Firefox Skins?
Where are they
Sunday, January 9, 2005 by Sleeping Dragon | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
Brad put out a feeler question about what new categories we would like to have here at WC. One of the biggest requests was that we get a section for FireFox skins. Apparently Deviant Art is overflowing with them, and I know that Brad took a look at DA and agreed we should have one.
Where are the skins? We have a category that has remained at "0" skins since the day it was opened. Do those skins take longer to make than others, or are people just going to DA out of habit and selection, or is there really not a need?
Just curious, after so many people requested it, why there are not skins. Is anyone working on one?
Where are the skins? We have a category that has remained at "0" skins since the day it was opened. Do those skins take longer to make than others, or are people just going to DA out of habit and selection, or is there really not a need?
Just curious, after so many people requested it, why there are not skins. Is anyone working on one?
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Weaksid
Reply #22 Wednesday, January 12, 2005 8:37 AM
Reply #22 Wednesday, January 12, 2005 8:37 AM
Nope, things are slightly diffrent between the two.
You however may be able to port the thunderbird skin to Firefox and just fill in the blanks. By what I was looking, they aren't much diffrent.
You however may be able to port the thunderbird skin to Firefox and just fill in the blanks. By what I was looking, they aren't much diffrent.
horiz0n
Reply #23 Wednesday, January 12, 2005 10:13 PM
Reply #23 Wednesday, January 12, 2005 10:13 PM
Thunderbird is email, Firefox is a browser, thats a pretty big difference 
that would be the same thing as an Outlook Express skin being submitted to an Internet Explorer theme catagory. Unlike Firefox, Thunderbird doesn't have near the amount of popularity or demand, if it ever does then you might see a catagory for it. *shrug* I'm still curious on how you actually edit themes not to mention install them.
that would be the same thing as an Outlook Express skin being submitted to an Internet Explorer theme catagory. Unlike Firefox, Thunderbird doesn't have near the amount of popularity or demand, if it ever does then you might see a catagory for it. *shrug* I'm still curious on how you actually edit themes not to mention install them.
CerebroJD
Reply #24 Wednesday, January 12, 2005 10:26 PM
Reply #24 Wednesday, January 12, 2005 10:26 PM
The .jar files are just renamed zips...I think.... 
joeKnowledge
Reply #25 Wednesday, January 12, 2005 11:35 PM
Reply #25 Wednesday, January 12, 2005 11:35 PM
yes to above.
http://joeknowledge.wincustomize.com/articles.aspx?SID=2069&aid=59287&UID=1017553#0
http://joeknowledge.wincustomize.com/articles.aspx?SID=2069&aid=59287&UID=1017553#0
horiz0n
Reply #26 Thursday, January 13, 2005 12:41 AM
Reply #26 Thursday, January 13, 2005 12:41 AM
I guess I should re-word, I wish it was either more simple to edit or someone would say exactly what you need to do in plain english. Step by step instructions or something, hell maybe "skinning firefox for dummies", I only understand 5 languages; English, HTML, Lingo, ActionScript, and " 1337 ]-[ /-\ >< 0 |2 " so all this other stuff is just jargon for the rest of us 
Lotherius
Reply #27 Thursday, January 13, 2005 2:00 AM
Reply #27 Thursday, January 13, 2005 2:00 AM
I think that the difficulty of skinning firefox is why it is taking so long for them to appear. I hope that is why. I just noticed the FireFox section myself, for what it's worth. Was there a front page announcement about the added section? Maybe the right people just haven't noticed/been notified that it's here?
Weaksid
Reply #28 Thursday, January 13, 2005 12:37 PM
Reply #28 Thursday, January 13, 2005 12:37 PM
Yea, there was a annoucement for it.
And for skinning Thunderbird and Firefox. By what I was looking at while searching on how to skin Firefox. They are not much diffrent. I don't use Thunderbird so I can't check to make sure of that.
And for skinning Thunderbird and Firefox. By what I was looking at while searching on how to skin Firefox. They are not much diffrent. I don't use Thunderbird so I can't check to make sure of that.
WickedP
Reply #29 Monday, January 17, 2005 10:39 PM
Reply #29 Monday, January 17, 2005 10:39 PM
Well, I finally got it done...have a look.
https://www.wincustomize.com/ViewSkin.aspx?SID=1&SkinID=4&LibID=38
Wicked.
https://www.wincustomize.com/ViewSkin.aspx?SID=1&SkinID=4&LibID=38
Wicked.
CerebroJD
Reply #30 Tuesday, January 18, 2005 12:00 AM
Reply #30 Tuesday, January 18, 2005 12:00 AM
I like it Wicked!
(mine borked my Firefox, so I had to abandon it
)
(mine borked my Firefox, so I had to abandon it
)
TN Brat!
Reply #31 Tuesday, January 18, 2005 1:07 AM
Reply #31 Tuesday, January 18, 2005 1:07 AM
Wicked, thanks I love, it! I can't ever get too many Firefox skins, and was sad to see that only one has made it here after all the requests. Though I just happen to have loads of them I haven't even used yet so I can wait to get more...
I to, am trying to learn to skin Firefox,(thanks to David Lanham for allowing the port of Somatic to Firefox) and find that it's much like everyone else says, there are just loads of things to change...and huge amount of images...so wish me luck, please.
