Sir Jafo

Sir Jafo

Friday, May 13, 2005 by neophil78 | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk

I don't really know the reason why, but it seems you don't like me too much (BTW, i don't like neither people who don't like me)

I'd just had an mail exhange with treetog, who was a little surprised off what's going on about a little Bootskin (which i did for my own use and just wanted to share ) ... As i know him since a while (and him back too), he told me he had about 2 weeks for getting permission from http://www.trekships.org/antares.htm to get permission to use their walls ...

I'm not a ripper, you know that, but you're trying to present me like this ... i think that's not really fair from you specially because you're an admin and you know different things ...




It was just a little comment apart from what i think about Stardock practises ...
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Bichur
Reply #1 Friday, May 13, 2005 1:12 PM
he told me he had about 2 weeks for getting permission

Which I believe means: Treetog permission? - yes.


I'm not a ripper, you know that, but you're trying to present me like this

I have seen no indication anyone was trying to present you as a ripper.

All i see, on all posts: no permission = no upload.

Why cry?

just be happy => rejection not because work sucks.
craeonics
Reply #2 Friday, May 13, 2005 1:53 PM
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Personal matters should remain at a personal level. If you want to discuss private things with J-man, use email.
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neophil78
Reply #3 Friday, May 13, 2005 1:58 PM
If you want to discuss private things with J-man, use email.


And don't you think it was not already done ? (with nearlly everyone from Stardock - not about speaking about that little bootskin, but for other troubles ...)
neophil78
Reply #4 Friday, May 13, 2005 2:00 PM
Why cry?


I'm not crying , i thing i've the age to don't anymore ... just trying to explain a position which is easilly changed by some others ...
Koasati
Reply #5 Friday, May 13, 2005 2:10 PM
he told me he had about 2 weeks for getting permission from Link to get permission to use their walls ..

The length of time it took Renato to get permission is irrelevant ........ YOU either have permission or you don't. ........and btw.... no one has called you a ripper.

Now get over it already. Either upload your BootSkin with veriable permission include, or keep it for your personal use.

neophil78
Reply #6 Friday, May 13, 2005 2:27 PM
Well as i said, i just did this BootSkin for my own use. As i thought it was not too bad, i just wanted to share. Now it seemed it became a monster trouble ...
Bichur
Reply #7 Friday, May 13, 2005 2:51 PM
Smart Trolls know:

Don't feed the monster & it will die.
paxx
Reply #8 Friday, May 13, 2005 3:57 PM
Écoute Philippe, si tu veux discuter de ces problèmes en français, tu peux m'écrire par email. Il me fera plaisir d'essayer de t'expliquer où est le problème. Peut-être s'agit-il d'un problème de communication engendré par une barrière linguistique?
Aucun admin n'a rien contre toi. Les règles sont les mêmes pour tous. patricfontaine arobas gmail point com.
neophil78
Reply #9 Friday, May 13, 2005 4:51 PM
Merci de cet effort linguistique paxx (d'autant que si je ne m'abuse ça ne doit paq être un trop gros effort LOL).
En effet les règles doivent être les mêmes pour tout le monde. Il se trouve en l'occurence que ce n'est pas franchement le cas, et oui je maintiens que le Sir Jafo a (toujours pour une raison que j'ignore) particulièrement quelque chose de pas bien net contre moi ...
BoXXi
Reply #10 Friday, May 13, 2005 6:44 PM

I don't know what Paxx said, but I hope it was..."Listen, if you don't have permission from the original author, you can't upload someone elses work".

I'm at a loss to see how that is so difficult to understand. It's the same for everybody, we turn away many, many uploads each day for the very same thing. No one is being victimised or treated differently to anyone else.

*sigh*........

goodmorphing
Reply #11 Friday, May 13, 2005 7:04 PM
from distant memory (my french is weak) Paxx said something like "Listen, Philippe, if you want to discuss this problem in french you can email me.  I would be happy to explain what the problem is.  Perhaps this is a communication problem caused by a language barrier.  None of the admins have anything against you.  The rules are the same for all. 
Diafragma
Reply #12 Friday, May 13, 2005 7:11 PM
This is like the third thread about the same issue, dude, move on already. No matther what you say without permission from the orginal author it will not be posted, how hard can it be to undestand... Maybe this will motivate you to create your own work so you won't encounter the same difficulties again...
Double Zero
Reply #13 Friday, May 13, 2005 7:49 PM
LMAO..UMM...

