Once upon a time there was a bug called Norton....
Sunday, July 17, 2005 by Jafo | Discussion: Windows Software
Some programs can be a pain in the butt to use/retain....others also a pain to remove...and yet others are a pain once they're gone.
Norton doesn't screw around....they make one suit all.
Once I couldn't convince NAV2004 to actually SCAN ANYTHING [timely just days after updating its subscription], I decided it was time to move on....you know, actually get a proggy that worked.
I uninstalled Norton...using it's special removal tool and all...made a neat job of it....
or...
So I thought.
A week or two later...Microsoft Update didn't do its thing....
Me thunked...'hmmm...life's a bitch, etc....but it'll sort itself...probably'...
Alack and alas, no.
Google came to the rescue .... GIGO was adopted..... and days later I got a salient 'hit'.
Windows/MS Update uses a service called 'BITS'...and guess what?....the Norton Uninstaller disables BITS....
Dunno....probably just for a lark
.....and you cannot re-enable it, either......seems the appropriate solution is to re-install Service Pack 2, as that fixes it.....
Well....I haven't done that yet....reinstalled SP2.....probably because that Norton thingie will spit a dummy and reformat my motherboard out of spite.
Once upon a time, Norton Utilities was a handy proggy.....back when 486s were the bees' knees.
These days you could save yourself a lot of time and effort and just auto-lobotomize.....
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Reply #42 Monday, July 18, 2005 7:55 AM
. I had the same problems as these guys. Racked my brain, research and all, will probably have to reinstall SP 2.....bummer.
Reply #43 Monday, July 18, 2005 8:36 AM
Reply #44 Monday, July 18, 2005 9:26 AM
i say get v-com's SystemSuite 5, it's the whole package and works. and needs no subscriptions!
Reply #45 Monday, July 18, 2005 9:42 AM
It's the ONLY Norton product I'll use. I tried installing Norton Utilities about 2 years ago and it completely thrashed my system. Lost all my data, had to reformat/partition the hard drive and everything. Very nasty experience.
Norton used to rock... now it just sucks
Reply #47 Monday, July 18, 2005 8:52 PM
Reply #50 Monday, July 18, 2005 10:33 PM
Reply #51 Tuesday, July 19, 2005 2:44 AM
My plan was to switch to AVG, but put simply, NIS 2004 doesn't wanna be uninstalled and won't let me use my XP Pro SP2 disc to do a repair or upgrade, so it's a clean install or nothing, given that the removal tool I downloaded don't wanna work properly either. I've cursed Symantec ever since the day it was first installed (language not repeatable here) because their support leaves alot to be desired. All their email responses originated in India, from different consulants each time, and was a standard issue response that failed to address my particular issue. Now I've nothing against people in India being employed by Symantec, but it seems foolish to place support mechanisms offshore, away from the parent company with the resources immediately on hand to investigate and resolve product issues.
Anyway, I'm not up to concentrating on yet another format and reloading all my proggies due to a bad bout of flu, so I'll have to bear with NIS's niggling characteristics and inconsistencies for a little while longer. At present, NAV severely slows backing up from one drive to another because it sometimes wants to first scan files that have already been cleared by system scans...frequently popping up windows you must click on in order to continue. This is particularly annoying when backing up suites I've assembled from various skins and saved in ThemeManager...if I'm busy with other things also, and don't see the popup, it can take an eternity to back things up that only took moments before. Another more worrying issue is NAV occasionally popping up a warning window to say I've got a virus that couldn't be repaired....log events and subsequent scans reveal no such occurrence. These "so-called" intrusions occur even when I'm on safe sites like Stardock and WC, which is most peculiar, and Symantec have provided no satisfactory answer for these imagined threats.
NIS = Norton Internet Stuffup.
Reply #52 Tuesday, July 19, 2005 5:52 PM
Reply #53 Tuesday, July 19, 2005 6:23 PM
The Norton Uninstaller actually breaks BITS .... attempting to start the service fails...Automatic, Manual, etc....makes no difference....you can change that setting...but BITS still cannot will not start.
The 5 step reg edit and file deletion methods listed elsewhere failed at every step to restart BITS...the single only solution was a re-install of SP2.
As soon as I'd re-installed I went to the services and clicked 'start' on BITS and it did....no trouble at all...
Reply #54 Tuesday, July 19, 2005 7:01 PM
| Er, couldn't you just go to "services.msc" and re-enable it manually? Like, go to "run", then type in services.msc, double-clicking on "Background Intelligent Transfer Service", and changing the startup-type to Automatic? Or I could just be stupid for not thinking that you already thought of that. |
No.
| The Norton Uninstaller actually breaks BITS .... attempting to start the service fails...Automatic, Manual, etc....makes no difference....you can change that setting...but BITS still cannot will not start. |
you ain't jest a woofin Jafo. I didn't order the disk, did it DL style...rural mind ya... now I'll be ordering the disk in case nobody gets me one. 4-6 wks
Reply #55 Tuesday, July 19, 2005 7:09 PM
Been there, done that. Being an IT pro I don't like to give in, but where NIS2005 was concerned a clean install was the only way to get rid.
Nuke it from orbit - it's the only way to be sure
Reply #56 Tuesday, July 19, 2005 7:34 PM
Reply #57 Wednesday, July 20, 2005 10:41 AM
NIS 2005 reasons not to get NIS 2006
Reply #58 Tuesday, November 29, 2005 4:46 PM
Reply #59 Tuesday, November 29, 2005 5:17 PM
1. Click Start and select Run and type "regsvr32 wuapi.dll" ( without the quotation marks and this applies to all the files)
2. Click OK to register it.
3. Click Start and select Run and type "regsvr32 wuaueng.dll" (w/o quotes)
4. Click OK to register it.
5. Click Start and select Run and type "regsvr32 wuaueng1.dll" (w/o quotes)
6. Click OK to register it.
7. Click Start and select Run and type "regsvr32 wucltui.dll" (w/o quotes)
8. Click OK to register it.
9. Click Start and select Run and type "regsvr32 wups.dll" (w/o quotes)
10. Click OK to register it.
11. Click Start and select Run and type "regsvr32 wuweb.dll" (w/o quotes)
12. Click OK to register it.
then reboot
this works for me everytime
Reply #60 Tuesday, November 29, 2005 5:19 PM
| Only had one problem with Nortan |
Everyone only has 'one problem' with Norton......
.....until they get the second problem....
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Reply #41 Monday, July 18, 2005 7:24 AM
May have to look at AVG for next computer.
Looks like Norton digs in too deep for their own good.
Glad you had a happy outcome, Jafo.