular), 7 and 10.
#7 playing the biggest role... Halo 3? Its like people waiting for a movie blockbuster. If you think people buy iPods that cost 300 USD because its cool, they will buy a 300 USD gaming system to get Halo and some other games that are already classics out the gate. Final Fantasy? EA Sports? Project Gotham? OnLine Play? Intergration with Windows XP and even Windows VS?????
The PlayStation has allot of worry days ahead of it.
500 dollars for a gaming system... no exuse me... an entertainment system? Puh-leese. Sony (I'll bet a million pennies) will sell the PS3 for the same price as the XBOX with major losses per machine instead of selling it for 500.
PS3 is the better gaming system overall, but lets focus on gaming first. Look at what XBOX is doing. Gaming first, other stuff second.
That is way WAY WAY too many simulatirites. When they said the same person running the marketing was the same person who ran it for Sega I stopped reading for a good minute trying to take it all in.
I still am getting the XBOX over the PS3 because the PS3 is just too expensive and wants to be everything AND a gaming system when all I want it a gaming system with some extra features.
So Microsoft gave up on Blu-Ray (or was it HD-DVD? I can't remember now)?
Did you guys look at simularity number 9?
I still think the XBOX will be better... mostly because Microsoft is putting billions into it and the gamins system is part of it multimedia plan (like plugging into XP Media OS and using WMP music files and codec)
Plus, the online features were very successful and the games they have for it are pretty good (not that Dreamcast didn't have good games... or did it? I can't remember... too busy playing on the Playstation to notice).
On page 2 (why the XBOX will last) the biggest most important differences are #1-4 (4 in piticular), 7 and 10.
#7 playing the biggest role... Halo 3? Its like people waiting for a movie blockbuster. If you think people buy iPods that cost 300 USD because its cool, they will buy a 300 USD gaming system to get Halo and some other games that are already classics out the gate. Final Fantasy? EA Sports? Project Gotham? OnLine Play? Intergration with Windows XP and even Windows VS?????
The PlayStation has allot of worry days ahead of it.
500 dollars for a gaming system... no exuse me... an entertainment system? Puh-leese. Sony (I'll bet a million pennies) will sell the PS3 for the same price as the XBOX with major losses per machine instead of selling it for 500.
PS3 is the better gaming system overall, but lets focus on gaming first. Look at what XBOX is doing. Gaming first, other stuff second.
joetheblow
Reply #4 Monday, November 7, 2005 3:04 AM
Reply #4 Monday, November 7, 2005 3:04 AM
I.... think.... that... is the most... crazy thing I have seen.
That is way WAY WAY too many simulatirites. When they said the same person running the marketing was the same person who ran it for Sega I stopped reading for a good minute trying to take it all in.
I still am getting the XBOX over the PS3 because the PS3 is just too expensive and wants to be everything AND a gaming system when all I want it a gaming system with some extra features.
So Microsoft gave up on Blu-Ray (or was it HD-DVD? I can't remember now)?
Did you guys look at simularity number 9?
I still think the XBOX will be better... mostly because Microsoft is putting billions into it and the gamins system is part of it multimedia plan (like plugging into XP Media OS and using WMP music files and codec)
Plus, the online features were very successful and the games they have for it are pretty good (not that Dreamcast didn't have good games... or did it? I can't remember... too busy playing on the Playstation to notice).
On page 2 (why the XBOX will last) the biggest most important differences are #1-4 (4 in piticular), 7 and 10.
#7 playing the biggest role... Halo 3? Its like people waiting for a movie blockbuster. If you think people buy iPods that cost 300 USD because its cool, they will buy a 300 USD gaming system to get Halo and some other games that are already classics out the gate. Final Fantasy? EA Sports? Project Gotham? OnLine Play? Intergration with Windows XP and even Windows VS?????
The PlayStation has allot of worry days ahead of it.
500 dollars for a gaming system... no exuse me... an entertainment system? Puh-leese. Sony (I'll bet a million pennies) will sell the PS3 for the same price as the XBOX with major losses per machine instead of selling it for 500.
PS3 is the better gaming system overall, but lets focus on gaming first. Look at what XBOX is doing. Gaming first, other stuff second.
That is way WAY WAY too many simulatirites. When they said the same person running the marketing was the same person who ran it for Sega I stopped reading for a good minute trying to take it all in.
I still am getting the XBOX over the PS3 because the PS3 is just too expensive and wants to be everything AND a gaming system when all I want it a gaming system with some extra features.
So Microsoft gave up on Blu-Ray (or was it HD-DVD? I can't remember now)?
