ATI vs. nVidia
Which GPUs are beter? And why?
Friday, September 9, 2005 by SlimSpaceman | Discussion: Video Cards
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Dracil
Reply #2 Friday, September 9, 2005 4:43 AM
Reply #2 Friday, September 9, 2005 4:43 AM
Nvidia 6+, just for the 3.0 pixel shaders.
Look at all the ATI people complaining about AOE3.
Look at all the ATI people complaining about AOE3.
DRavisher
Reply #3 Friday, September 9, 2005 5:22 AM
Reply #3 Friday, September 9, 2005 5:22 AM
nVidia: Better features. People with R400 are starting to feel the lack of SM3.0 and 16 bit FP plending for HDR. And now it seems that ATis answer to G70 will come more than a quarter after nVidias release.
Corky_O
Reply #4 Friday, September 9, 2005 6:56 AM
Reply #4 Friday, September 9, 2005 6:56 AM
All reviews I have seen currently rate the 6800GT chipset above the Radeon 850 series chipsets.
The nVidia 7800 is fairly new, so I don't think all reports are in yet.
I personally could not afford to spend the kind of money it would take for any of these, and went with the ATI X700 Pro 256 MB AGP adapter - and am really happy with it for both 2D and 3D.
The cost was right at $199, and I am not a gamer (or over-clocker) - so no real pushing the limit other than programs like Painter IX, Poser 5, and Bryce 5.5 - which are all RAM intensive and also work much better with higher end video support features.
The nVidia 7800 is fairly new, so I don't think all reports are in yet.
I personally could not afford to spend the kind of money it would take for any of these, and went with the ATI X700 Pro 256 MB AGP adapter - and am really happy with it for both 2D and 3D.
The cost was right at $199, and I am not a gamer (or over-clocker) - so no real pushing the limit other than programs like Painter IX, Poser 5, and Bryce 5.5 - which are all RAM intensive and also work much better with higher end video support features.
Kevin_C
Reply #5 Friday, September 9, 2005 8:19 AM
Reply #5 Friday, September 9, 2005 8:19 AM
Well, I've not used an ATI card in quite a long time as I'm an nVidia fan through and through..
I currently have the Leadtek WinFast A400GT TDH (GeForce 6800 GT).. Quite a long product name there.
But since I haven't upgraded my computer in around 2 years I just yesterday bit the bullet so to speak and bought this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814122229
We'll see how the performance is when I get it in..
I currently have the Leadtek WinFast A400GT TDH (GeForce 6800 GT).. Quite a long product name there.
But since I haven't upgraded my computer in around 2 years I just yesterday bit the bullet so to speak and bought this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814122229
We'll see how the performance is when I get it in..
2badmice
Reply #7 Friday, September 9, 2005 10:28 AM
Reply #7 Friday, September 9, 2005 10:28 AM
nVidia without a shadow of a doubt, currently using 7800 GTX SLI and it's the biz
Lantec
Reply #8 Friday, September 9, 2005 11:46 AM
How true.
ATI Mobility Radeon X600
Reply #8 Friday, September 9, 2005 11:46 AM
| On laptops, ATI. Try to find an nVidia laptop. |
How true.
ATI Mobility Radeon X600
SlimSpaceman
Reply #9 Friday, September 9, 2005 12:56 PM
In my laptop I got nVidia GeForce FX5200 Go 64mb 4X AGP...
Reply #9 Friday, September 9, 2005 12:56 PM
| On laptops, ATI. Try to find an nVidia laptop. |
In my laptop I got nVidia GeForce FX5200 Go 64mb 4X AGP...
DRavisher
Reply #10 Friday, September 9, 2005 1:17 PM
Reply #10 Friday, September 9, 2005 1:17 PM
nVidia still has the best mobile GPU though. The GeForce Go 6800 ultra. But below this i agree that ATi rules the laptops.
Hus
Reply #11 Friday, September 9, 2005 2:42 PM
Reply #11 Friday, September 9, 2005 2:42 PM
If we learned anything from the original Radeon, ATI can overcome what nVidia puts out. Their newest chipset (R520, iirc) is supposed to be blazingly fast. Also in ATI's near future, is Crossfire, their version of SLI, which from what I've read about it, is supposed to simply DOUBLE whatever your performance is. So if you get 13,000 on 3DMark, with a second ATI card, you will get 26,000. Whether or not this is all true is yet to be seen...but I'm betting ATI blows away nVidia with their next line of cards. As of right now though, I'll admit...the 7800 series is easily top dog.
gmoneykyo
Reply #12 Friday, September 9, 2005 2:54 PM
Reply #12 Friday, September 9, 2005 2:54 PM
I've found ATI to be far superior to nVidia over the computers I've had.
