LAME!!!
Friday, January 7, 2005 by IMAGEOD | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
people know what they are doing is removing my skins from the visible library and its not fair, they said they were doing it and why, yet no1 cares. I think this system is rigged, because only people with a user level of 4 and higher can rate and that means that they are subscribers and or skinners who want to hold other skinners as down as possible. People dont even download my skins anymore they just click one. Look at the comments at https://www.wincustomize.com/ViewSkin.aspx?SkinID=1289&LibID=25&comments=1 im sick of people just clicking 1. I think there should be a few more rules so people in 'power' dont hold all the cards, i think that you should state why you are rating the skin the way you are rating it, that you should only get to rate 1 skins per artist per day, that people who abuse ratings should lose thier user level, and that skins with a rating of 2 are lower are not hidden by default . Ive made several posts trying to get staff attention yet i continue being ignored. Most the nasty comments i recieve are about my NICK, i find that to be very stupid, what does my name have to do with my skins.
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WebGizmos
Reply #62 Saturday, January 8, 2005 6:20 AM
Reply #62 Saturday, January 8, 2005 6:20 AM
You hit the nail right on the head Essencay...after reading his comments and seeing his attitude in this forum he's been written off as a waste of bandwidth and good air. 
WOM
Reply #64 Saturday, January 8, 2005 7:50 AM
Reply #64 Saturday, January 8, 2005 7:50 AM
Jafo isn't God, but he will strike you down. (from this site)
XX
Reply #65 Saturday, January 8, 2005 8:34 AM
Reply #65 Saturday, January 8, 2005 8:34 AM
Actually, there is god in here, and His name is Frogboy.
The moderators is pretty close to being deities themselves.
The moderators is pretty close to being deities themselves.
qrush
Reply #67 Saturday, January 8, 2005 11:20 AM
Reply #67 Saturday, January 8, 2005 11:20 AM
ok, let me say something. There will be NO idol worship on WC! (This is exactly what other sites accuse of us, btw)
Anywho to IMGOD: First of all, let's take a look at your cursors. Maybe the skinners around here can offer some advice. I'm trying to be as positive as possible, and I'm sure others are as well. So please try to recognize the fact that we're here to HELP, not HURT your skinning experience. (If you choose to ignore the comments, please read the paragraphs below them then at the very least)
OK, here's your latest set. The problem here is that it really looks like it was made after 20 minutes spent with MS Paint. Perhaps a few light filters were thrown on it in Photoshop, but it really looks awkward.
The issue is here that the preview image looks REALLY confusing. There are no labels or anything besides the author and title, so all of these cursors are totally unorganized and irrevelant to the normal user. One could get a sense of animation through them, but if you notice with the other preview images for CursorXP sets, authors usually do not show it off because it looks a bit strange and jumbled.
So, what's the issue here? Everyone may be avoiding it. It is SKILL. However, this is not a god-given trait in many cases. (*snurk*) Your ratings and download counts may be low because the average WC user looks at this skin and immediately dislikes it. Why? Any of the veterans here would say: "Wow, this guy spent little to no time thinking about HOW this set looks in relation to its functionality." Yes, just because it works for YOU doesn't mean it works for everyone else. I've found this with programming especially, but it applies to skinning as well. Also to address the preview image issue: I have an IconPackager skin called GANT2. When I first uploaded it, its preview image maybe only showed 6 icons and didn't look good at all. However, once I updated it, I whipped up a new preview image filled with only the BEST icons and plenty of TEXT to explain how and what would affect the user's computer. Let's try an approach from this angle instead next time.
Also, I'd SERIOUSLY recommend heading over to Good-Tutorials.com, or simply googling "Photoshop tutorials" to try to improve that skill. Not everyone is born with uber l33t Photoshop skillz, everyone has to work hard at it first to get the hang of it. I guarantee if you do several tutorials and spend the time to learn the craft first, producing the art will become more easier, more fun, and more successful for you.
And I'll take the first step for you...CHANGE THE NAME. You'll thank us later.
Anywho to IMGOD: First of all, let's take a look at your cursors. Maybe the skinners around here can offer some advice. I'm trying to be as positive as possible, and I'm sure others are as well. So please try to recognize the fact that we're here to HELP, not HURT your skinning experience. (If you choose to ignore the comments, please read the paragraphs below them then at the very least)
OK, here's your latest set. The problem here is that it really looks like it was made after 20 minutes spent with MS Paint. Perhaps a few light filters were thrown on it in Photoshop, but it really looks awkward.
The issue is here that the preview image looks REALLY confusing. There are no labels or anything besides the author and title, so all of these cursors are totally unorganized and irrevelant to the normal user. One could get a sense of animation through them, but if you notice with the other preview images for CursorXP sets, authors usually do not show it off because it looks a bit strange and jumbled.
