Once upon a time there was a bug called Norton....

Sunday, July 17, 2005 by Jafo | Discussion: Windows Software

Some programs can be a pain in the butt to use/retain....others also a pain to remove...and yet others are a pain once they're gone.

Norton doesn't screw around....they make one suit all.

Once I couldn't convince NAV2004 to actually SCAN ANYTHING [timely just days after updating its subscription], I decided it was time to move on....you know, actually get a proggy that worked.

I uninstalled Norton...using it's special removal tool and all...made a neat job of it....

or...

So I thought.

A week or two later...Microsoft Update didn't do its thing....

Me thunked...'hmmm...life's a bitch, etc....but it'll sort itself...probably'...

Alack and alas, no.

Google came to the rescue .... GIGO was adopted..... and days later I got a salient 'hit'.

Windows/MS Update uses a service called 'BITS'...and guess what?....the Norton Uninstaller disables BITS....

Dunno....probably just for a lark

.....and you cannot re-enable it, either......seems the appropriate solution is to re-install Service Pack 2, as that fixes it.....

Well....I haven't done that yet....reinstalled SP2.....probably because that Norton thingie will spit a dummy and reformat my motherboard out of spite.

Once upon a time, Norton Utilities was a handy proggy.....back when 486s were the bees' knees.

These days you could save yourself a lot of time and effort and just auto-lobotomize.....

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Jafo
Reply #21 Sunday, July 17, 2005 11:24 PM

Yes...looks like time to redo SP2.

Still...got oodles of entertainment from resubscribing to NAV.....

Cheap at half the price....

yrag
Reply #22 Sunday, July 17, 2005 11:24 PM
WuWebclass isn't there anymore...only the new one...MuWebclass


When you disabled the 'new' Update page it should have reset to the old WuWebclass. Delete (disable) the MuWebclass and try the update....
Jafo
Reply #23 Sunday, July 17, 2005 11:35 PM
sigh....still no luck...BITS won't start...
Jafo
Reply #24 Sunday, July 17, 2005 11:36 PM
I have both...WU and MU
yrag
Reply #25 Sunday, July 17, 2005 11:37 PM
Get the SP2 disk out Honey.......I believe Norton has reached it's entertainment value limit...
Jafo
Reply #26 Sunday, July 17, 2005 11:41 PM
Jafo
Reply #27 Sunday, July 17, 2005 11:42 PM
Sitting in a sleazy snack-bar sucking sickly sausage rolls.....
yrag
Reply #28 Sunday, July 17, 2005 11:45 PM
Sitting in a sleazy snack-bar sucking sickly sausage rolls.....




I am curious about one thing, before you wipe it out. What does your WindowsUpdate.log file say?
Bichur
Reply #29 Sunday, July 17, 2005 11:46 PM
crud. been following this and the other. been seeing auto update shield in systray off and on. put mouse over it & it was at 0 percent, then disappeared. went to windows update, checked history and found out everything has failed since mid june (about the time of my own norton fiasco). tried the step 1 = successful but no go / step 2 = 'not necessary to run, click ok'. looked at the castle cops link - will take me a while to re-re-re-read and try to absorb. life woulda been much simplier if i didn't know.
yrag
Reply #30 Sunday, July 17, 2005 11:49 PM
Ignorance is bliss..........
Jafo
Reply #31 Monday, July 18, 2005 12:03 AM

The log is 1.4 meg....here's the last 'page' of it....

 