In my current desktop I have a Sapphire Radeon 9800 Pro or something (128Mb) and in my iBook, I have an ATI Mobility Radeon.
In my current desktop I have a Sapphire Radeon 9800 Pro or something (128Mb) and in my iBook, I have an ATI Mobility Radeon.
DRavisher
Reply #13 Friday, September 9, 2005 3:23 PM
Reply #13 Friday, September 9, 2005 3:23 PM
Well, we must remember that nVidia was a bit surprised that ATi came up with a good design (the R300 and R400 are the same thing, just tweaked). ATi bought the basis for R300 from ArtX (ATi has yet to release a competitive product that they developed in house). R520 is supposed to be 'new', so it will be exciting to see what they come up with. But as a result of the surprise that was R300, many people think that ATi can always top nVidia, that it is simply a law of nature.
And on a side note: R520 SOULD be better than G70, since it is coming more than one quarter later, which is quite a long time in this business. And many reports suggest that the R520 part that will be able to beat the 7800GTX will be a new PE (phantom edition), meaning that consumers will have to wait for several months before they can actually buy them.
And on a side note: R520 SOULD be better than G70, since it is coming more than one quarter later, which is quite a long time in this business. And many reports suggest that the R520 part that will be able to beat the 7800GTX will be a new PE (phantom edition), meaning that consumers will have to wait for several months before they can actually buy them.
Phoon
Reply #14 Friday, September 9, 2005 5:47 PM
It's always a cat and mouse game. After ATI comes out with bigger and badder, Nvidia will follow up with something else that beats ATI.
I lost my taste for ATI after purchasing a tuner card which clearly said it would work on XP and failed to deliver. ATI would offer no support. Therefore, I choose to not support ATI by purchasing their products any longer.
Reply #14 Friday, September 9, 2005 5:47 PM
| I'm betting ATI blows away nVidia with their next line of cards |
It's always a cat and mouse game. After ATI comes out with bigger and badder, Nvidia will follow up with something else that beats ATI.
I lost my taste for ATI after purchasing a tuner card which clearly said it would work on XP and failed to deliver. ATI would offer no support. Therefore, I choose to not support ATI by purchasing their products any longer.
tjesterb
Reply #15 Friday, September 9, 2005 6:43 PM
Reply #15 Friday, September 9, 2005 6:43 PM
My ATI has always worked great for me. My friends with nVidia cards always seem to have to find new drivers whenever they get a new game.
Action_Jay
Reply #16 Friday, September 9, 2005 7:51 PM
Reply #16 Friday, September 9, 2005 7:51 PM
I'm on my third Radeon (first was a 7500, then 9200SE, now 9600 AIW) and still see the cards as great workhorses. I don't have major problems when I come across a 'made for nVidia' game, but the whole idea that you can't get 100% compatibility without buying a card from each manufacturer kinda irks me. What is this, the 90s era browser wars?
iTZKooPA
Reply #17 Friday, September 9, 2005 8:10 PM
Reply #17 Friday, September 9, 2005 8:10 PM
They bounce back and forth all the time, its not a permanent thing, just which is better at the given moment IMO.
The problem for most people is which is best for $x?
The problem for most people is which is best for $x?
gfcentral002
Reply #18 Friday, September 9, 2005 10:59 PM
Reply #18 Friday, September 9, 2005 10:59 PM
i like nVidia - i currently have BFG Geforce 6200 OC 256mb (agp) - and i love how it works. i like it better than ATI (which i used too so i dunno - personal preference)
EventHorizon
Reply #19 Saturday, September 10, 2005 5:46 PM
Reply #19 Saturday, September 10, 2005 5:46 PM
Ive got a 6800GT... Lets just say 'it pwnz all.'
kona0197
Reply #20 Sunday, September 11, 2005 1:27 AM
Except for the new Gforce 7 cards coming out...
Reply #20 Sunday, September 11, 2005 1:27 AM
| Ive got a 6800GT... Lets just say 'it pwnz all.' |
Except for the new Gforce 7 cards coming out...
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Reply #1 Friday, September 9, 2005 3:47 AM