So, what's the issue here? Everyone may be avoiding it. It is SKILL. However, this is not a god-given trait in many cases. (*snurk*) Your ratings and download counts may be low because the average WC user looks at this skin and immediately dislikes it. Why? Any of the veterans here would say: "Wow, this guy spent little to no time thinking about HOW this set looks in relation to its functionality." Yes, just because it works for YOU doesn't mean it works for everyone else. I've found this with programming especially, but it applies to skinning as well. Also to address the preview image issue: I have an IconPackager skin called GANT2. When I first uploaded it, its preview image maybe only showed 6 icons and didn't look good at all. However, once I updated it, I whipped up a new preview image filled with only the BEST icons and plenty of TEXT to explain how and what would affect the user's computer. Let's try an approach from this angle instead next time.
Also, I'd SERIOUSLY recommend heading over to Good-Tutorials.com, or simply googling "Photoshop tutorials" to try to improve that skill. Not everyone is born with uber l33t Photoshop skillz, everyone has to work hard at it first to get the hang of it. I guarantee if you do several tutorials and spend the time to learn the craft first, producing the art will become more easier, more fun, and more successful for you.
And I'll take the first step for you...CHANGE THE NAME.
You'll thank us later.
butch123
Reply #68 Saturday, January 8, 2005 11:32 AM
Reply #68 Saturday, January 8, 2005 11:32 AM
Citizen IMGOD5552666 As you know I am not one that criticizes anybody's work and have absolutely no intention of criticizing yours. But if you would like to take some construction advice what I think is the best thing to do is after you make your cursors or whatever take a good hard look at them. And not from the point of the artist, but from the point of the critic. As you know we are our own worst critics...at least I am...and if you can say that you really like it and you dont think you can do any better than you have done your best and if other people dont like it not much you can do about that. After all if you are happy with it, what does points matter? 
FilkoSE
Reply #69 Saturday, January 8, 2005 2:58 PM
Reply #69 Saturday, January 8, 2005 2:58 PM
I've looked at your submissions and I agree with you in a way. There are things that need to addressed. NO ONE deserves to get comments like you did! They are nasty and should be removed. Something like that shouldn't be tolerated here. If some liked and well respected WC authors would get the same comments as you did, I'm sure (as it happened in the past) the comments would be removed and possibly the people posting them would be exiled or at least warned. Which should be done in this case as well...
The same respect should be shown to everyone.
If some submissions are "UGLY," than I think it's up to moderators to eliminate them before they get uploaded at all.
Secondly, you cannot criticize people for choosing their own settings. It's nothing you should be mentioning in the first place. It's none of your business. If you suspect a foul play regarding your ratings, contact the moderators. (It's kinda hard to believe that rightfully you get only one skin out of 60 with a rating of 5 and the rest is below that.) And even though it's true your peview shots need a lot of improving, the preview shots shouldn't be used for rating purposes. To rate a skin fairly, people should open the application, try it and then come back to rate it.
As far as your name goes, it should be up to anyone's choosing and it's no one else's business. But, you shouldn't insult people who believe that it's inappropriate nor you should behave like a little brat and to be disrespectful to other people's beliefs with your stupid comments like the one above.
But I've definitely seen much worse here and much more offensive to religious people.
The same respect should be shown to everyone.
If some submissions are "UGLY," than I think it's up to moderators to eliminate them before they get uploaded at all.
Secondly, you cannot criticize people for choosing their own settings. It's nothing you should be mentioning in the first place. It's none of your business. If you suspect a foul play regarding your ratings, contact the moderators. (It's kinda hard to believe that rightfully you get only one skin out of 60 with a rating of 5 and the rest is below that.) And even though it's true your peview shots need a lot of improving, the preview shots shouldn't be used for rating purposes. To rate a skin fairly, people should open the application, try it and then come back to rate it.
As far as your name goes, it should be up to anyone's choosing and it's no one else's business. But, you shouldn't insult people who believe that it's inappropriate nor you should behave like a little brat and to be disrespectful to other people's beliefs with your stupid comments like the one above.
But I've definitely seen much worse here and much more offensive to religious people.
Matchbook
Reply #70 Saturday, January 8, 2005 3:58 PM
Reply #70 Saturday, January 8, 2005 3:58 PM
Um, I get this feeling he doesn't really care, folks. LOL.. Just a feeling..
InkyPixels
Reply #72 Saturday, January 8, 2005 5:24 PM
Reply #72 Saturday, January 8, 2005 5:24 PM
Okay, I'm out of lurk mode for a sec.
I just wanted to add my two Cent$ worth...
As far as something being unfair, I've seen perfectly amazing skins get shoved off of the 'new skins' library because someone pumped out 2 or 3 skins that are barely passable, re-colored or even without anti-alias (ugh). So, if anyone has a reason to gripe it's the skinners who take not minutes, not hours, not days but weeks and sometimes MONTHS to complete an entire skin or a whole suite.
Imgod, I'm actually afraid to try your skins (yeah, your screens need improving)...and some of the comments have been overly harsh in some places but in all honesty I think it really is an insult to those who work so very hard to make something of quality and not quantity when you don't seem to put that extra effort in to polish up your works or even your screenshots.
I'm just curious... What skin that you've completed thus far has given you reason to feel pride and a sense of accomplishment yet? Can you name one and why you feel that way about it?
Whatever you do, don't get too discouraged. If everyone told you your stuff was always great you'd never improve and you'd have a false sense of security in your work.
