WC Subscription Contest: 4th Day
Tuesday, August 30, 2005 by BX | Discussion: WinCustomize News
The updated report of the 4th Day of the contest.
Day 4 (29/08/05)
1. CursorXP:
New Submissions:
Swords by Subliminal Visions (Link)
Top Skins
1. Silver Cursors 2 by JJYing with 797 Unique Downloads by Registered Users
2. Relic Cursors by IGP-85 with 507 Unique Downloads by Registered Users
3. NarutoDagger by Basj with 479 Unique Downloads by Registered Users
2. LogonStudio
New Submissions:
Abridged Resonance by Himangshaw (Link)
Xedion by Great Sphynx (Link)
Top Skins
1. THE UNIVERSAL by TYCUS with 122 Unique Downloads by Registered Users
2. Xedion by Great Sphynx with 58 Unique Downloads by Registered Users
3. Sunshine by Bad Smart Baby with 46 Unique Downloads by Registered Users
3. BootSkin
New Submissions:
Abridged Resonance by Himangshaw (Link)
Subliminal Visions by 1-1 by Subliminal Visions (Link)
Xedion by Great Sphynx (Link)
Tribal Widow by rabidrobot (Link)
Top Skins
1. Forever On High by Meowy with 55 Unique Downloads by Registered Users.
2. Xedion by Great Sphynx with 38 Unique Downloads by Registered Users.
3. Midnight Blue by Bash2Cool with 30 Unique Downloads by Registered Users.
Few Words for Participants
It is observed that some participants have posted their entrees without reading the rules. Rules are:
- One entree per contestant per category.
- All skins submitted must be original new work of the contestant.
- No ports, borrowed images or re-coloring of previous work.
- ALL parts of the theme must be skinned. Incomplete skins will not be accepted.
- Violation of any of these rules will result in disqualification.
Have a nice Day
Day 4 (29/08/05)
1. CursorXP:
New Submissions:
Swords by Subliminal Visions (Link)
Top Skins
1. Silver Cursors 2 by JJYing with 797 Unique Downloads by Registered Users
2. Relic Cursors by IGP-85 with 507 Unique Downloads by Registered Users
3. NarutoDagger by Basj with 479 Unique Downloads by Registered Users
2. LogonStudio
New Submissions:
Abridged Resonance by Himangshaw (Link)
Xedion by Great Sphynx (Link)
Top Skins
1. THE UNIVERSAL by TYCUS with 122 Unique Downloads by Registered Users
2. Xedion by Great Sphynx with 58 Unique Downloads by Registered Users
3. Sunshine by Bad Smart Baby with 46 Unique Downloads by Registered Users
3. BootSkin
New Submissions:
Abridged Resonance by Himangshaw (Link)
Subliminal Visions by 1-1 by Subliminal Visions (Link)
Xedion by Great Sphynx (Link)
Tribal Widow by rabidrobot (Link)
Top Skins
1. Forever On High by Meowy with 55 Unique Downloads by Registered Users.
2. Xedion by Great Sphynx with 38 Unique Downloads by Registered Users.
3. Midnight Blue by Bash2Cool with 30 Unique Downloads by Registered Users.
Few Words for Participants
It is observed that some participants have posted their entrees without reading the rules. Rules are:
- One entree per contestant per category.
- All skins submitted must be original new work of the contestant.
- No ports, borrowed images or re-coloring of previous work.
- ALL parts of the theme must be skinned. Incomplete skins will not be accepted.
- Violation of any of these rules will result in disqualification.
Have a nice Day
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Halluci
Reply #3 Tuesday, August 30, 2005 6:15 AM
Reply #3 Tuesday, August 30, 2005 6:15 AM
thanks for the update, but I just have one question: how exactly are the skins to be judged? from what i see, it's based on overall downloads by unique wincustomize users, but wouldn't that give those skins that are submitted earlier and unfair advantage? i believe you should instead judge the skins by taking the highest download count of a single day for each of the skins, instead of downloads overall...
anyway, just my thoughts.
anyway, just my thoughts.
