What level of Longhorn will you be running?
More details regarding Longhorn requirements
Thursday, April 28, 2005 by Frogboy | Discussion: WinCustomize News
So is your PC up to snuff when it comes to Longhorn? And if so, what level of quality will you get out of it? This article at Microsoft-Watch goes into some detail on this.
Double Zero
Reply #2 Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:24 PM
Reply #2 Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:24 PM
Well of course I want Aero!!...Just have to wait and see what will be really necessary to do so and build accordingly I suppose...
Im sure I'll have time, I dont like to jump right into new OS's as it is, I prefer to give them time to realease at least the first service pack..LoL. At least then I can assume "most" of the bugs are squashed!!
I would rather spend my time "Computing" than "Fixing"..but thats just me.
Zero.
Im sure I'll have time, I dont like to jump right into new OS's as it is, I prefer to give them time to realease at least the first service pack..LoL. At least then I can assume "most" of the bugs are squashed!!
I would rather spend my time "Computing" than "Fixing"..but thats just me.
Zero.
EventHorizon
Reply #3 Thursday, April 28, 2005 9:44 PM
Reply #3 Thursday, April 28, 2005 9:44 PM
Ive got corkys setup, 'cept 1gig of DDR2, 3.4ghz P4, and a 6800GT gfx card.
Its rather disapointing that Longhorn wont be able to run in its 'full glory' on this^ setup, if the rumors are to be believed. (which I would question)
Hard to imagine something (videogames not included) that is so graphically intensive as to require that much pixel-pushing power...It sounds pretty rediculous to me.
Its rather disapointing that Longhorn wont be able to run in its 'full glory' on this^ setup, if the rumors are to be believed. (which I would question)
Hard to imagine something (videogames not included) that is so graphically intensive as to require that much pixel-pushing power...It sounds pretty rediculous to me.
bioxeed
Reply #4 Friday, April 29, 2005 1:32 AM
Reply #4 Friday, April 29, 2005 1:32 AM
a64 3500+ 1gb ram and an X850xt here.. probably bump the ram up to 2gb around longhorn time and maybe a dual core processor but you'd want to hope that this machine could run longhorn with all the candy on
and hopefully they fix the issues with 2ndary monitors being unaccellerated in longhorn. windowfx transitions kinda break on the 2nd monitor atm.
and hopefully they fix the issues with 2ndary monitors being unaccellerated in longhorn. windowfx transitions kinda break on the 2nd monitor atm.
Essencay
Reply #5 Friday, April 29, 2005 1:36 AM
Reply #5 Friday, April 29, 2005 1:36 AM
I haven't seen anything that makes me want to upgrade to Longhorn. I've got all the eye candy and added functionality I need with my ODNT subscription and I use a lot less resources. 
_Martin_
Reply #6 Friday, April 29, 2005 2:09 AM
Reply #6 Friday, April 29, 2005 2:09 AM
... and it's a lot cheaper that upgrading your hardware!
thomassen
Reply #7 Friday, April 29, 2005 4:25 AM
There's a lot more to Longhorn than meet the eye. It's just not what you usually hear about.
Reply #7 Friday, April 29, 2005 4:25 AM
| I haven't seen anything that makes me want to upgrade to Longhorn. I've got all the eye candy and added functionality I need with my ODNT subscription and I use a lot less resources. |
There's a lot more to Longhorn than meet the eye. It's just not what you usually hear about.
TexasJoe
Reply #8 Friday, April 29, 2005 5:30 AM
Reply #8 Friday, April 29, 2005 5:30 AM
my laptop: Pentium M Dothan 745 1.8Ghz 1GB memory and Radeon Mobility 9700 128MB (DX9, AGP 4X)
and my computer is just an inch below the recommendations for laptops, but I should be able to run Aero Glass just fine
To my knowledge they recommend Pentium M 750 1.86Ghz, so a small 60Mhz clockspeed difference shouldn't hurt too much
FYI, 1.86Ghz Pentium M exactly matches the performance of a desktop 3ghz Pentium 4 processor
So you definitely exceed the recommendations and y'all shouldn't worry!
You don't need no dual-core processor: the purchase of this type of processor cannot be justified on the sole basis of the upgrade to Longhorn. Buy it only if you're using processing-power greedy applications, like video editing and 3D rendering or others that exploit multiple cores.
and my computer is just an inch below the recommendations for laptops, but I should be able to run Aero Glass just fine
To my knowledge they recommend Pentium M 750 1.86Ghz, so a small 60Mhz clockspeed difference shouldn't hurt too much
FYI, 1.86Ghz Pentium M exactly matches the performance of a desktop 3ghz Pentium 4 processor
So you definitely exceed the recommendations and y'all shouldn't worry!
