Victory for the Domestic Horse!
**Major update and Victory**
Wednesday, June 8, 2005 by _02 | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
Please read comment 27 for the latest news!!!!
I can't thank those of you that helped in making this victory possible enough. I am so happy I could scream! Thank you soooo much, and God Bless. 
Here is the letter about it.
Horse Slaughter Amendment Passes U.S. House!
Dear Cynthia,
We've done it again! Thanks to your action, the U.S. House of Representatives voted overwhelmingly -- 269-158 -- to halt the taxpayer support for the slaughter of nearly 90,000 horses per year. The Sweeney-Spratt amendment effectively eliminates the practice of slaughtering horses -- thoroughbreds, show horses, family ponies, and wild horses -- for human consumption overseas.
The successful amendment to the agriculture appropriations bill, championed by U.S. Representatives John Sweeney (R-NY), John Spratt (D-SC), Nick Jo Rahall (D-WV), and Ed Whitfield (R-KY), will defund USDA inspections at the three U.S. horse slaughterhouses as well as border inspections of slaughter-bound horses. All three slaughterhouses are foreign-owned companies.
"Since our nation was founded, we as a country have shared a special relationship with the horse," said Rep. John Sweeney (R-NY). "It is unconscionable that for decades, we have been using federal taxpayer dollars to support a practice that the American public is overwhelmingly opposed to. I'm pleased to see that my colleagues agree that this horrid inhumane treatment must end."
"If you've grown up with and ridden horses as I have, you develop an affinity for these special creatures," added Rep. John Spratt (D-SC). "They're as close to human as you can get in the animal domain."
On May 19, the U.S. House voted to support a similar amendment, by a vote of 249-159, to ban the slaughter of wild mustangs. Today's vote protects domestic horses as well, as there is no justification in slaughtering horses for human consumption abroad. U.S. Senator John Ensign (R-NV) has pledged to introduce a bill in the Senate to outlaw the slaughter of horses for human consumption.
Protecting America's horses -- domesticated and wild -- has clearly struck a chord with animal advocates nationwide. Congressional offices told us they were flooded with phone calls and emails asking them to support the Sweeney-Spratt amendment, and I can assure you that your participation has once again carried the day for horses. You can click here to find out how your Representative voted. If your Representative voted "Aye," please thank him or her for protecting our horses, and if your Representative voted "No," please let him or her know how disappointed you are. Here is your U.S. Representative's contact information: Bob Etheridge, (202) 225-4531.
With two victories in the U.S. House, our efforts for horses will now turn to the U.S. Senate, and we hope you will be there with us to end horse slaughter once and for all. If you would like to help us do even more to protect horses and pass other animal protection laws, please make a donation. Thank you so much for helping us win another critical legislative battle -- and for helping horses to run free and live in peace.
Sincerely,
Wayne Pacelle
President & CEO
Here is the letter about it.
Horse Slaughter Amendment Passes U.S. House!
Dear Cynthia,
We've done it again! Thanks to your action, the U.S. House of Representatives voted overwhelmingly -- 269-158 -- to halt the taxpayer support for the slaughter of nearly 90,000 horses per year. The Sweeney-Spratt amendment effectively eliminates the practice of slaughtering horses -- thoroughbreds, show horses, family ponies, and wild horses -- for human consumption overseas.
The successful amendment to the agriculture appropriations bill, championed by U.S. Representatives John Sweeney (R-NY), John Spratt (D-SC), Nick Jo Rahall (D-WV), and Ed Whitfield (R-KY), will defund USDA inspections at the three U.S. horse slaughterhouses as well as border inspections of slaughter-bound horses. All three slaughterhouses are foreign-owned companies.
"Since our nation was founded, we as a country have shared a special relationship with the horse," said Rep. John Sweeney (R-NY). "It is unconscionable that for decades, we have been using federal taxpayer dollars to support a practice that the American public is overwhelmingly opposed to. I'm pleased to see that my colleagues agree that this horrid inhumane treatment must end."
"If you've grown up with and ridden horses as I have, you develop an affinity for these special creatures," added Rep. John Spratt (D-SC). "They're as close to human as you can get in the animal domain."