Robyn Henke
Reply #4 Tuesday, August 30, 2005 7:22 AM
Reply #4 Tuesday, August 30, 2005 7:22 AM
I also believe that overall downloads by unique users is not fair, but for an entirely different reason. I have downloaded all of the new cursors but for various reasons, am not using any of them because I don't like them. So now, I wish I could 'un-download' them so my 'vote' does not count.
Bash2cool
Reply #6 Tuesday, August 30, 2005 7:47 AM
Reply #6 Tuesday, August 30, 2005 7:47 AM
how can u make a link to your skin or skins. i mean i know how o make a link when i make a comment but when i make a skin, i want to do that.
i see Cavan1 do it, sometimes other people too, and i what to do the same thing.
NOTE: if you don't get what i mean here's a clue some of Cavan1's skins say "Enjoy. Visit my gallery LINK"
i can't do that link in the description part of the skin.. How can i do it?
i see Cavan1 do it, sometimes other people too, and i what to do the same thing.
NOTE: if you don't get what i mean here's a clue some of Cavan1's skins say "Enjoy. Visit my gallery LINK"
i can't do that link in the description part of the skin.. How can i do it?
BX
Reply #7 Tuesday, August 30, 2005 8:08 AM
and
Okay but the Official Rules say:
And as far as you are concerened with the early submission advantage, again you are probably wrong again. At the start of compition, Split by SoliD_NuTs was second in CXP Category, now it is nowehere as better skins with better useability came and.
And remember: if there are thousand people there would be thousan voices so it is impossible hear every voice.
Reply #7 Tuesday, August 30, 2005 8:08 AM
| it's based on overall downloads by unique wincustomize users |
and
| I also believe that overall downloads by unique users is not fair |
Okay but the Official Rules say:
| The Judges: The judges of this event will be the WinCustomize community members. 1st, 2nd and 3rd place skins of each category with the highest download count by registered users will be the winners. |
And as far as you are concerened with the early submission advantage, again you are probably wrong again. At the start of compition, Split by SoliD_NuTs was second in CXP Category, now it is nowehere as better skins with better useability came and.
And remember: if there are thousand people there would be thousan voices so it is impossible hear every voice.
Apocalypse_67
Reply #8 Tuesday, August 30, 2005 9:10 AM
Reply #8 Tuesday, August 30, 2005 9:10 AM
Just to clear some of the points made.
> The reason why we're using the Registered Users Download Count instead of the overall D/L count is because registered users are part of the WC community and not 'drive-by' visitors.
> In order to determine a winner based on a single day download count, all entries would have to be uploaded and accepted at a precise time in order to have the same running time on the contest.
The way I set the contest was to give each contestant's entry a chance to get noticed and downloaded. Keep in mind that not all registered users log every day. Running the contest for 2 weeks gives each entry enough time to get downloaded by those who couldn’t/didn’t log on the first days.
On another note, I want to again thank the sponsors for their help and support, the moderators for the fine job they are doing and Black Xero for the constant updates of the contest. And to the participants that are putting out some really good work.
> The reason why we're using the Registered Users Download Count instead of the overall D/L count is because registered users are part of the WC community and not 'drive-by' visitors.
> In order to determine a winner based on a single day download count, all entries would have to be uploaded and accepted at a precise time in order to have the same running time on the contest.
The way I set the contest was to give each contestant's entry a chance to get noticed and downloaded. Keep in mind that not all registered users log every day. Running the contest for 2 weeks gives each entry enough time to get downloaded by those who couldn’t/didn’t log on the first days.
On another note, I want to again thank the sponsors for their help and support, the moderators for the fine job they are doing and Black Xero for the constant updates of the contest. And to the participants that are putting out some really good work.
Fairyy~
Reply #9 Tuesday, August 30, 2005 10:34 AM
Reply #9 Tuesday, August 30, 2005 10:34 AM
~Please just respect Apocalype's rules and decisions whether you think its fair or not. I know everyone wants to win. Lets just say thankyou to him for engineering the event and try to just make it fun. There will be other contests. And black Xero for keeping us informed and I have enjoyed all the cursors,logons and bootskins so far..kinda bummed about Solid Nutz though..I think his cursor is awesome. Hopefully by the end of the contest all members have had a chance to log in to see all the good stuff..I've enjoyed it and can't wait for the next one.
