Is TSF "Special"
Thursday, September 1, 2005 by kith | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
I really hope and Admin or Mod could explain why only the TSF is allowed to link out submissions. Is any other author on this site afforded that privilege. I know WC is not so desperate for new submissions to bend the rules for one business that fronts as a skin author. I say we hold TSF to the same standard as all the members of this site. That is of course unless they are special.
Thanks,
kith
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Reply #2 Thursday, September 1, 2005 6:58 PM
Reply #3 Thursday, September 1, 2005 7:03 PM
| Has anybody else ever done the "link to another page" thing? |
I use it all the time to display screenshots uploaded at imageshack. Or would that be considered different?
Personally, I don't chase after his stuff. To commercial for my tastes.
Reply #5 Thursday, September 1, 2005 7:12 PM
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Reply #8 Thursday, September 1, 2005 9:08 PM
I just clicked a lot of download links for Pix skins and they all seem to be hosted on this server.... even the Zippo and nVidia stuff in the proper formats at that!!!
If you have a link please post it, or any other admin for that reason, I mean how many exceptions could there be, outside of TSF Skins that is!
I am not sure where the without a section gallery is, here is a link to the gallery list, where are these thousands of skins?
https://www.wincustomize.com/LibraryList.aspx
thanks,
kith
Reply #9 Thursday, September 1, 2005 9:14 PM
Reply #10 Thursday, September 1, 2005 9:20 PM
| nVidia stuff in the proper formats at that!!! |
If you look again the nvidia reactor for Win Media links to a different site.
On the other hand WHO CARES?
Reply #11 Thursday, September 1, 2005 9:22 PM
I mean, who the hell (besides you) cares how TSF links their skins. Just be glad you can get them for free. Jeesh, you are really dragind this thing way out of proportion. In all the time you have wasted ranting about this issue you could've download all the free themes from the Alienware site. You could've also installed them and delete the ones you didnt like.
A million plus users on this site and you're the only one having a heart attack over this.
Reply #12 Thursday, September 1, 2005 9:31 PM
This has nothing to do with the free nature of the skin.
I do not know why you feel the need to chime in on every post I make Mr. 500 thousand and change, is there something here that you feel relates to you or is this just another WC pile on... So be it, I have been here long enough I think I can ask a few questions of staff/admins if I feel it necessary.
thanks,
kith
Reply #13 Thursday, September 1, 2005 9:33 PM
Reply #14 Thursday, September 1, 2005 9:44 PM
That must be moi.
Well for someone that has been here that much longer than me you really make too much of a fuzz over some meaningless, irrelevant thing. And it really doesnt relate to me at all, but the question is. How does it relate to YOU?? Or better yet, how does TSF or any author outlinking their skins damages or alters the WC community or the skinning community in general?
Authors will promote/distribute their work any way they possibly can or any way they are instructed to, and as long as they dont break any rules or laws I really dont see why anyone would make such a big fuzz.
Reply #15 Thursday, September 1, 2005 9:54 PM
I suggest you to make TSF level skins ... beat them out and then complaint ... it is their matter, their strategies ... and their systems. If you want to complaint then you SHOULD discuss with higher authorities privately not publicaly.
have a nice day
Reply #16 Thursday, September 1, 2005 9:55 PM
There are several gallery/skin sections on WC...however there are hundreds of skinnable programs in the wild. When someone posts a wall [for example] here he will often post direct links to his other related skins which are NOT hosted here simply because we do not have a section for them.
That is off-site linking. The Galleries listed on this site are very definitely NOT all that are available elsewhere...so if a person has a whole suite of skins they may be sourced all over the place if you need to find them all.
Now, to re-iterate...TSF has commercial clients who own copyright [distribution rights] to those works. They 'allow' on occasion other avenues of access...eg from here...but due to corporate ownership/control they may [and do] prefer to be in full control by hosting them on their own servers....if/when they 'need' to withdraw them from public access they can do so with one click....and not be at the mercy of publc 'lethargy' [perhaps]....having to request their removal from a site outside their immediate control.
If and/or when you personally have a similar legal/commercial situation your works can/will be treated equally.....in other words....NO preferential treatment.
Perhaps people need to look more closely into the mechanics and machinations of property copyright and how it affects them and their distribution.
I remember one work where TSF did a private, commercial project....not to be publicly accessed...but the 'owner'...the person who commissioned the work subsequently allowed its public distribution....and Pixtudio has had similar, as I recall.
Such public distribution should be seen as a bonus....as the owner/purchaser bought sole rights to its use.....yet then allows Joe-Public to have it freely.....I see that as a plus....free yet commercial-quality works....
Reply #17 Thursday, September 1, 2005 10:12 PM
So I am clear on this, any author who makes a case, can have his/her skins download link on WC direct to another site?
I appreciate the post, and I can't wait to see who the next author will be!
thnanks,
kith
Reply #18 Thursday, September 1, 2005 11:31 PM
You know....the only 'problem' with these works is the size of the download. As skins they are arguably better than most, so it's 'amusing' to see quite disparate rating 'opinions' on them.
My personal thoughts would be...eg the WMP skin 'Invader'...10 out of 10 for 'skin/style/execution'....maybe lose a point for bundled size.....dial-up is a bitch.
So it seems there are people out there that really need to rethink their rating methodology. I don't think "1 meg = 10 points and 66 meg = 1 point" is a sound basis for rating anything much at all [except your ISP access speed]....
Reply #19 Friday, September 2, 2005 1:08 AM
| I would love to know what other authors have been granted this privilege. |
I'd call it a more of a restriction than a privilege. But personally I'd consider "them" special.
Reply #20 Friday, September 2, 2005 6:37 AM
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Reply #1 Thursday, September 1, 2005 6:23 PM
As a matter of fact I can easily create a skin theme to let's say, promote my own website and link it our of the WC library.
Judging by your comments on TSF latest theme, I can only assume that you have started this thread out of disgust due to the fact that you have to download a theme pack out of another site rather than individual downloads of each skin on this site. Further more, what you fail to see is that the theme you are complaining about is a commercial theme of Alienware by TSF; therefore Alienware has total control and saying on where and how the theme is distributed.
Now if you like the theme, download it and be happy, if you don’t want to go thru all the hoops, then don’t download it and enjoy the screenshots.