WinCustomize: What happens next

The plan for WinCustomize's future

Monday, October 31, 2005 by Frogboy | Discussion: WinCustomize News

Overall Philosophy

WinCustomize.com is a website whose goals are to promote a skinning community as well as help support content being created and shared that is for use with Stardock's software. Over the years, WinCustomize.com's popularity has grown immensely.  By October of 2005, it had reached a staggering 25 million monthly visitors.  Because the site focuses largely on the downloading of skins, themes, icons, and wallpapers, the bandwidth expenses for the site are enormous.  In addition, as the site has tried to sustain a feeling of community as opposed to being merely a glorified FTP site, the expense in running the site has grown due to the need to bring in and coordinate increasing numbers of file, SQL, and scripting servers. 

In its present state, Stardock pays for the cost of WinCustomize that isn't covered by advertising revenue and WinCustomize subscriptions.  WinCustomize is a very valuable asset of Stardock and the community that it supports means a lot to the the people who work at Stardock.  Stardock is a privately held company so its motivations are not necessarily driven by maximizing profit (in other words, making money isn't the only goal).

However, while WinCustomize's importance to Stardock is immense, it is not infinite.  Simply put, the cost of running WinCustomize has outstripped Stardock's ability to sustain it.  Of the 25 million visitors each month, over 3 million of them are "unique" (i.e. different people).  Obviously, most of those users aren't Stardock customers in any form.  To make WinCustomize viable, the model under which is operates needs to evolve.  It is clear that a subscription drive isn't going to be enough.  The October subscription drive managed to bring in less than 1,000 people -- many of whom were existing subscribers who re-subscribed.  In essence, of a website that gets over 3 million different people visiting, it would seem that our "hard core" community of users is probably less (guessing) than a few thousand.  In other words, the "community" of users is still relatively small which isn't necessarily all bad.

Over the coming months, users will see a gradual evolution of the site designed to increase revenue coming into the site.  Most of the effort will come from increasing advertising revenue. The rest will come from encouraging subscriptions and providing financial rewards to skin authors.

Users who have Object Desktop will become distinct from users who have simply purchased a product.  Object Desktop users will not have full WinCustomize subscription status but they will have unlimited downloads.  Those who have purchased a given product (such as WindowBlinds or IconPackager) will have unlimited downloads in their corresponding product but not in other areas.  The biggest change an Object Desktop user will see is that some skins will be marked as subscriber-only for the first 30 days and those skins will be part of the normal gallery.  Otherwise, things will be essentially the same.

The biggest changes for users who haven't purchased is that the site will have a lot more advertising on it and there will be a much greater push for users to create an account.

User Classes

Classes of users:

0: People who do not have accounts.

1: People who have created an account but have no subscription and have not purchased a product. Accounts are free to create.

2: People who have purchased a product or subscription in the past but are currently not active customers

3: People who are active customers (purchased a product in the past year).

4: People who have an active Object Desktop account.

5: People who have a WinCustomize Platinum Subscription.

Users with Apprentice Access to Master Apprentice will have the equivalent of Group 4.  Users with Journeyman access on up will have the equivalent of group 5. Users with Contributor access will have the equivalent of Group 2.

Access Privileges:

Group 0 users will not be able to download skins and themes that are 0 days old.  They will only be able to download 10 megabytes of other skins & themes.  The number of ads they see will be akin to what people see on other sites -- in other words quite a bit.  They will be designed to bypass the various ad-blocking programs (Stardock, after all, is a software developer, we can get around this stuff if we put effort into it).

Group 1 users will be able to download up to 50 megabytes of skins and themes without having to purchase something or contribute something. They will see a lot of ads but not quite as much as group 0. Still quite a bit more than they see today.  The number of ads these users see will grow based on the # of megabytes they download.  At first, a group 1 user would see about the same # of ads as group 2 but then it would steadily increase.  The system will also be updated to make it more difficult to bypass.

Group 2 users will be able to download up to 500 megabytes of skins and themes of the product they had bought and 50 megabytes elsewhere without having to purchase something or contribute something. Otherwise they are the same as group 1.

Group 3 users will be able to download an unlimited amount of content in the product they've purchased plus 100 megabytes elsewhere. They don't see quite as much ads as group 2.

Group 4 users will be able to download an unlimited amount of content. They see fewer ads. They get personal pages.