Did you guys look at simularity number 9?
I still think the XBOX will be better... mostly because Microsoft is putting billions into it and the gamins system is part of it multimedia plan (like plugging into XP Media OS and using WMP music files and codec)
Plus, the online features were very successful and the games they have for it are pretty good (not that Dreamcast didn't have good games... or did it? I can't remember... too busy playing on the Playstation to notice).
On page 2 (why the XBOX will last) the biggest most important differences are #1-4 (4 in piticular), 7 and 10.
#7 playing the biggest role... Halo 3? Its like people waiting for a movie blockbuster. If you think people buy iPods that cost 300 USD because its cool, they will buy a 300 USD gaming system to get Halo and some other games that are already classics out the gate. Final Fantasy? EA Sports? Project Gotham? OnLine Play? Intergration with Windows XP and even Windows VS?????
The PlayStation has allot of worry days ahead of it.
500 dollars for a gaming system... no exuse me... an entertainment system? Puh-leese. Sony (I'll bet a million pennies) will sell the PS3 for the same price as the XBOX with major losses per machine instead of selling it for 500.
PS3 is the better gaming system overall, but lets focus on gaming first. Look at what XBOX is doing. Gaming first, other stuff second.
sweetasman01
Reply #5 Monday, November 7, 2005 3:08 AM
Reply #5 Monday, November 7, 2005 3:08 AM
So is final fantasy XII going to be on exclusive on PS3, Xbox 2 or both? I have read it is exclusive on Xbox and PS3 so which is it 
?!!!
Thats what will deside it for me, i bought the PS2 because i wanted Final Fantasy X, and X-2 was a bonus. I know kingdom hearts 2 is on PS3 but it is not enough to sway me.
?!!!Thats what will deside it for me, i bought the PS2 because i wanted Final Fantasy X, and X-2 was a bonus. I know kingdom hearts 2 is on PS3 but it is not enough to sway me.
kona0197
Reply #6 Monday, November 7, 2005 3:23 AM
Reply #6 Monday, November 7, 2005 3:23 AM
I'll stick with PlayStation. XBOX sucks in my opinion. Another good thing is that Sony has a handheld - the PSP. MS dosen't. And yep PS has more games. 
cmw000
Reply #7 Monday, November 7, 2005 4:05 AM
Reply #7 Monday, November 7, 2005 4:05 AM
Half of those examples were contrived but I can give you proof, in five words, that not only will the Xbox 360 not flop, it will crush the PS3. Are you ready? Are you sure? Ok, here we go:
Bill. Gates. works. for. Microsoft. So suck on that.
Bill. Gates. works. for. Microsoft. So suck on that.
cmw000
Reply #8 Monday, November 7, 2005 4:08 AM
Reply #8 Monday, November 7, 2005 4:08 AM
Half of those examples were contrived but I can give you proof, in five words, that not only will the Xbox 360 not flop, it will crush the PS3. Are you ready? Are you sure? Ok, here we go:
Bill. Gates. works. for. Microsoft. So suck on that.
Bill. Gates. works. for. Microsoft. So suck on that.
cmw000
Reply #11 Monday, November 7, 2005 6:12 AM
Reply #11 Monday, November 7, 2005 6:12 AM
Good one. Either you know I'm right or you haven't noticed what a badass Bill Gates is.
joetheblow
Reply #12 Monday, November 7, 2005 6:25 AM
Reply #12 Monday, November 7, 2005 6:25 AM
whoops... triple post. there was some sort of time out when I posted before... saawweeee
Septimus
Reply #13 Monday, November 7, 2005 6:36 AM
Reply #13 Monday, November 7, 2005 6:36 AM
Really disappointed with the the few games I have played on 360. The alias is terrible when running at HDTV res. Will still get one as I pre-ordered over 5 months ago... just hope the next few generations are better.
As to the PS3, who knows how much its going to cost? You can't base whether or not you will buy it because of that! No-one knows. Not a hope in hell of 360 'crushing' PS3. It will definitely be far more competition than the XBOX ever was but I still believe it will lose out this generation, if only marginally.
Nintendo may yet suprise us also.
As to the PS3, who knows how much its going to cost? You can't base whether or not you will buy it because of that! No-one knows. Not a hope in hell of 360 'crushing' PS3. It will definitely be far more competition than the XBOX ever was but I still believe it will lose out this generation, if only marginally.