2005-07-18 14:58:25 4644 1e10 DtaStor Update service properties: service registered with AU is {7971F918-A847-4430-9279-4A52D1EFE18D}
2005-07-18 14:58:25 7676 17ac COMAPI   - Added service, URL = http://update.microsoft.com/microsoftupdate/
2005-07-18 14:58:25 7676 17ac COMAPI -----------  COMAPI: IUpdateServiceManager::RegisterServiceWithAU  -----------
2005-07-18 14:58:25 7676 17ac COMAPI   - ServiceId = {7971f918-a847-4430-9279-4a52d1efe18d}
2005-07-18 14:58:27 7676 17ac Setup ***********  Setup: Checking whether self-update is required  ***********
2005-07-18 14:58:27 7676 17ac Setup   * Inf file: C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution\WebSetup\wusetup.inf
2005-07-18 14:58:27 7676 17ac Setup Update NOT required for C:\WINDOWS\system32\wuweb.dll: target version = 5.8.0.2469, required version = 5.8.0.2469
2005-07-18 14:58:27 7676 17ac Setup   * IsUpdateRequired = No
2005-07-18 14:58:28 7676 17ac Setup ***********  Setup: Checking whether self-update is required  ***********
2005-07-18 14:58:28 7676 17ac Setup   * Inf file: C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution\WebSetup\wusetup.inf
2005-07-18 14:58:28 7676 17ac Setup Update NOT required for C:\WINDOWS\system32\cdm.dll: target version = 5.8.0.2469, required version = 5.8.0.2469
2005-07-18 14:58:28 7676 17ac Setup Update NOT required for C:\WINDOWS\system32\iuengine.dll: target version = 5.8.0.2469, required version = 5.8.0.2469
2005-07-18 14:58:28 7676 17ac Setup Update NOT required for C:\WINDOWS\system32\wuapi.dll: target version = 5.8.0.2469, required version = 5.8.0.2469
2005-07-18 14:58:28 7676 17ac Setup Update NOT required for C:\WINDOWS\system32\wuauclt.exe: target version = 5.8.0.2469, required version = 5.8.0.2469
2005-07-18 14:58:28 7676 17ac Setup Update NOT required for C:\WINDOWS\system32\wuauclt1.exe: target version = 5.8.0.2469, required version = 5.8.0.2469
2005-07-18 14:58:28 7676 17ac Setup Update NOT required for C:\WINDOWS\system32\wuaucpl.cpl: target version = 5.8.0.2469, required version = 5.8.0.2469
2005-07-18 14:58:28 7676 17ac Setup Update NOT required for C:\WINDOWS\system32\wuaueng.dll: target version = 5.8.0.2469, required version = 5.8.0.2469
2005-07-18 14:58:28 7676 17ac Setup Update NOT required for C:\WINDOWS\system32\wuaueng1.dll: target version = 5.8.0.2469, required version = 5.8.0.2469
2005-07-18 14:58:28 7676 17ac Setup Update NOT required for C:\WINDOWS\system32\wucltui.dll: target version = 5.8.0.2469, required version = 5.8.0.2469
2005-07-18 14:58:28 7676 17ac Setup Update NOT required for C:\WINDOWS\system32\wups.dll: target version = 5.8.0.2469, required version = 5.8.0.2469
2005-07-18 14:58:29 7676 17ac Setup Update NOT required for C:\WINDOWS\system32\wups2.dll: target version = 5.8.0.2469, required version = 5.8.0.2469
2005-07-18 14:58:29 7676 17ac Setup   * IsUpdateRequired = No

yrag
Reply #32 Monday, July 18, 2005 12:08 AM
OK...one thing before the sit down with the sausages......

Start>Run and key in:
regsvr32 MSXML3.dll
Jafo
Reply #33 Monday, July 18, 2005 12:21 AM

Well...I'll give it something...it's consistent...still doesn't work...

Jafo digs out SP2....

yrag
Reply #34 Monday, July 18, 2005 12:23 AM
...agreed......pass the sausages
Jafo
Reply #35 Monday, July 18, 2005 2:05 AM
Updates are working now....SP2 did the trick...
Ande
Reply #36 Monday, July 18, 2005 5:20 AM
That was fun. heh heh.
c242
Reply #37 Monday, July 18, 2005 6:17 AM
Newest genius strike by Symantec : Many people can't get mails with outlook or outlook express after the last live update of Internet Security 2005. Well, now mail is damn secure.
Fuzzy Logic
Reply #38 Monday, July 18, 2005 6:42 AM
A couple of weeks ago I did a clean install to rid myself of NIS 2005 and all its annoying bugs. I'm now using AVG, which is working flawlessly, and my old Norton Personal Firewall 2002 which works 99% ok. I say 99% because sometimes, with WB loaded, you can't see the text on the pop-up dialogue box NPF uses to configure internet access for a proggie...
Bushman
Reply #39 Monday, July 18, 2005 6:49 AM
I use Norton Internet Security 2005 and I haven't had any problems. I was haveing a lot of trouble with the 2004 version though. I would get nailed with a virus that had some of the same symtoms like Windows Update not working I would also lose something else but I don't remember what it was, it was major I just don't remember. Before I had the SP2 XP Disk the only thing I could do was format, this happen several times before I upgraded to the 2005 version, I haven't had the problem since. I also haven't had any problem recieveing emails, I use Microsoft Office XP with the lastest update. I just checked. The only thing is now I have to check my spam folder and OK emails or make then spam which I can live with.
PurrBall
Reply #40 Monday, July 18, 2005 7:18 AM
The only Norton I use is GoBack... because damn Symantec bought it... It is a must-hhave proggy though.... No problems so far.....

I miss the good old Peter Norton days......

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