Group 5 users will be able to download premium skins. They see no ads. They have unlimited downloads. They get the WinCustomize skin browser. They get to download subscriber-only skins. Their posts, comments, etc. will have a graphic by them indicating that they are a subscriber.

New Features

Contributor Access.  Anyone who submits a skin, theme, icon, wallpaper that gets made public is automatically promoted to Contributor level. They automatically gain new privileges on the site.

Subscriber-Only Skins. When a user who has Master access or higher submits a skin, a checkbox will appear that will indicate whether it is only available for subscribers or not.  If checked, the skin is only available for subscribers for 30 days after its original create date (updates don't count).  Eventually, skinners will be able to have a special link to their Affiliate page (if exists) https://www.stardock.com/affiliates.asp that if the person buys a subscription from their link the skin author will receive 20% of the revenue.

Long Term Goal

In the near-term, we want to get the site to be financially viable.  A site with the level of visitation that WinCustomize currently has should have at least 3 full-time people dedicated to it with another 3 who provide help part-time (speaking in terms of web design, database development, ASP development, server management, community support, etc.).  The site also needs at least 3 more servers which is where the money from the subscription drive is largely going to go towards. 

Once revenue is more balanced under the current system through the changes we mentioned above, Stardock will hire people who will work on WinCustomize full-time to help support subscribers and the community in general.  Some people have noted how much of a difference just having one person providing community support in the forums recently.  Having people assigned to work on the site could make a big difference and help the site evolve into a place that isn't just a first-rate community but a place where skinners and artists can financially benefit from their work as well.

So the site isn't going to become some subscriber-only site.  There will be a few more limits on non-subscribers and those without accounts or haven't purchased anything will start to see a lot mroe ads.  But hopefully over time these changes will be enough to tilt the mighty ship on course.  When you're dealing with millions of people each month, you only have to make changes that make a slight effect.   Supporting the site can mean everything from buying a subscription to supporting our advertisers by visiting their sites through their ads to of course creating skins, themes, icons, wallpapers, etc. as well as participating on our forums and comments areas.

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scorpio-logic
Reply #21 Tuesday, November 1, 2005 1:44 AM
Just to test my privileges, I logged out while using WC browser and there were bunches of ads, so I did the obvious and logged back in.
elvee
Reply #22 Tuesday, November 1, 2005 1:51 AM
Great plan!
indigonecro
Reply #23 Tuesday, November 1, 2005 2:08 AM
Just to test my privileges, I logged out while using WC browser and there were bunches of ads, so I did the obvious and logged back in.


Lol. I wouldn't have made the initial log-out Scorpio to even check, I'd fear seeing enough ads to make my ears bleed. Lol I wouldn't want to be a non-subscriber or non-stardock software purchaser these days after the new changes are fully implemented.

Just some food for though. "Leechers" it looks like now you have your answer as to what will happen.. Wonder how many of you will subscribe or purchase stardock products and how many will leave? Guess we'll find out.
aufisch
Reply #24 Tuesday, November 1, 2005 2:14 AM
I completely agree with and support these changes Brad! They are well constructed and will not change the face of WC too much overnight.

Posted via WinCustomize Browser/Stardock Central
brassblaster
Reply #25 Tuesday, November 1, 2005 2:50 AM
Works for me.
I'm not a designer by any stretch, but I appreciate good work when I see it. That's why I subscribe and have Object Desktop. I don't like to get something for nothing if there is skill and time involved. It's only right to pay an artist for his/her work.
'nuff said.
Island Dog
Reply #26 Tuesday, November 1, 2005 3:38 AM

Great job.

InfamousTaipan
Reply #27 Tuesday, November 1, 2005 4:11 AM
Confession time.....I have been a leech....a big leech....even to the extent of more than one user account with different email addresses....
But no-longer....I feel cleansed...
A wincustomize subscriber as of yesterday....I was really hoping to be the 2,000 subscriber in the new drive, that's why I had waited till the end of the month, however I think I was number 889.
In many year online this is the first and ony site I've subscribed to...and am delighted to have had to...
Great work here from all the contributors (their quality scares me off), but I am gonna try to add someting one day.
Best wishes to your all....I now feel a part of it
Cheers
Erk.
Reply #28 Tuesday, November 1, 2005 4:34 AM
however I think I was number 889


Must've been right after my subscription renewal ....I got 888
MohsinNaqi
Reply #29 Tuesday, November 1, 2005 4:38 AM
well thout-out... ummm and yeah go ahead I'd have unlimited downloads and a userpage
fasterus
Reply #30 Tuesday, November 1, 2005 4:46 AM
What!!! - NO Sweatshirt or at least BB cap?-
RokN
Reply #31 Tuesday, November 1, 2005 4:51 AM
This is clearly one of the best approaches I have seen. Unlike other sites where they just shut down the forums without any word. Good implementation, good job.