Oh, and I would honestly not object one bit to getting Thunderbird skins on here too! There aren't enough of them either, but I think that's only a matter of time, because once someone tries it they get hooked...or at least I did...heck I tried it because it had a built in Spell Checker, but the junk mail controls are really great too.
You guys may want to actualy consider changing the catagory from Firefox to Mozilla, and then have sub-catagories for both Thunderbird and Firefox...Just a thought, but it may help fill the gallery up a little...
I to, am trying to learn to skin Firefox,(thanks to David Lanham for allowing the port of Somatic to Firefox) and find that it's much like everyone else says, there are just loads of things to change...and huge amount of images...so wish me luck, please.
Oh, and I would honestly not object one bit to getting Thunderbird skins on here too! There aren't enough of them either, but I think that's only a matter of time, because once someone tries it they get hooked...or at least I did...heck I tried it because it had a built in Spell Checker, but the junk mail controls are really great too.
You guys may want to actualy consider changing the catagory from Firefox to Mozilla, and then have sub-catagories for both Thunderbird and Firefox...Just a thought, but it may help fill the gallery up a little...
Weaksid
Reply #32 Tuesday, January 18, 2005 11:22 AM
Reply #32 Tuesday, January 18, 2005 11:22 AM
I would be almost done with mine but several things have slowed me down. Everything seems to be happening at once, but I guess that's life. I may work on it a little at school today. All I got to say is it's FREEZING!!!! I'm in Altoona, PA if you wonder where I am.
I'm in Altoona, PA if you wonder where I am.
Weaksid
Reply #33 Saturday, January 22, 2005 12:51 AM
Reply #33 Saturday, January 22, 2005 12:51 AM
WickedP,
Hey, I need a little nudge on this. I've started it and It's getting there. I however am stuck on trying to change the background color or add a image to the whole browser? I disabled windowsblinds because it seems to take over it. I took apart your skin and you used the layout alot of people seem to be using. I'm using the classic style for my first on then go from there. But which .css file deals with the color for the browser? I can't seem to find the right one or I did look at it and didn't look close enough.
Hey, I need a little nudge on this. I've started it and It's getting there. I however am stuck on trying to change the background color or add a image to the whole browser? I disabled windowsblinds because it seems to take over it. I took apart your skin and you used the layout alot of people seem to be using. I'm using the classic style for my first on then go from there. But which .css file deals with the color for the browser? I can't seem to find the right one or I did look at it and didn't look close enough.
horiz0n
Reply #34 Saturday, January 22, 2005 6:24 AM
Reply #34 Saturday, January 22, 2005 6:24 AM
you know it's funny how often i thought "why isn't this skin working" but then i started noticing little fine print of things like "you must have windowblinds for this to be fully skinned" dunno if thats just the way some people made theirs or not.
Weaksid
Reply #35 Monday, January 24, 2005 1:36 AM
Reply #35 Monday, January 24, 2005 1:36 AM
Just wanted to say that I'm getting there. I finally made it past that hump with the background. I would of figured it out sooner but I haven't had much time to sit down and work on it. Here is a screenshot of what it looks like so far. It has work left to be done to it. I'm not sure how much I can get done though before the end of this month. I'm going to at least try to have it done.
Edit:
I forgot to add that the background is just a temp for trial. I'm going to be making changes to it but it will looks something around that.
Edit:
I forgot to add that the background is just a temp for trial. I'm going to be making changes to it but it will looks something around that.
joeKnowledge
Reply #37 Monday, January 24, 2005 5:12 PM
Reply #37 Monday, January 24, 2005 5:12 PM
Guys this is my honest opinion. I do not think Firefox has to be totally skinned. Having the icons skinned is enough in my opinion. The OS takes care of the rest. If you have windowblinds then its even better.
this is what I get so far from limited playing around with the thing, does anybody see something different?
this is what I get so far from limited playing around with the thing, does anybody see something different?
WickedP
Reply #38 Monday, January 24, 2005 5:19 PM
Reply #38 Monday, January 24, 2005 5:19 PM
Joe,
You've got it right...the only thing I'm doing in addition to the toolbar icons, are the buttons, radio buttons, and checkboxes. I also tweak the tabbar to match the color schemes.
Wicked.
You've got it right...the only thing I'm doing in addition to the toolbar icons, are the buttons, radio buttons, and checkboxes. I also tweak the tabbar to match the color schemes.
Wicked.
CerebroJD
Reply #39 Monday, January 24, 2005 5:36 PM
Reply #39 Monday, January 24, 2005 5:36 PM
I dont think it needs to be totally skinned either. Heck, I dont WANT it totally skinned....I'd prefer that WB handle the tabs and stuff. 
Weaksid
Reply #40 Monday, January 24, 2005 10:21 PM
Reply #40 Monday, January 24, 2005 10:21 PM
Well, this is mine without windowblinds loaded. It's suppose to go with my ObjectDock skin "Alien Chrome". I still got several icons left to make. I'm trying to be creative on some so they don't match other people's icons and it goes with the alien theme. It's getting closer though.
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Reply #21 Wednesday, January 12, 2005 3:07 AM
Email from WinCustomize:
Dear MarkCarson,
Thank you for your recent upload of your Thunderbird Winstripe Unofficial for FireFox.
Unfortunately your upload has not met our guidelines and has been rejected.
Skins for this section is be for Firefox only
However we do look forward to your future submissions.
Sincerely,
The WinCustomize Staff
Mark Carson
2200/11-JAN-2005
Link to download page: Thunderbird "Winstripe" Theme