You don't need no dual-core processor: the purchase of this type of processor cannot be justified on the sole basis of the upgrade to Longhorn. Buy it only if you're using processing-power greedy applications, like video editing and 3D rendering or others that exploit multiple cores.
Double Zero
Reply #10 Friday, April 29, 2005 7:28 AM
Reply #10 Friday, April 29, 2005 7:28 AM
That is a nice chip Texas Joe..im using the other one..LoL 3gig P4 800/512FSB..
Other substandard features include 1 Gig Geil PC3200 dual channel DDR Ram, Asus 9600XT Gfx card..and so on..
Well perhaps not, I actually "Compute" with my computer (I know it is so weird, but it's what I do..LoL) and my processor is max'd at 100% 24/7...My justifcation for getting the "Dual Core" is exactly that..more computing power..
As for Longhorn and the advancement of technology, well it is sad, but at some point one does have to give up the old and bring in the new, as support is no longer provided for the older stuff... You can either be on the tail end of it, or on the cutting edge..somwhere in the middle works to..LoL..but eventually you will have little choice..
But then thats a long way off from now!..
Zero.
Other substandard features include 1 Gig Geil PC3200 dual channel DDR Ram, Asus 9600XT Gfx card..and so on..
| You don't need no dual-core processor: the purchase of this type of processor cannot be justified on the sole basis of the upgrade to Longhorn. |
Well perhaps not, I actually "Compute" with my computer (I know it is so weird, but it's what I do..LoL) and my processor is max'd at 100% 24/7...My justifcation for getting the "Dual Core" is exactly that..more computing power..
As for Longhorn and the advancement of technology, well it is sad, but at some point one does have to give up the old and bring in the new, as support is no longer provided for the older stuff... You can either be on the tail end of it, or on the cutting edge..somwhere in the middle works to..LoL..but eventually you will have little choice..
But then thats a long way off from now!..
Zero.
paxx
Reply #11 Friday, April 29, 2005 9:49 AM
Reply #11 Friday, April 29, 2005 9:49 AM
My current computer certainly couldn't run Longhorn, as my video card doen't even have 3D acceleration. I have plenty of RAM and disk space, but the processor is also a bit old, although it does what I need it to do quite fine (1.4 Ghz). I won't be upgrading to Longhorn, that's for certain, as I can't justify buying a new computer just for the sake of running a new OS.
When I choose to buy a new PC, Longhorn will probably be pre-installed on it by then.
When I choose to buy a new PC, Longhorn will probably be pre-installed on it by then.
Tarkus
Reply #12 Friday, April 29, 2005 10:31 AM
How do you know? Seems people are making an awful lot of assumptions about a product that's not even close to being finalized.
Reply #12 Friday, April 29, 2005 10:31 AM
| I haven't seen anything that makes me want to upgrade to Longhorn. I've got all the eye candy and added functionality I need with my ODNT subscription and I use a lot less resources. |
How do you know? Seems people are making an awful lot of assumptions about a product that's not even close to being finalized.
Essencay
Reply #13 Friday, April 29, 2005 12:16 PM
Not making any assumptions. I've had an ODNT subscription for a couple of years and I am quite happy with it and the real innovation that Stardock has delivered on. What I've seen so far about Longhorn does not entice me to run out and buy it when it is finally released. I know that MS hasn't finalized its latest OS. I also know that the closer MS gets to when they really need to release a new OS, they seem to be dropping parts of what was supposed to be innovative and new with Longhorn. WinFS dropped, for now and will be available to XP users when it arrives. Palladium scaled back, I use XP Home at home and don't need the additional secure environment like a corporation would. Avalon in beta and available to XP users. IE7 when finished will be released to XP users as well. My current PC setup is more than powerful enough to handle the "Aero Glass" GUI, but why waste my resources on that and reduce my current level of productivity? As for eye candy, hands down nothing coming from MS will compare to what already exists here at WC and if it does have an appeal to the masses, like Aero, Tiger, etc., then surely someone will create/have created skins for us to use.
