What are the advantages of IE?
Saturday, November 5, 2005 by Cyberworld | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
Hey..just got Mozilla Firefox and i think i'll switch to it after i get my DSL connection...it has lots and lots of goodies and helpful plug-ins,tabbed view of webpages,supports Java and Macromedia...it's totally free! What more could i ask...kinda makes me wonder...what are the advantages of Internet Explorer? What is it that Mozilla doesn't support that IE does? Any of you know? 
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Corky_O
Reply #2 Saturday, November 5, 2005 11:10 PM
Reply #2 Saturday, November 5, 2005 11:10 PM
I use IE, simply for three reasons:
1 - It is already installed, so no need to add more programs
2 - It just works for me
3 - WindowBlinds can skin it, and add custom toolbar icons, which is a program I already use
I like things simple where ever possible. 
Cyberworld
Reply #3 Sunday, November 6, 2005 3:59 AM
Good point,although Firefox comes with skins.
Well it seems i haven't been using it much cause i didn't get this yet...
Reply #3 Sunday, November 6, 2005 3:59 AM
| 3 - WindowBlinds can skin it, and add custom toolbar icons, which is a program I already use |
Good point,although Firefox comes with skins.
| Firefox has trouble rendering web pages that are not written to the strictest of rules |
Well it seems i haven't been using it much cause i didn't get this yet...
indigonecro
Reply #4 Sunday, November 6, 2005 4:27 AM
Reply #4 Sunday, November 6, 2005 4:27 AM
I can't relate. I use Opera.
Opera also has skins (not as many as firefox)
Customization (not as much as firefox)
Add ins (not as many as firefox)
But, advantage is it tends to be more forgiving on the coding and loads pages as deemed Only IE whereas FireFox can't.. All depends on your usuages for the browser, the functionality you want and the sites you visit.
I'd personally prefer visiting sites via telepathy, but that's not possible yet. (Microsoft might make it available in the version after Vista).
Basically, keep your options open and don't stick to one browser if you wish to defy IE.
Opera also has skins (not as many as firefox)
Customization (not as much as firefox)
Add ins (not as many as firefox)
But, advantage is it tends to be more forgiving on the coding and loads pages as deemed Only IE whereas FireFox can't.. All depends on your usuages for the browser, the functionality you want and the sites you visit.
I'd personally prefer visiting sites via telepathy, but that's not possible yet. (Microsoft might make it available in the version after Vista).
Basically, keep your options open and don't stick to one browser if you wish to defy IE.
indigonecro
Reply #6 Sunday, November 6, 2005 5:37 AM
Very good suggestion kona0197. IE7 seems to be a bit more functional to deter away a need for another browser. But, for now it's still in Beta. Hopefully, the final version will actually provide enough customization and functionality to be worth while as a primary browser to those whom demand those features.
Reply #6 Sunday, November 6, 2005 5:37 AM
| Try IE7 when it comes out. |
Very good suggestion kona0197. IE7 seems to be a bit more functional to deter away a need for another browser. But, for now it's still in Beta. Hopefully, the final version will actually provide enough customization and functionality to be worth while as a primary browser to those whom demand those features.
Cyberworld
Reply #7 Sunday, November 6, 2005 10:46 AM
ANy info as to when it does come out...
Reply #7 Sunday, November 6, 2005 10:46 AM
| Try IE7 when it comes out. |
ANy info as to when it does come out...
Jhalel
Reply #8 Sunday, November 6, 2005 12:51 PM
Reply #8 Sunday, November 6, 2005 12:51 PM
I must say, I agree with all the comments here. I am fortunate enough to be able to use IE7 and can comment on it. I used to use Firefox about 90% of the time because of the way it handled downloads, the ability to clear out browsing files from the menu of the browser, and lastly, tabbed pages. Now, with IE7 I rarely use Firefox because IE7 includes all of the functionality I preferred in Firefox. This was enough for me to start using IE exclusively since these were the only functions previously missing from IE that encouraged me to use Firefox.
Lantec
Reply #9 Sunday, November 6, 2005 1:13 PM
If I'm not mistaken one of the requirements of the MS Monopoly settlement was that they would not be able to bundle the browser (IE7) with their next Windows release.....which would be Vista.
Reply #9 Sunday, November 6, 2005 1:13 PM
| I use IE, simply for three reasons: 1 - It is already installed, so no need to add more programs |
If I'm not mistaken one of the requirements of the MS Monopoly settlement was that they would not be able to bundle the browser (IE7) with their next Windows release.....which would be Vista.
Cyberworld
Reply #10 Monday, November 7, 2005 4:41 AM
Reply #10 Monday, November 7, 2005 4:41 AM
So IE7 is a much promising browser...can't wait for it...
Island Dog
Reply #11 Monday, November 7, 2005 10:59 AM
Reply #11 Monday, November 7, 2005 10:59 AM
Yes, IE7 is coming out with new innovative ideas such as tabbed browsing.
Hankers
Reply #12 Monday, November 7, 2005 11:02 AM
Does 'innovative' mean the same as 'about time'
Reply #12 Monday, November 7, 2005 11:02 AM
| Yes, IE7 is coming out with new innovative ideas such as tabbed browsing. |
Does 'innovative' mean the same as 'about time'
MAMu from MAMEICONS
Reply #13 Monday, November 7, 2005 3:08 PM
Reply #13 Monday, November 7, 2005 3:08 PM
Also things that IE does that Mozilla/Firefox don't:
-Custom scroll bar colors, lots of designer/webmaster like to customize the scrolling browser bars to their page color (ie mameicons, my site (+4000 handmade Arcades .ico), retrogames, etc), IE will display these, FF won't are these are not 'officially' W3C Html code, submitted, but never accepted....
