See Longhorn, don't show Longhorn
Microsoft asks sites not to show LH screenshots..
Wednesday, April 27, 2005 by Frogboy | Discussion: WinCustomize News
Microsoft is showing off Longhorn this week at WinHec. But they're asking users to not show screenshots of Build 5048 in screenshots on websites. Our friends at Neowin and other sites have been asked by Microsoft not to show such screenshots (the EULA for 5048 indicates that you won't put up screenshots).
So what's the deal? Well there's a lot of speculation. Lockergnome's Chris Prillo put it bluntly - "It looks like ass." as the reasoning MS doesn't want it out there. 5048 doesn't have the DWM enabled by default and when it is enabled, it's quite pokey, even on good hardware right now. Bear in mind, this is pre-beta stuff.
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BX
Reply #22 Thursday, April 28, 2005 12:24 PM
Reply #22 Thursday, April 28, 2005 12:24 PM
just went far far high from my mind. Trying to understand what MS wants????
-xino
Reply #23 Thursday, April 28, 2005 1:12 PM
Reply #23 Thursday, April 28, 2005 1:12 PM
obviously few people have actually read anything about what is going on with the whole screenshot "debacle". MS claims, which makes perfect sense if you have any idea about the patent system, is that in the 5048 build there are parts of the OS they are still applying patents for. to cover their butt legally, they can't have anyone post screenshots that show off what they're working on. MS is a large corporation and the larger the company, usually, the longer it takes for patents to be passed. whereas a small company/single person could make something derivitive and get it passed through faster since they have less legal issues to deal with since they are more than likely not a world company. everyone wants to go after MS, for whatever reason, and they are just trying to cover their collective bases.
think of this as the car industry does. long before any photos are shown of the new car models, they drive test their machines with car-"bras" hiding everything cosmetic, except for the body shape. if any of you have seen any of the field tests, speed tests, etc. that car makers do, then you would know what I might be referring to. unfortunately I don't have any photos to link to that show what I'm talking about.
keeping screenshots off of the web isn't hurting anyone.
I just find it funny that alot of people (mostly on neoweenie) that judge an entire new OS based on it's GUI, which has yet to be finalized. sort've like judging a skin by it's screenshot and not using it. or we could always use the old stand-by line of "don't judge a book by it's cover."
think of this as the car industry does. long before any photos are shown of the new car models, they drive test their machines with car-"bras" hiding everything cosmetic, except for the body shape. if any of you have seen any of the field tests, speed tests, etc. that car makers do, then you would know what I might be referring to. unfortunately I don't have any photos to link to that show what I'm talking about.
keeping screenshots off of the web isn't hurting anyone.
I just find it funny that alot of people (mostly on neoweenie) that judge an entire new OS based on it's GUI, which has yet to be finalized. sort've like judging a skin by it's screenshot and not using it. or we could always use the old stand-by line of "don't judge a book by it's cover."
thomassen
Reply #24 Thursday, April 28, 2005 6:10 PM
Yes, there was something on the news in Norway not too long ago when a photographer presented a photo of a Mercedes that had the bonnet covered up when they where testdriving it
Reply #24 Thursday, April 28, 2005 6:10 PM
| think of this as the car industry does. long before any photos are shown of the new car models, they drive test their machines with car-"bras" hiding everything cosmetic, except for the body shape. if any of you have seen any of the field tests, speed tests, etc. that car makers do, then you would know what I might be referring to. unfortunately I don't have any photos to link to that show what I'm talking about. |
Yes, there was something on the news in Norway not too long ago when a photographer presented a photo of a Mercedes that had the bonnet covered up when they where testdriving it
Frogboy
Reply #25 Thursday, April 28, 2005 6:11 PM
Reply #25 Thursday, April 28, 2005 6:11 PM
Perception is reality. Longhorn looking "like ass" at a trade show reflects badly on the OS.
If quality was the only issue that mattered, we'd be using OS/2 today.
-xino
Reply #26 Thursday, April 28, 2005 10:37 PM
Reply #26 Thursday, April 28, 2005 10:37 PM
I can see people complaining about the OS if it was a month away from release, but we have close to 18 months left to the final build.
I see it like how voo or myself show previews in #stardock. Show a little bit of a preview (say at most 100x100 pixels) and save the full blown preview until it's near release or released. That's just my take on it.
Apple doesn't show previews of the OS it's currently working on, and whether or not they've announced it makes no difference. We all know they are working on a new OS or a new update. From my point of view as a consumer, I save my comments and judgements until I see a finished product. As of right now I'm running PS CS2 (trial) but since it's not a "real" final build of it, I'm saving my harsh (and there are several) critisisms until I use a final product.
I see it like how voo or myself show previews in #stardock. Show a little bit of a preview (say at most 100x100 pixels) and save the full blown preview until it's near release or released. That's just my take on it.
Apple doesn't show previews of the OS it's currently working on, and whether or not they've announced it makes no difference. We all know they are working on a new OS or a new update. From my point of view as a consumer, I save my comments and judgements until I see a finished product. As of right now I'm running PS CS2 (trial) but since it's not a "real" final build of it, I'm saving my harsh (and there are several) critisisms until I use a final product.
laurentfr
Reply #27 Friday, April 29, 2005 6:06 AM
In the great age on the internet, any 13 year old kid can download LH 5048 from warez and complain after that it sucks because it is not finished, dismissing the fact that 1/ they did not have any right to install it and 2/ it is only intended for hardware and drivers development. This whole LH story is a joke.
Reply #27 Friday, April 29, 2005 6:06 AM
I can see people complaining about the OS if it was a month away from release, but we have close to 18 months left to the final build. |
In the great age on the internet, any 13 year old kid can download LH 5048 from warez and complain after that it sucks because it is not finished, dismissing the fact that 1/ they did not have any right to install it and 2/ it is only intended for hardware and drivers development. This whole LH story is a joke.
GreenReaper
Reply #28 Friday, April 29, 2005 12:01 PM
Reply #28 Friday, April 29, 2005 12:01 PM
"If the wheel was flat to begin with, putting another flat on the rim wont solve your problem"
Fortunately Stardock is in the business of selling wheel upgrades with flashy hub covers.
Fortunately Stardock is in the business of selling wheel upgrades with flashy hub covers.
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Reply #21 Thursday, April 28, 2005 11:17 AM