Once upon a time there was a bug called Norton....

Sunday, July 17, 2005 by Jafo | Discussion: Windows Software

Some programs can be a pain in the butt to use/retain....others also a pain to remove...and yet others are a pain once they're gone.

Norton doesn't screw around....they make one suit all.

Once I couldn't convince NAV2004 to actually SCAN ANYTHING [timely just days after updating its subscription], I decided it was time to move on....you know, actually get a proggy that worked.

I uninstalled Norton...using it's special removal tool and all...made a neat job of it....

or...

So I thought.

A week or two later...Microsoft Update didn't do its thing....

Me thunked...'hmmm...life's a bitch, etc....but it'll sort itself...probably'...

Alack and alas, no.

Google came to the rescue .... GIGO was adopted..... and days later I got a salient 'hit'.

Windows/MS Update uses a service called 'BITS'...and guess what?....the Norton Uninstaller disables BITS....

Dunno....probably just for a lark

.....and you cannot re-enable it, either......seems the appropriate solution is to re-install Service Pack 2, as that fixes it.....

Well....I haven't done that yet....reinstalled SP2.....probably because that Norton thingie will spit a dummy and reformat my motherboard out of spite.

Once upon a time, Norton Utilities was a handy proggy.....back when 486s were the bees' knees.

These days you could save yourself a lot of time and effort and just auto-lobotomize.....

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Jafo
Reply #61 Tuesday, November 29, 2005 5:22 PM

hey guys...i had the same problem with updates not happening...after a lengthy correspondance with a microsoft techie in the uk, we came up with this solution whenever update decides not to work :

Nope...not if you want the Auto-updating to work...

Any method of manual updating...with a fubarred Norton will fail/did fail...

liquidguru
Reply #62 Tuesday, November 29, 2005 5:33 PM
Nope...not if you want the Auto-updating to work


ahhh..that may be true....i never ever use auto-updating...
geyster
Reply #63 Tuesday, November 29, 2005 5:40 PM
Hey, now you guys are scaring me!

I've been using Norton for years, without incident. Hearing all these horror stories, though, makes me wonder if I should change. Or from the sounds of it, maybe I'd better not try to uninstall it.

I will say one thing in its defense. I have been trying out AVG, and twice now Norton has picked up on viruses that AVG has missed. (half a dozen of one?)
Jafo
Reply #64 Tuesday, November 29, 2005 5:45 PM

 geyster ...no, if it's working for you you'll be fine. [It works for a lot of people].

As for AVG [what I use...amongst others], Norton is pretty good at getting false-positives....and they are likely what's not being detected by AVG....the latter seems more intelligent...

geyster
Reply #65 Tuesday, November 29, 2005 5:57 PM
I think I'll just use both of them.
Lantec
Reply #66 Tuesday, November 29, 2005 8:00 PM
Is it politically correct to be Anti-Symantec?
Fuzzy Logic
Reply #67 Tuesday, November 29, 2005 8:03 PM

Norton auto updater never works... unless you set a logon password, then tell norton in Scheduled Tasks that's what you've done... Best just nuke it from orbit, 'tis the only way to be sure...

...then install AVG

Sleeping Dragon
Reply #68 Wednesday, November 30, 2005 7:18 AM
Is it politically correct to be Anti-Symantec?


Best just nuke it from orbit, 'tis the only way to be sure...


Francis Maguire
Reply #69 Thursday, December 1, 2005 5:47 AM
Newest genius strike by Symantec : Many people can't get mails with outlook or outlook express after the last live update of Internet Security 2005. Well, now mail is damn secure.


Does anyone have a solution to this problem or is it a complete re-install again!


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Venom339
Reply #70 Thursday, December 1, 2005 6:13 AM
Ahh norton...I remember those days...bad times
Now I just use McAfee, best antivirus/firewall I've had so far.
Pete Morton
Reply #71 Thursday, December 1, 2005 11:52 AM
Norton crashed my system. I now use AVG AntiVirus and Sygate Personal Firewall. Norton made my system un-usable to a point where I had to do a full destructive restore.
Fuzzy Logic
Reply #72 Thursday, December 1, 2005 1:37 PM
scorpio-logic
Reply #73 Monday, December 5, 2005 1:24 PM
Hmm, Sygate...


LOL! Go figure, huh..?


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bmetelsky
Reply #74 Monday, December 5, 2005 9:28 PM
I used Norton Antivirus for several years and was quite happy. I purchased Norton Internet Security 2005 because of my positive experience with the antivirus and thoughts that the integrated firewall and antispyware would be helpful (I was running several different stand-alone products). I was quite surprised at how buggy the suite was. I finally uninstalled after trying several different configurations. Fortunately, I did not have any problems after uninstalling. I don't think I'll go back to Norton products.
seldomseen
Reply #75 Saturday, May 20, 2006 2:01 PM
Best just nuke it from orbit, 'tis the only way to be sure...


Aaargh!
Jan 1st, 2006: Got new VAIO FS780 laptop. Came w/TEMP Norton AV (90 days:()
Now May 20. Reformatted 4X
McAfee works on my desktop like a well-oiled machine
along with AdAware/AdWatch
despite being homebuilt and three years old with many upgrades
Will probably go with McAfee just because it works. Spendy, tho.
Stan57
Reply #76 Saturday, July 1, 2006 3:33 AM
Same here, i had alot of troubles with 2004 but now i have 2006 and dont have any problems at all, I love the ad blocker it has. Im sorry to hear that some people have problems with it and alot say its a memory hog which it is but its not just a firewall and antivirus program, it includes other options. The more they add to a program the more it will use memory.

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scorpNZ
Reply #77 Saturday, July 1, 2006 4:19 AM
How weird i have norton system works prof 04 & internet security prof 04 ,on a couple of occasions have had a prob with the updater not working and error message saying reinstall,so used their uninstaller and reinstalled the lot and it worked fine ,no need for SP2 reinstall, now as far as i can tell all the software that was installed at the time the break happened is back in the system and all is good, me thinks MS purposely issues bug fixes that break norton so as to give themselves a foot in the door when they start providing security ware, well that conspiracy theory works for me *hugs norton software*
Jafo
Reply #78 Saturday, July 1, 2006 10:10 AM

me thinks MS purposely issues bug fixes that break norton

Symantec does NOT need help in being broken.  It is supremely competent in that regard.

I still have 7 or 8 months of license going free to the first idiot that wants it....

Adamness
Reply #79 Saturday, July 1, 2006 11:04 AM
Hey Jafo, how's BitDefender working for you? Scan speed, memory usage? I've had enough of Norton taking so much memory. If I'm not mistaken, it looks like it's taking up 10 seperate processes.

(I tried to ask in the Top 10 AV thread, but it wouldn't update.)

I have a few months on my Norton subscription left too...up for grabs!

Thanks.
Jafo
Reply #80 Saturday, July 1, 2006 11:44 AM

Adamness  ...pretty good....had some BSOD's initially...due to conflicting antispyware proggies...but was able to irc-direct with a tech to help sort it....real life person...real time...

Only wee bug [probably Litestep] is the tray icon disappears after an update....[proggy is still active tho].

Looks like only 3 or 4 processes running...

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