Airport screeners could see X-rated X-rays
More dumb ideas courtesy of the government
Tuesday, May 24, 2005 by Frogboy | Discussion: WinCustomize News
I wouldn't normally put up a news item on this but I've been traveling a lot lately and airport security is almost certainly one of the biggest reasons why I try to avoid it. I just hate having to take off my shoes, unpack my carefully packed laptop bag, and wait in long lines. But now they want to introduce X-ray machines that let people see through our clothes?
Here's a fact check: Number of hijackings that have occurred due to someone getting an illegal item through security in the US? Answer: 0. 9/11 happened because the terrorists took box cutters - items that were perfectly legal -- onto the plane. This is a solution for a problem that doesn't even exist. A "solution" that merely puts up even more obstacles to flying.
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Reply #22 Thursday, May 26, 2005 8:42 PM
Reply #23 Thursday, May 26, 2005 10:20 PM
It's the same old adage...those with nothing to hide have nothing to fear.
I can see a policeman walking towards me and not break out into a sweat...because I don't break the law. Having an ID card that 'guarantees' I am who I say I am won't hurt at all...it will prevent identity theft....something which is a serious issue.
Don't fall into that trap of lauding and expounding the 'wise words' of some dead bloke called Franklin to justify any stance, one way or another.....cos shock-horror, he is JUST some dead bloke who had something to say. He's no more adroit or visionary than anyone else.
Currently I have a Photo ID for my driver's licence...a criminal offence NOT to carry it while driving...
I have a Photo ID as a Registered Building Practitioner .... to police fraud in the building industry....my details are available to anyone 24/7 online for that end.
I have a photo ID as an FIA Official in Formula One ... to police who I am and show I am competent and trustworthy in Motor Racing.
Then there's all those ID records for credit cards, club memberships....and don't forget passports.
Why NOT set all these up with data on the one card complete with DNA, etc ....if nothing else it'd make life simpler....
Reply #24 Friday, May 27, 2005 6:32 AM
How wonderful if that was actually true.
The sad truth is that if a corrupt government feel that your perfectly legitimate and lawful thoughts are "dangerous"
to their criminal dealings you are considered an "enemy".
I believe we all remember "W's" smirk when he repeated the words;
"If you are not with us, you are with the terrorists!"
*cheers, applause, frantic flagwaving and God damn any "unpatriotic" person daring to question it all*
Background on Cointelpro:
http://www.icdc.com/~paulwolf/cointelpro/cointel.htm
"Don't fall into that trap of lauding and expounding the 'wise words' of some dead bloke called Franklin to justify any stance, one way or another.....cos shock-horror, he is JUST some dead bloke who had something to say."
I find it hard to see how repeating good advice would be "falling into a trap".
When it comes to photo ID, my photo is on my ID/drivers license and also in my passport.
I have nothing against that and they give me access to wherever I need to be.
The problem is that adding more stuff to it will NOT "make people safer",
especially since biometric technology is unsafer than for example memorized
passwords though some people who make money of those systems like to claim
otherwise.
Just to take a few examples in no particular order;
1. Fingerprint Scanners Still Easy to Fool
http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/06/25/1315254&tid=172
2. How Secure Is Microsoft's Fingerprint Reader?
http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/01/31/1457226&tid=172&tid=191&tid=4
3. Library to Require Fingerprint to Use PCs
http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/05/20/1646225&tid=158&tid=103
4. How to fake fingerprints?
http://www.ccc.de/biometrie/fingerabdruck_kopieren.xml?language=en
5. Carjackers swipe biometric Merc, plus owner's finger
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/04/04/fingerprint_merc_chop/
6. Prepare to be scanned
http://www.economist.com/displaystory.cfm?story_id=2246191
7. ID theft is inescapable
http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2005/03/23/id_theft_cannot_be_escaped/
And one thing that persons advocating the idea of keeping check
on where and what all people are up to at any given moment like
to spin is the "convenience". But, they never mention the fact
that the "convenience" of having all information about you and your habits
in one place actually subverts your security, since, as anyone
working with security will tell you, the most secure practice
is to spread out the information you want to keep safe
from unauthorized use.
To conclude, it seems that George Orwell's book 1984 would
be a good thing for many people to pick up from your local
library, but then again, now that the reading habbits are
monitored to spot potential "terrorists" maybe getting it
from your local Barnes & Noble would be better.
Using cash of course
Reply #25 Friday, May 27, 2005 6:59 PM
| To conclude, it seems that George Orwell's book 1984 would be a good thing for many people to pick up from your local library |
Again....I read that a hell of a long time before 1984....back when '84 was the 'distant future'...
Re the 'famous bloke quote'....the quote is assigned pith and substance through it's author....or is it the author is assigned pith through his quote?
Some known or unknown twit stringing words together is just that. Whether you obsess over their grandeur or not should not be based on 'who' said it but on what was said...
Reply #26 Friday, May 27, 2005 8:22 PM
I always add the author of a good quote, if I know who that is.
It's a courtesy, not to mention good form, to other readers, who
may want to know in order to find more words of the same person,
and not an "obsession over their grandeur".
I had hoped you, as someone administrating intellectual property
would appreciate that, I'm sorry you don't feel that way.
Reply #27 Sunday, May 29, 2005 11:19 PM
Timothy McVeigh drove a dang U-Haul truck so what would looking through my grandmothers clothes to her skin in some airport in another state do to prevent a U-Haul truck from doing the kinds of damage Arab nutcases want to do to us?
But hell, to that politicians high minded contributors, he is saving lives. He is doing nothing but spending money so other perverts have reason to come to work. How long after these machines go online do you think the first pictures hit the net? You know it's gonna happen.
Reply #28 Monday, May 30, 2005 1:43 AM
| I had hoped you, as someone administrating intellectual property would appreciate that, I'm sorry you don't feel that way. |
It's not about intellectual property, or giving credit, etc....it's about not attributing such importance to sayings purely for the fame of their orator...
Reply #29 Monday, May 30, 2005 2:31 AM
I'm not attributing any importance to quotes because a certain person said or wrote something,
as I said earlier, I always add the source of a good comment, no matter if the person is "famous" or not,
as long as I know who said what.
It's up to the reader to judge what quotes are "important" or not for them.
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Reply #21 Thursday, May 26, 2005 3:21 PM
At least I agree with you on that. When too much security endangers legacy airlines like AA/ UA/ DA/ NW... the TSA should really take a good look at what's time consuming and unnecessary and what's efficient and critical to maintain security - and then make the right choice. Needless to recall that low-cost airlines bear more responsibility here. Some security checks just make it worse.