Reply #13 Friday, April 29, 2005 12:16 PM
| How do you know? Seems people are making an awful lot of assumptions about a product that's not even close to being finalized |
Not making any assumptions. I've had an ODNT subscription for a couple of years and I am quite happy with it and the real innovation that Stardock has delivered on. What I've seen so far about Longhorn does not entice me to run out and buy it when it is finally released. I know that MS hasn't finalized its latest OS. I also know that the closer MS gets to when they really need to release a new OS, they seem to be dropping parts of what was supposed to be innovative and new with Longhorn. WinFS dropped, for now and will be available to XP users when it arrives. Palladium scaled back, I use XP Home at home and don't need the additional secure environment like a corporation would. Avalon in beta and available to XP users. IE7 when finished will be released to XP users as well. My current PC setup is more than powerful enough to handle the "Aero Glass" GUI, but why waste my resources on that and reduce my current level of productivity? As for eye candy, hands down nothing coming from MS will compare to what already exists here at WC and if it does have an appeal to the masses, like Aero, Tiger, etc., then surely someone will create/have created skins for us to use.
TexasJoe
Reply #14 Friday, April 29, 2005 1:56 PM
Reply #14 Friday, April 29, 2005 1:56 PM
Essencay: you certainly need to document yourself on Longhorn. I've personally watched hours of interviews in which developpers were detailing all the parts that'll make up codename Longhorn and any one who has that kind of interest in OS's and software technology advancement in general can't deny the fact that Longhorn will be a giant leap forward!
PLUS - "but why waste my resources on that and reduce my current level of productivity" = erroneous, this has no basis in fact --> your same hardware running Longhorn will start your favorite applications from 30 to 40% faster
PLUS - the fact that WinFS, Avalon and Indigo are back-ported to Windows XP SP2 could somehow mean that Longhorn will be a mere update to XP like Windows ME Millennium is a misunderstanding of the situation. You only see part of the picture (so far).
What makes a big difference here is that Microsoft finally decided to respond to customer feedback. This next version of Windows is built by a team with a vision. This is no crazy talk: see all the fuss about Longhorn and it's going to grow.
PLUS - "but why waste my resources on that and reduce my current level of productivity" = erroneous, this has no basis in fact --> your same hardware running Longhorn will start your favorite applications from 30 to 40% faster
PLUS - the fact that WinFS, Avalon and Indigo are back-ported to Windows XP SP2 could somehow mean that Longhorn will be a mere update to XP like Windows ME Millennium is a misunderstanding of the situation. You only see part of the picture (so far).
What makes a big difference here is that Microsoft finally decided to respond to customer feedback. This next version of Windows is built by a team with a vision. This is no crazy talk: see all the fuss about Longhorn and it's going to grow.
TexasJoe
Reply #15 Friday, April 29, 2005 2:30 PM
Reply #15 Friday, April 29, 2005 2:30 PM
I forgot to say that the 3 pillars Indigo, Avalon and WinFS will be back-ported to XP in such a way that their implementation on XP will offer an incomplete experience compared to their implementation on codename Longhorn. I don't have yet many examples to illustrate my point. Security will be a relatively big issue here: these components won't be as secure on XP as they will be on LH because LH is their native environment - kind of. There's also the graphics using the Avalon language: it's optimized for LH and compatible with XP, but with scaled-down performance.
Essencay
Reply #16 Friday, April 29, 2005 3:10 PM
Reply #16 Friday, April 29, 2005 3:10 PM
Thanks TexasJoe for the insight. I have not spent a lot of time looking into Longhorn. I don't have the time or energy for such matters. Just stating what I've read or perhaps misread so far....and maybe that is or should be a concern for MS. Quick perceptions that folks, who don't have a deep interest in the inner workings of an OS, carry, right or wrong, tend to stick with them. BTW, I do understand that Longhorn is not the latest MS attempt at another WinME...
so far....and maybe that is or should be a concern for MS. Quick perceptions that folks, who don't have a deep interest in the inner workings of an OS, carry, right or wrong, tend to stick with them. BTW, I do understand that Longhorn is not the latest MS attempt at another WinME...
Essencay
Reply #17 Friday, April 29, 2005 3:13 PM
That meaning the average consumer....me
Reply #17 Friday, April 29, 2005 3:13 PM
| Quick perceptions that folks, who don't have a deep interest in the inner workings of an OS |
That meaning the average consumer....me
werewolf
Reply #19 Friday, April 29, 2005 5:05 PM
Reply #19 Friday, April 29, 2005 5:05 PM
I'll probably just update my XP with whatever features MS provides. I'll wait for the inevitable SP's before I update to the whole shebang.
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Reply #1 Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:04 PM
Whatever version I can run on a PCIexpress 925XE chipset, 3.2 Ghz P4, 1066/800 Mhz FSB, 2 GB (533 DDR2) RAM, and a Radeon X800 PCIe Video adapter is what I will be running - because that is what I am currently purchasing individual parts to build.
I would say that Stardock products will continue to do well with this new OS - good news for those of us who love the stuff.