-As another user said, Firefox is really too strict: if a webmaster does a common error such as using / rather than \ in a link (or inverse, see how it can be confusing ^^), the link will send a 404 with ff, it will work with np with IE.. even if this can seem stupid, some Microsoft software save to html pages with these errors included!)
-Lots of Javascript, or other tricks and scripts, working nicely with IE, won't with FF or Moz, or Netscape, see some javascripts sites and check wich one work for IE only, IE and partially Firefox, or both.... you can check (in french) l'editeur java to see what i mean, in the image scripts section in exemple...
But mainly what IE has that firefox hasn't
(or really very less): security problems 
that's usually the 1st reason why ppl using firefox prefer it to IE... 
-Custom scroll bar colors, lots of designer/webmaster like to customize the scrolling browser bars to their page color (ie mameicons, my site (+4000 handmade Arcades .ico), retrogames, etc), IE will display these, FF won't are these are not 'officially' W3C Html code, submitted, but never accepted....
-As another user said, Firefox is really too strict: if a webmaster does a common error such as using / rather than \ in a link (or inverse, see how it can be confusing ^^), the link will send a 404 with ff, it will work with np with IE.. even if this can seem stupid, some Microsoft software save to html pages with these errors included!)
-Lots of Javascript, or other tricks and scripts, working nicely with IE, won't with FF or Moz, or Netscape, see some javascripts sites and check wich one work for IE only, IE and partially Firefox, or both.... you can check (in french) l'editeur java to see what i mean, in the image scripts section in exemple...
But mainly what IE has that firefox hasn't
(or really very less): security problems 
that's usually the 1st reason why ppl using firefox prefer it to IE... 
scorpio-logic
Reply #14 Monday, November 7, 2005 3:28 PM
ditto, Corko.
IE can be hardened, you just have to know what to tweak to get the security that you want. All browsers are vulnerable, just that more "cracker-hackers" like to mess with Bill's precious Windows.
Reply #14 Monday, November 7, 2005 3:28 PM
| I use IE, simply for three reasons: 1 - It is already installed, so no need to add more programs 2 - It just works for me 3 - WindowBlinds can skin it, and add custom toolbar icons, which is a program I already use I like things simple where ever possible. |
ditto, Corko.
| But mainly what IE has that firefox hasn't (or really very less): security problems that's usually the 1st reason why ppl using firefox prefer it to IE... |
IE can be hardened, you just have to know what to tweak to get the security that you want. All browsers are vulnerable, just that more "cracker-hackers" like to mess with Bill's precious Windows.
PurrBall
Reply #15 Monday, November 7, 2005 3:41 PM
Reply #15 Monday, November 7, 2005 3:41 PM
I have IE7 Beta 1.
Basically all of the end features are mostly there. The only good thing is the Tabbed browsing, the phishing is OK.
Not enough to make me switch to it from FF.
My answer: There are none. I do not use WU, and pages always render beautifully, if not better.
Basically all of the end features are mostly there. The only good thing is the Tabbed browsing, the phishing is OK.
Not enough to make me switch to it from FF.
My answer: There are none. I do not use WU, and pages always render beautifully, if not better.
Cyberworld
Reply #16 Monday, November 7, 2005 5:39 PM
I'll agree with that. Browsers are meant to be light-weight programs,not some kind of heavy armor tank!
Out of curiosity how much sys resources does IE use and how much does FF?
Reply #16 Monday, November 7, 2005 5:39 PM
| IE can be hardened |
I'll agree with that. Browsers are meant to be light-weight programs,not some kind of heavy armor tank!
Out of curiosity how much sys resources does IE use and how much does FF?
Chris TH
Reply #17 Monday, November 7, 2005 7:22 PM
My impression was that certain sites use non-standard IE-specific coding that other browsers (not just Firefox) have trouble rendering because they adhere the the standard... ?
Reply #17 Monday, November 7, 2005 7:22 PM
| Firefox has trouble rendering web pages that are not written to the strictest of rules, |
My impression was that certain sites use non-standard IE-specific coding that other browsers (not just Firefox) have trouble rendering because they adhere the the standard... ?
Lantec
Reply #18 Monday, November 7, 2005 7:41 PM
Reply #18 Monday, November 7, 2005 7:41 PM
You can have the best (well almost) of both worlds with Maxthon. Maxthon uses the IE engine but has all the extras already included like tabbed browsing. Over the years I've used Netcsape, IE, Maxthon, Firefox and Opera. I'm still using Opera 8.02 and I have no intentions of changing anytime soon.
Gregory2001
Reply #19 Monday, November 7, 2005 7:43 PM
Reply #19 Monday, November 7, 2005 7:43 PM
If you use Opera, you will have none of the problems of IE or Firefox.
Corky_O
Reply #20 Monday, November 7, 2005 9:34 PM
Reply #20 Monday, November 7, 2005 9:34 PM
| If I'm not mistaken one of the requirements of the MS Monopoly settlement was that they would not be able to bundle the browser (IE7) with their next Windows release |
Not sure on that one, I have heard both now - Vista will include IE7, Vista will not include IE7.
For my part, it would seem that the OS is incomplete without an internet browser - sort of like creating a car without including the ability to drive at highway speeds.
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Reply #1 Saturday, November 5, 2005 10:45 PM