Rating skins
A screenshot is NOT the skin
Friday, February 4, 2005 by Jafo | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
It beggars the question how someone thinks they can rate a Litestep theme, or a Dx theme ....or any equivalent 'complex' skin....WB, WA, WMP, etc when all they are likely to know of it is the screenshot....as they do not DL and run the work, or even have not ever used the program.
A screenshot is one happy snap of [as example, an LS theme...perhaps 1600 lines of hand-written code and hundreds of images taking weeks to create] ....yet some twit will go 'der...look at dat piccie...ho-hum' and consign the work to the depths of obscurity for no valid reason than their own ignorance.
Rate the skin/theme...not its 'pretty picture'.
If you are not genuinely knowledgable about a particular skinning 'field', take the initiative to opt-out of judging it at all.
You will only do the skinners and their work a gross injustice...[and raise people's ire]...
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Reply #46 Sunday, February 6, 2005 4:11 AM
Reply #47 Sunday, February 6, 2005 4:21 AM
Good to see #41 onwards treating the topic with disdain and/or contempt.
Strange....when it's every skinners' rights/reputations, even your own, that are being marred by ratings misuse.
Reply #48 Sunday, February 6, 2005 4:27 AM
Reply #49 Sunday, February 6, 2005 4:42 AM
Reply #50 Sunday, February 6, 2005 6:41 AM
Something like:
Screen Shot (1-9)
Usability (1-9)
Appearance (1-9)
etc?
Im not sure what others or what would be put in there, but this would give the rating system a little more depth, Have 4-5 items that you need to rate, and these would have to do with the actual USE of the skin.
Just my 2 cents.
Reply #51 Sunday, February 6, 2005 6:46 AM
The only thing wrong with this rating system is the people who use it.
No matter what you change the system to a dick-head is still a dick-head 
Reply #52 Sunday, February 6, 2005 7:17 AM
| No matter what you change the system to a dick-head is still a dick-head |
Absolutely!
I don't understand anybody rating something they don't use and therefore understand themselves. I only rate things I've used. And I only comment if the item appeals to me or the skinner asked for suggestions/comments and I feel I might have something to offer. I see no point otherwise.
Reply #53 Sunday, February 6, 2005 9:16 AM
One thing that I would like to see changed is the wording to the 5 stars. For the middle star, it is worded as "it's ok." Not a very appealing description of either a 5 or 6 point critique.
Instead of:
1. I hate it
2. I don't like it
3. It's ok
4. I like it
5. I love it
I'd personally prefer to see:
1. needs work
2. getting better
3. good
4. very good
5. excellent
(or something like that)
Granted, this suggestion is coming from a softie preschool teacher, but no matter how tough and thick skinned we all like to think we are, a gentler type of patriarchal criticism is more appropriate for it's "children" to want to progress.
"I hate it"...is insulting and offensive right from the get go.
A kinder/gentler wording presentation of a ratings system would provide less emotional pain for everyone involved.
Reply #54 Sunday, February 6, 2005 9:26 AM
Reply #55 Sunday, February 6, 2005 10:30 AM
Why not have it so a rating can't be applied by a user, till they have at least downloaded that skin. That won't gaurantee (sp?) the user will install the skin, but it may dissuade some from abusing the intent of rating skins. Some may think twice about rating a bunch of skins at "1" if they have to contribute to that skins' download totals too.
Just a thought. Good thread Jafo.
Reply #56 Sunday, February 6, 2005 11:29 AM
There is a solution.. Need to download to rate -> If the person still abuses after that -> Punishment and removal of ratings
Reply #57 Sunday, February 6, 2005 11:34 AM
Although we all have the rights to our opinion I believe as a leader, a wizop that maybe some respect should be shown towards members and I believe that by calling people (dickheads) is completely unacceptable. And even worse, administrator Jafo utters the same thing calling people dickheads. I can only say that this whole thing I find appalling and definetely will nto be visiting this thread again. But maybe the two of you should learn some respect for yourselves..we have to learn to respect ourselves before respecting others. Because if you did respect yourself you wouldnt be calling people other names. i'm sorry,but thats only my opinion. No use replying I am not visiting this thread again.
Reply #58 Sunday, February 6, 2005 11:57 AM
Someone rating everything 5 stars is just as bad as someone rating everything 1 star. Do you punish both of the people?
In the end the rating will balance out and what you see is normally a pretty good idea of whether the skin is good or bad.
Since noone and everyone here is a professional critic
I choose to now ignore the ratings. Human nature will always cause people (myself included) to do stupid things. Things I cannot control nor can any ratings system. Its part of displaying work for the public. Your going to get the best and worst mankind has to offer reviewing what you feel is decent work. Live with it. Rating something based on a screenshot just seems rediculously irresponsible. Rate what you use.
Personally, I would love to have the ratings viewable. Who rates it and what they rated it. Just a wish.
Reply #60 Sunday, February 6, 2005 1:59 PM
Good words NT. However, it still doesn't excuse people rating skins they could never comprehend the use of, or marking down the opposition to boost their own work. It may be human nature, but it is unacceptable human nature.
In answer to your other point, as many warnings have gone out to people rating too high as have to people rating too low Both are frowned upon equally.
Butch123 - you need to get out more
My own personal view on ratings, long known here, is that ratings should be attached to comments. You can then see who rated, and read why they think the rating should be so. This is how it is done on other sites I visit. It would encourage more comments being left and discourage the drive-by idiots from spamming either comments or ratings.
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Reply #41 Saturday, February 5, 2005 8:41 PM