~Offer suggestions for the "next" contest...start a new thread when this ones over.
~Offer suggestions for the "next" contest...start a new thread when this ones over.
rabidrobot
Reply #10 Tuesday, August 30, 2005 11:25 AM
Reply #10 Tuesday, August 30, 2005 11:25 AM
I think the rules are fair. That they were posted quite a while ago, so everyone knew how it was going to work.
To be honest I tried to use some strategy in my submission, knowing the rules. I wasn't too worried about being a day or two late, but realized that many registered users would get several, if not all, of the entries in a category (like robynjh's comment#4). The winning skins will be the ones that got more users to download them while at the same time neglecting to download the competition. With that in mind I used an image that is somewhat striking and conspicuous in a gallery list. I also hoped to maximize my time on the "front page" by submitting on a Sunday afternoon rather than Fiday (not to mention I hadn't finished working on my entry till then anyway).
I also thought that in the CXP category in particular a winning-the-contest-oriented strategy would be to spend a lot of time on the preview image. The preview that catches the eye and gets that extra click to the details page has probably scored a download.
So, I hope no one thinks me sneaky for considering these things. I've always liked exploring the consequences of rules in games and things--big part of the fun if you ask me. The rules to me seem very fair. It would be hard to make a more equitable contest that depended on the community (while excluding drive bys and potential false hits) instead of a panel of judges.
To be honest I tried to use some strategy in my submission, knowing the rules. I wasn't too worried about being a day or two late, but realized that many registered users would get several, if not all, of the entries in a category (like robynjh's comment#4). The winning skins will be the ones that got more users to download them while at the same time neglecting to download the competition. With that in mind I used an image that is somewhat striking and conspicuous in a gallery list. I also hoped to maximize my time on the "front page" by submitting on a Sunday afternoon rather than Fiday (not to mention I hadn't finished working on my entry till then anyway).
I also thought that in the CXP category in particular a winning-the-contest-oriented strategy would be to spend a lot of time on the preview image. The preview that catches the eye and gets that extra click to the details page has probably scored a download.
So, I hope no one thinks me sneaky for considering these things. I've always liked exploring the consequences of rules in games and things--big part of the fun if you ask me. The rules to me seem very fair. It would be hard to make a more equitable contest that depended on the community (while excluding drive bys and potential false hits) instead of a panel of judges.
Apocalypse_67
Reply #11 Tuesday, August 30, 2005 11:54 AM
Reply #11 Tuesday, August 30, 2005 11:54 AM
rabidrobot, your strategy is right on the money. On these type of contest you need to use everything to your advantage (without cheating of course 
)
And as you've mentioned, some key elements to consider are:
-Timing. Uploading on days with heavier traffic gives you a better chance of downloads.
-The Theme. Choosing a theme/image that appeal to the greater groups increases your chances of winning. And last...
-Presentation. The better you present your work (preview image) the more it will be noticed and relatively the more chances of people downloading it.
All this things are part of the competition and it's what makes it fun
)And as you've mentioned, some key elements to consider are:
-Timing. Uploading on days with heavier traffic gives you a better chance of downloads.
-The Theme. Choosing a theme/image that appeal to the greater groups increases your chances of winning. And last...
-Presentation. The better you present your work (preview image) the more it will be noticed and relatively the more chances of people downloading it.
All this things are part of the competition and it's what makes it fun
MadDeez
Reply #13 Tuesday, August 30, 2005 3:42 PM
i'm hoping that was not a direct insult of the man's work.
Reply #13 Tuesday, August 30, 2005 3:42 PM
| now it is nowehere as better skins with better useability came and. |
i'm hoping that was not a direct insult of the man's work.
Halluci
Reply #14 Tuesday, August 30, 2005 4:22 PM
I apologize if I sounded like I was ranting against the rules, and i completely respect all that you guys have done to put together this competition.
i was merely pointing out that if a skin was released, for instance, on the last day of the competition, many people who do not visit this site on a daily basis would miss that skin and would not get a chance to download it and therefore submit their "vote".