Posted via WinCustomize Browser/Stardock Central
TexasJoe
Reply #32 Tuesday, November 1, 2005 5:20 AM
Group 2 users will be able to download up to 500 megabytes of skins and themes without having to purchase something or contribute something. Otherwise they are the same as group 1.
Group 3 users will be able to download an unlimited amount of content in the product they've purchased plus 100 megabytes elsewhere. They don't see quite as much ads as group 2.


It seems to me - though I may be wrong - that Level 2 users get more than level 3. I'm talking about the "100 MB elsewhere": I would either crank that up or lower the 500 MB cap that Level 2 users have. I don't know, what do y'all think?
All the other ideas presented sound like the fairest way to keep Wincustomize open!
indigonecro
Reply #33 Tuesday, November 1, 2005 5:38 AM
Confession time.....I have been a leech....a big leech....even to the extent of more than one user account with different email addresses....
But no-longer....I feel cleansed...
A wincustomize subscriber as of yesterday....I was really hoping to be the 2,000 subscriber in the new drive, that's why I had waited till the end of the month, however I think I was number 889.
In many year online this is the first and ony site I've subscribed to...and am delighted to have had to...
Great work here from all the contributors (their quality scares me off), but I am gonna try to add someting one day.
Best wishes to your all....I now feel a part of it
Cheers


InfamousTaipan,

This is clearly a proud day in the community. At least, I view it that way. You admitted to being a leech to some extent. And then you saw what WinCustomize.com actually had to offer and proceeded to becoming a subscriber at the best skinning and community site on the net. Very good! I'm proud of you. Now, if we could only get others to change their minds as well.

BTW, InfamousTaipan, This is also the only website that I subscribe to. If they managed to get my $19.95 I don't see why they had to implement these changes to convert others. But, too late now. The leechers must be restricted.
treetog
Reply #34 Tuesday, November 1, 2005 5:45 AM

Brad,

I saw everything and I must to say that I agree with every single point. You have 100% of my support. GO! GO!

Jafo
Reply #35 Tuesday, November 1, 2005 5:53 AM

OK...enough is enough....I can't take it any longer.....treetog needs a haircut...

There....I said it....

neophil78
Reply #36 Tuesday, November 1, 2005 6:16 AM
OK...enough is enough....I can't take it any longer.....treetog needs a haircut...


and maybe a shaving too
Beesley
Reply #37 Tuesday, November 1, 2005 7:00 AM
joining the consensus, I agree & support every decision & change being made . . . very well put together & planned out . . . good stuff . . .

I do have one suggestion as a method to possibly bring in more revenue (although it would be just as workable for Stardock products as for Wincustomize): any possibility of some clothing? These days with all the "personalized" t-shirts that you see from American clothing stores like "Hot Topic" or "Urban Outfitters" (sorry, I'm not sure what's available in the rest of the world), I think they'd go over great. I, for one, would probably get a couple of t's & a hat. With all of the design giftings that this community, and it's owners/employees, possess, there should be some REALLY kickin' graphic ideas for a Wincustomize.com t-shirt or an object desktop or windowblinds t-shirt.
Just an idea.
NightTrainthedark
Reply #38 Tuesday, November 1, 2005 7:08 AM
Jafo
Reply #39 Tuesday, November 1, 2005 7:20 AM

I do have one suggestion as a method to possibly bring in more revenue (although it would be just as workable for Stardock products as for Wincustomize): any possibility of some clothing?

I have a Stardock shirt....it's my favourite shirt....[sad, innit?]

The same animal, albeit a 'Wincustomize.com shirt'....it'd sell....definitely.....

NightTrainthedark
Reply #40 Tuesday, November 1, 2005 7:27 AM
The same animal, albeit a 'Wincustomize.com shirt'....it'd sell....definitely


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