On May 19, the U.S. House voted to support a similar amendment, by a vote of 249-159, to ban the slaughter of wild mustangs. Today's vote protects domestic horses as well, as there is no justification in slaughtering horses for human consumption abroad. U.S. Senator John Ensign (R-NV) has pledged to introduce a bill in the Senate to outlaw the slaughter of horses for human consumption.
Protecting America's horses -- domesticated and wild -- has clearly struck a chord with animal advocates nationwide. Congressional offices told us they were flooded with phone calls and emails asking them to support the Sweeney-Spratt amendment, and I can assure you that your participation has once again carried the day for horses. You can click here to find out how your Representative voted. If your Representative voted "Aye," please thank him or her for protecting our horses, and if your Representative voted "No," please let him or her know how disappointed you are. Here is your U.S. Representative's contact information: Bob Etheridge, (202) 225-4531.
With two victories in the U.S. House, our efforts for horses will now turn to the U.S. Senate, and we hope you will be there with us to end horse slaughter once and for all. If you would like to help us do even more to protect horses and pass other animal protection laws, please make a donation. Thank you so much for helping us win another critical legislative battle -- and for helping horses to run free and live in peace.
Sincerely,
Wayne Pacelle
President & CEO
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Cyberworld
Reply #3 Thursday, June 9, 2005 5:59 AM
Reply #3 Thursday, June 9, 2005 5:59 AM
Way to go clwoods 
Really glad i could help to save those horses. 
Really glad i could help to save those horses. 
_02
Reply #4 Thursday, June 9, 2005 7:28 AM
Reply #4 Thursday, June 9, 2005 7:28 AM
Thanks alot Developer Cyberworld. The credit goes to all who participated. I am very happy. Btw, you can call me Cindi! 
Yarlen
Reply #6 Thursday, June 9, 2005 8:59 AM
Reply #6 Thursday, June 9, 2005 8:59 AM
The original legislation had to have been pork barrel politics...oh well, victory's a victory.
Cyberworld
Reply #7 Thursday, June 9, 2005 9:04 AM
Reply #7 Thursday, June 9, 2005 9:04 AM
Okay Cindi it is. And you may call me Harry if you want. 
carolelee
Reply #8 Thursday, June 9, 2005 10:57 AM
WOM, I really take offence to that!!(you don't know what they go through....it's sick) I'm so happy to hear this good news Cindi, I just wish Canada(even my own Province, Alberta)would stop this vile business!! Our dumb government will not listen to it's own people regarding this matter!! In horse-loving Alberta, this province has one of those horrible fascilities near Fort Macleod.....it's an outrage that they are still doing this! We need all the help we can get to stop this!!
Reply #8 Thursday, June 9, 2005 10:57 AM
| Oh well, looks like thousands of people will go hungry |
WOM, I really take offence to that!!(you don't know what they go through....it's sick) I'm so happy to hear this good news Cindi, I just wish Canada(even my own Province, Alberta)would stop this vile business!! Our dumb government will not listen to it's own people regarding this matter!! In horse-loving Alberta, this province has one of those horrible fascilities near Fort Macleod.....it's an outrage that they are still doing this! We need all the help we can get to stop this!!
_02
Reply #9 Thursday, June 9, 2005 1:25 PM
Reply #9 Thursday, June 9, 2005 1:25 PM
Thankyou Admin Yarlen. A Victory is a Victory. However it got started, it was happening, and now it is 1 step closer to the end of it.
Just point me in the right direction. I didn't know this was going on there too. It would be nice to get them stopped wherever they are. Not to mention the seal beatings.
If there is something I can sign, just let me know. Thanks, Carolelee.
| We need all the help we can get to stop this!! |
Just point me in the right direction. I didn't know this was going on there too. It would be nice to get them stopped wherever they are. Not to mention the seal beatings.