But as I said, it's your contest, so you may do as you please, and i respect you guys just for putting together this thing.
On a side note, i don't think i'll be entering this particular contest, although im currently working on a very extensive icon pack, by far the most ambitious skin i've undertaken (right now its at almost 200 unique icons!)that I might be able to release in time for the other contest... it's planned for the end of september, isn't it?
Anyway, I always enjoy contests like these, since it really brings out the best skins people have to offer, and i'll be looking forward to see what people have in store in the coming weeks, and thanks guys for making things like this possible
Reply #14 Tuesday, August 30, 2005 4:22 PM
| Please just respect Apocalype's rules and decisions whether you think its fair or not. |
I apologize if I sounded like I was ranting against the rules, and i completely respect all that you guys have done to put together this competition.
| Running the contest for 2 weeks gives each entry enough time to get downloaded by those who couldn’t/didn’t log on the first days |
i was merely pointing out that if a skin was released, for instance, on the last day of the competition, many people who do not visit this site on a daily basis would miss that skin and would not get a chance to download it and therefore submit their "vote".
But as I said, it's your contest, so you may do as you please, and i respect you guys just for putting together this thing.
On a side note, i don't think i'll be entering this particular contest, although im currently working on a very extensive icon pack, by far the most ambitious skin i've undertaken (right now its at almost 200 unique icons!)that I might be able to release in time for the other contest... it's planned for the end of september, isn't it?
Anyway, I always enjoy contests like these, since it really brings out the best skins people have to offer, and i'll be looking forward to see what people have in store in the coming weeks, and thanks guys for making things like this possible
Fairyy~
Reply #15 Tuesday, August 30, 2005 6:23 PM
Might even be October..looking forward to seeing your IP.
Reply #15 Tuesday, August 30, 2005 6:23 PM
On a side note, i don't think i'll be entering this particular contest, although im currently working on a very extensive icon pack, by far the most ambitious skin i've undertaken (right now its at almost 200 unique icons!)that I might be able to release in time for the other contest... it's planned for the end of september, isn't it? |
Might even be October..looking forward to seeing your IP.
Bones2112
Reply #16 Tuesday, August 30, 2005 6:55 PM
Reply #16 Tuesday, August 30, 2005 6:55 PM
Some outstanding work, downloaded my favorites, thanks to the contestants for all the hard work! And a quick thanks to Black Xero for the coverage, and A_67 for the contest.
basj
Reply #17 Thursday, September 1, 2005 11:55 AM
Reply #17 Thursday, September 1, 2005 11:55 AM
I just need some more clearification on this rule..
--->- One entree per contestant per category.
which mean I can upload.....two skin for the contest for cursorXP under different category ..such as general categories and games categories....?
--->- One entree per contestant per category.
which mean I can upload.....two skin for the contest for cursorXP under different category ..such as general categories and games categories....?
NightTrainthedark
Reply #18 Thursday, September 1, 2005 12:26 PM
No...you can upload 1 cursor xp theme.
Reply #18 Thursday, September 1, 2005 12:26 PM
| One entree per contestant per category. which mean I can upload.....two skin for the contest for cursorXP under different category ..such as general categories and games categories....? |
No...you can upload 1 cursor xp theme.
BX
Reply #19 Thursday, September 1, 2005 12:55 PM
You can submit One entree for CXP, One for BookSkin, and One for LogonStudio, means you can upload three entrees ... for more info see the official post
Reply #19 Thursday, September 1, 2005 12:55 PM
| which mean I can upload.....two skin for the contest for cursorXP under different category ..such as general categories and games categories....? |
You can submit One entree for CXP, One for BookSkin, and One for LogonStudio, means you can upload three entrees ... for more info see the official post
Fairyy~
Reply #20 Thursday, September 1, 2005 3:51 PM
Reply #20 Thursday, September 1, 2005 3:51 PM
I see you already made a note about this only one entry per catagory. I just d/loaded his cursor and made a comment..because it states " WC Subscription Contest "
But as luck would have it..I was able to edit out my comment about the " rules "
But as luck would have it..I was able to edit out my comment about the " rules "
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Reply #1 Tuesday, August 30, 2005 12:51 AM