Nintendo may yet suprise us also.
sixshot
Reply #14 Monday, November 7, 2005 7:30 AM
Reply #14 Monday, November 7, 2005 7:30 AM
Bah... I still love my Dreamcast. VGA monitor output = awesome. Every game I have played with it, I have loved the experience with it. You cannot beat that. So what if you can output the 360 to HDTV? It's not the same as being able to hook it up to a common computer monitor and being able to view games in 480p. You tell me what's cheaper in terms of experience.
joetheblow
Reply #15 Monday, November 7, 2005 8:26 AM
Reply #15 Monday, November 7, 2005 8:26 AM
and yeah... Billy works for the m$... so what?
LOL
XBOX will be the better gaming pltform because of its focus on gaming, not being an entire entertainment system like the PS3. You should read all the junk they are putting in it.
Now, I'll change my mind if they sell it for 300 or even 350... but 500? Your out of your mind. I on't need a TV tuner on my gamin system
LOL
What the heck is that about?
Playstations only hope is a lower price point OR letting the PS3 be a gaming system and let the PSP be the entertainment system... you see the PSP has more potential of having all the add-ons that they want to put on the PS3.
Put it on the PSP and let the PSP connect to the PS3. Now you have WiFi, FM Radiao... maybe even XM Satelite, and organizer, Yahoo or AIM IM systems, web browsing.
I see what they want to do, but the cost is too high and I don't think people are reay for a gaming systems that doe s all of that... but a portable.? been ready for that. Apple made the way clear, now all Sony has to do is make the PSP do it all except make phone calls... and it might do that too with Yahoo messenger on it (VOIP).
What do you think? PS3 need to drop all of that crap and focus on gaming?
LOL
XBOX will be the better gaming pltform because of its focus on gaming, not being an entire entertainment system like the PS3. You should read all the junk they are putting in it.
Now, I'll change my mind if they sell it for 300 or even 350... but 500? Your out of your mind. I on't need a TV tuner on my gamin system
LOL
What the heck is that about?
Playstations only hope is a lower price point OR letting the PS3 be a gaming system and let the PSP be the entertainment system... you see the PSP has more potential of having all the add-ons that they want to put on the PS3.
Put it on the PSP and let the PSP connect to the PS3. Now you have WiFi, FM Radiao... maybe even XM Satelite, and organizer, Yahoo or AIM IM systems, web browsing.
I see what they want to do, but the cost is too high and I don't think people are reay for a gaming systems that doe s all of that... but a portable.? been ready for that. Apple made the way clear, now all Sony has to do is make the PSP do it all except make phone calls... and it might do that too with Yahoo messenger on it (VOIP).
What do you think? PS3 need to drop all of that crap and focus on gaming?
Septimus
Reply #16 Monday, November 7, 2005 8:46 AM
Reply #16 Monday, November 7, 2005 8:46 AM
X360 is just as guilty of not concentrating on gaming. Have you seen all the enterainment centre stuff that comes with 360?
RoBsTeR777
Reply #18 Monday, November 7, 2005 9:24 AM
Reply #18 Monday, November 7, 2005 9:24 AM
Well the article still scared me at first. I was like OH - NO. After I shelled out over a GRAND for the BUNDLE Package!! 
I also had the dreamcast and Loved it but the games stopped coming!
Glad to see the article had a UP SWING! but the Title snagged me - made me nervous as hell!
l8r
I also had the dreamcast and Loved it but the games stopped coming!
Glad to see the article had a UP SWING! but the Title snagged me - made me nervous as hell!
l8r
Island Dog
Reply #19 Monday, November 7, 2005 10:55 AM
Reply #19 Monday, November 7, 2005 10:55 AM
| I still am getting the XBOX over the PS3 because the PS3 is just too expensive and wants to be everything AND a gaming system when all I want it a gaming system with some extra features. |
I don't believe the PS3 price has been set yet. Also, do you believe the XBox 360 is just a "gaming system"?
| When combined with a Media Center enabled PC and a wireless connection, the Extender Kit lets Xbox owners easily transmit and access entertainment data stored on their PCs on the console. Users can browse, find, and listen to digital music (thanks to built-in Napster support), look at photos, watch TV and shows recorded on the PC, and access DVDs, utilizing the standard Windows Media Center user interface. In practice, this means one user can watch TV on the Media Center PC in the living room, while another watches a recorded movie using the Xbox Media Center Extender Kit in another room. Up to five different instances of the Media Center interface can run simultaneously. |
kona0197
Reply #20 Monday, November 7, 2005 1:23 PM
Reply #20 Monday, November 7, 2005 1:23 PM
Joe I have a PSP and it has an internet browser and connects through wifi.
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Reply #1 Monday, November 7, 2005 2:10 AM