If there is something I can sign, just let me know. Thanks, Carolelee.
bootasven
Reply #10 Thursday, June 9, 2005 1:51 PM
Reply #10 Thursday, June 9, 2005 1:51 PM
Carolelee I am also an Albertian, and I would think the opposite. Many people (at least those I have talked to after reading this) in Alberta support this industry and I believe rightfully so. Horse meat is eaten widely throughout the world, particularly in European. These animals are not mistreated as far as I know, at least no differently than any other domesticated feed animal such as cattle, pigs, sheep, etc.
I don't fully understand why the reaction to slaughtering horse for food consumption is any different than that of slaughtering cattle for food consumption (and as a patriotic albertian you must love your steak). Maybe you could educate me as to why this is worse? (I also have a different view regarding the seal hunt but this thread is about horses so I wont go there)
I don't fully understand why the reaction to slaughtering horse for food consumption is any different than that of slaughtering cattle for food consumption (and as a patriotic albertian you must love your steak). Maybe you could educate me as to why this is worse? (I also have a different view regarding the seal hunt but this thread is about horses so I wont go there)
_02
Reply #11 Thursday, June 9, 2005 2:23 PM
Actually I wrote this thread to thank the people who helped end this horrid act. It is here to let them know the outcome of their efforts. So, please, do take your argument about whether you feel it is right or wrong, to your own thread. This is a thread of appreciation and victory. Thank you.
Reply #11 Thursday, June 9, 2005 2:23 PM
| (I also have a different view regarding the seal hunt but this thread is about horses so I wont go there) |
Actually I wrote this thread to thank the people who helped end this horrid act. It is here to let them know the outcome of their efforts. So, please, do take your argument about whether you feel it is right or wrong, to your own thread. This is a thread of appreciation and victory. Thank you.
bootasven
Reply #12 Thursday, June 9, 2005 2:37 PM
Reply #12 Thursday, June 9, 2005 2:37 PM
Sorry clwoods, your thread didn't specify anywhere that you did not want people to comment on thier opinion regarding this issue (i guess had the ridiculous notion that that is what forums were about). I sincerely apologize that my views are different than yours.
_02
Reply #13 Thursday, June 9, 2005 2:47 PM
No need to appologize.This is a forum, and you can start a thread about anything you want. I do think the title of this thread is self explanitory. Have a good day.
Reply #13 Thursday, June 9, 2005 2:47 PM
| I sincerely apologize that my views are different than yours. |
No need to appologize.This is a forum, and you can start a thread about anything you want. I do think the title of this thread is self explanitory. Have a good day.
carolelee
Reply #14 Thursday, June 9, 2005 4:45 PM
bootasven, may I suggest you educate yourself before you say many people in the province support this? Check out this link and find out how many good horses can and do go to slaughter http://www.themitchellcentre.ab.ca Just late last year Fort Macleod was charged by the Humane Society for overcrowding conditions! Alot of the mares there are "in foal" killing two for the price of one......it's discusting!! Horses smell fear, they panic and trample the smaller ones.....get a grip, horses are NOT cows, pigs or sheep
Reply #14 Thursday, June 9, 2005 4:45 PM
| I don't fully understand why the reaction to slaughtering horse for food consumption is any different than that of slaughtering cattle for food consumption (and as a patriotic albertian you must love your steak). Maybe you could educate me as to why this is worse? (I also have a different view regarding the seal hunt but this thread is about horses so I wont go there) |
bootasven, may I suggest you educate yourself before you say many people in the province support this? Check out this link and find out how many good horses can and do go to slaughter http://www.themitchellcentre.ab.ca Just late last year Fort Macleod was charged by the Humane Society for overcrowding conditions! Alot of the mares there are "in foal" killing two for the price of one......it's discusting!! Horses smell fear, they panic and trample the smaller ones.....get a grip, horses are NOT cows, pigs or sheep
bootasven
Reply #15 Thursday, June 9, 2005 4:48 PM
Reply #15 Thursday, June 9, 2005 4:48 PM
Clwoods - I disagree, your thread title says nothing about refraining from comment if your views are different, and I disagree with your insistance on refraining. These are free forums for all to submit a topic and for all to comment. I am not required to post a new thread on the same topic just so that I do not polute yours with a counter viewpoint. To do so would be nonsensical and a waste of server space.