This may sound odd..but I think that everyone should follow the "Trolls" advice...

Smart Trolls know:

Don't feed the monster & it will die.


Seems to me the best way to alleviate all the grief... strange that advice should come from a Troll..gotta be one of the smartest trolls I have ever met..LoL

Zero.
Jafo
Reply #14 Friday, May 13, 2005 8:28 PM

neophil78 ...no, I do not 'not like you'.  The rejection of an upload due to lack of permission happens to everyone, no matter who, what or why.  If it were Frogboy wanting to upload without permission it would be rejected [and yet this is his site].

This is a simple issue of obtaining consent before you 'share' the bootskin with others.

You still have no consent from the wall artist.  treetog said it took him 2 weeks to get consent from them....maybe you just need to wait longer to get a reply from them too.

So far I have received no communication from you by email to explain this situation, however you have received 4 from myself.

As to 'accusing you of being a ripper'....that's not quite right, but distribution of an artist's work without prior consent is an issue of copyright and must be acted upon.  This is often called 'ripping' [to put it simply], though it is not a deliberate intent to deceive it is still breaking the 'rules' of this, and other sites to do so.

For the curious....this is thread number 7 relating to a trivial issue which can be solved by....

Please wait until you receive direct permission from the artist to modify and distribute his work as a bootskin BEFORE you upload that bootskin to this, or any website.

Hopefully Patric [Paxx] can translate this thread comment accurately into French to assist in communicating its content...

 

Jafo
Reply #15 Friday, May 13, 2005 9:17 PM
Jafo forgot to mention....he HAS to like you....you use his WinAmp skin....
neophil78
Reply #16 Saturday, May 14, 2005 5:40 AM
Well, you know what, i'm really too tired of different things. Some other parts of mylife.com are much more important for me now that a little BootSkin i did firstly for myself. Just wanted to share it ... i'm pretty sure as treetog said to me i'll get permission (just a question of time - and probably question of mail trouble ...)

Though, still go on your way, and i'll still go on mine
neophil78
Reply #17 Saturday, May 14, 2005 6:41 AM
And a little song to finish from another guy i like [eh you'll see it's also a rip]

in this proud land we grew up strong
we were wanted all along
I was taught to fight, taught to win
I never thought I could fail

no fight left or so it seems
I am a man whose dreams have all deserted
I've changed my face, I've changed my name
but no one wants you when you lose

just give up
'cos you have friends
just give up
you're not beaten yet
just give up
I know you can make it good

though I saw it all around
never thought DID I could be affected
thought that we'd be the last to go
it is so strange the way things turn

drove the night toward my home
the place that I was born, on the lakeside
as daylight broke, I saw the earth
the trees had burned down to the ground

just give up
you still have us
just give up
we don't need much of anything
just give up
'cause somewhere there's a place
where we belong

rest your head
you worry too much
it's going to be alright
when times get rough
you can fall back on us
just give up
please just give up

'got to walk out of here
I can't take anymore
going to stand on that bridge
keep my eyes down below
whatever may come
and whatever may go
that river's flowing
that river's flowing

moved on to another town
tried hard to settle down
for every job, so many men
so many men no-one needs

just give up
'cause you have friends
just give up
you're not the only one
just give up
no reason to be ashamed
just give up
you still have us
just give up now
we're proud of who you are
just give up
you know it's never been easy
just give up
'cause I believe there's the a place
there's a place where we belong

Sleeping Dragon
Reply #18 Saturday, May 14, 2005 6:44 AM
The words are "Don't give up" Written by Peter Gabriel and performed by Peter Gabriel and Kate Bush.

Puts a little different spin on the song. He wants to give up, she knows better.
MadDeez
Reply #19 Saturday, May 14, 2005 7:37 AM
damn, dude!! stop acting like a child
neophil78
Reply #20 Saturday, May 14, 2005 8:24 AM
The words are "Don't give up" Written by Peter Gabriel and performed by Peter Gabriel and Kate Bush


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