I posted nothing derogatory or offensive, just my views on the subject and the comments made. If you do not wish for people to comment on your thread (for or against) then you should not submit it.
Oh, and I'm having a great day.
I posted nothing derogatory or offensive, just my views on the subject and the comments made. If you do not wish for people to comment on your thread (for or against) then you should not submit it.
Oh, and I'm having a great day.
carolelee
Reply #16 Thursday, June 9, 2005 5:07 PM
You seem real compassionate regarding this issue, so cavalear about horses and eating them, considering they are the backbone of this Province...our history and heritage.....I can't believe some people....just unreal! Would you condone eating dogs, cats, parakeets? No dought!
Reply #16 Thursday, June 9, 2005 5:07 PM
| and as a patriotic albertian you must love your steak). Maybe you could educate me as to why this is worse? |
You seem real compassionate regarding this issue, so cavalear about horses and eating them, considering they are the backbone of this Province...our history and heritage.....I can't believe some people....just unreal! Would you condone eating dogs, cats, parakeets? No dought!
_02
Reply #17 Thursday, June 9, 2005 5:09 PM 
I am too, bootasven. All your posts on my thread are keeping it in the top 5 threads so more of the people I wrote this for, can see it. Thank you very much.
Reply #17 Thursday, June 9, 2005 5:09 PM
I am too, bootasven. All your posts on my thread are keeping it in the top 5 threads so more of the people I wrote this for, can see it. Thank you very much.
bootasven
Reply #18 Thursday, June 9, 2005 5:48 PM
Reply #18 Thursday, June 9, 2005 5:48 PM
Carolelee - In our culture eating cattle, pork, chicken, fish, and many other animals is customary. Other cultures eat animals such as dog, cat, etc, which may not be customary in our own. What makes eating one animal wrong but another right?
I disagree that horses are the backbone of Alberta, rather it is the people who built Alberta into the rich and prosperous province that it is. Would you be adverse to eating oxen which was also used as a work animal throughout our provinces history?
Horse is eaten in Canada as well, primarily in the province of Quebec. I understand your disgust at consuming certain animals, particularly if you have a similar animal as a pet, but does that make it wrong?
I disagree that horses are the backbone of Alberta, rather it is the people who built Alberta into the rich and prosperous province that it is. Would you be adverse to eating oxen which was also used as a work animal throughout our provinces history?
Horse is eaten in Canada as well, primarily in the province of Quebec. I understand your disgust at consuming certain animals, particularly if you have a similar animal as a pet, but does that make it wrong?
carolelee
Reply #19 Thursday, June 9, 2005 6:34 PM
Did they plow the fields by themselves? Did they not use horse and buggy to get around? They were our helpers and this is how we repay them! BTW, not everyone eats animals, so quit grouping everyone together!! As a matter of fact, I own three horses....so what you say to me is insulting.....did you check out that link? Maybe you should do your homework before you shoot your month off.
Reply #19 Thursday, June 9, 2005 6:34 PM
| I disagree that horses are the backbone of Alberta, rather it is the people who built Alberta into the rich and prosperous province that it is. |
Did they plow the fields by themselves? Did they not use horse and buggy to get around? They were our helpers and this is how we repay them! BTW, not everyone eats animals, so quit grouping everyone together!! As a matter of fact, I own three horses....so what you say to me is insulting.....did you check out that link? Maybe you should do your homework before you shoot your month off.
paxx
Reply #20 Thursday, June 9, 2005 6:47 PM
Reply #20 Thursday, June 9, 2005 6:47 PM
Hum... I respect others opinion. I'm OK with the USA wanting to stop horse meat being sold or eaten; it's their country, their culture. Personnaly, I think horse meat is just simply the best tasting meat. You just can't know how good it tastes until you've had some. But, as I said, sa much as I like horse meat, I respect others who have a more personal relationship with these animals and don't want to eat them. Nobody could force me to eat cats or dogs, but I don't mind if other people do (as long as they don't eat MY dog! ).
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Reply #1 Wednesday, June 8, 2005 9:35 PM