Honestly? Do you want MORE people to see your work for real, only for more bashing of your skins etc.? If you look at the odds, your skins get a high percentage of negative feedback so if everyone could see them don't you think that would at least double or even triple? Is that what you really want?
~On a side note~
--I plan on trying my hand at skinning soon myself. I'll probably suck but I won't submit something until I feel it doesn't suck any longer even if it takes me weeks or even months. That way, if I get constructive criticism on a work I did that I truly WORKED on I'll take pride in knowing someone took the time to truly look at my work and appreciate it enough to help me better it!
Peace to you and yours and a happy 2005 to all!
I just wanted to add my two Cent$ worth...
As far as something being unfair, I've seen perfectly amazing skins get shoved off of the 'new skins' library because someone pumped out 2 or 3 skins that are barely passable, re-colored or even without anti-alias (ugh). So, if anyone has a reason to gripe it's the skinners who take not minutes, not hours, not days but weeks and sometimes MONTHS to complete an entire skin or a whole suite.
Imgod, I'm actually afraid to try your skins (yeah, your screens need improving)...and some of the comments have been overly harsh in some places but in all honesty I think it really is an insult to those who work so very hard to make something of quality and not quantity when you don't seem to put that extra effort in to polish up your works or even your screenshots.
I'm just curious... What skin that you've completed thus far has given you reason to feel pride and a sense of accomplishment yet? Can you name one and why you feel that way about it?
Whatever you do, don't get too discouraged. If everyone told you your stuff was always great you'd never improve and you'd have a false sense of security in your work.
Honestly? Do you want MORE people to see your work for real, only for more bashing of your skins etc.? If you look at the odds, your skins get a high percentage of negative feedback so if everyone could see them don't you think that would at least double or even triple? Is that what you really want?
~On a side note~
--I plan on trying my hand at skinning soon myself. I'll probably suck but I won't submit something until I feel it doesn't suck any longer even if it takes me weeks or even months. That way, if I get constructive criticism on a work I did that I truly WORKED on I'll take pride in knowing someone took the time to truly look at my work and appreciate it enough to help me better it!
Peace to you and yours and a happy 2005 to all!
wulfn1
Reply #73 Saturday, January 8, 2005 9:47 PM
Reply #73 Saturday, January 8, 2005 9:47 PM
I have my settings so I see all the new stuff. I am not impressed with any of your work to date. That's why I don't download it. I don't comment because I prefer to have something constructive to say or remain silent.
Your name is not offensive as much as it is infantile and comic in a tragic kind of way.I looked at your work first, your name second. neither was worth a second look.
if you were rated a 1, consider yourself lucky. I and many others wouldn't take the time to rate something that difficult to view.
Your name is not offensive as much as it is infantile and comic in a tragic kind of way.I looked at your work first, your name second. neither was worth a second look.
if you were rated a 1, consider yourself lucky. I and many others wouldn't take the time to rate something that difficult to view.
EventHorizon
Reply #74 Saturday, January 8, 2005 10:26 PM
Reply #74 Saturday, January 8, 2005 10:26 PM
There will always be kids who (at a given time) really have no 'feel for the ropes' of the online world, so they may sound awkward/offensive, where in reality, they're just a little confused. (I, for some reason, am more likely to believe the shown Decade-younger age of his DA account than his posted age here at WC)
Cut 'em a little slack, as far as telling him that his stuff is crap..I dont think that will 'help' anyone accomplish anything here...and perhaps...(for those 'in power') consider a revisal of the 'policy' on uploading skins...
If a skin is so God-Awful that only a brainless idiot would download it...It shouldnt be accepted.
What you are doing currently is 'offending' the VAST majority of users/skinners by allowing crap to accumulate in the libraries, all in order to avoid offending just ONE wannabe-skinner. People who spend large amounts of time on a single high-quality skin have perhaps a day at the top of the page in a library before being buried by 'under-par' submissions.
Hey, you 'offend' countless numbers of wall-artists by rejecting large amounts of their work every single day, why not do the same for the skins?
Cut 'em a little slack, as far as telling him that his stuff is crap..I dont think that will 'help' anyone accomplish anything here...and perhaps...(for those 'in power') consider a revisal of the 'policy' on uploading skins...
If a skin is so God-Awful that only a brainless idiot would download it...It shouldnt be accepted.
What you are doing currently is 'offending' the VAST majority of users/skinners by allowing crap to accumulate in the libraries, all in order to avoid offending just ONE wannabe-skinner. People who spend large amounts of time on a single high-quality skin have perhaps a day at the top of the page in a library before being buried by 'under-par' submissions.
Hey, you 'offend' countless numbers of wall-artists by rejecting large amounts of their work every single day, why not do the same for the skins?
WebGizmos
Reply #75 Saturday, January 8, 2005 11:53 PM
Reply #75 Saturday, January 8, 2005 11:53 PM
I think by now, he either gets it or he doesn't.
And I have to agree with EventHorizon...many of his skins should have never made it to the libraries. By allowing so many of them through it sortof sends the wrong message and leaves him to the wolves.
And I have to agree with EventHorizon...many of his skins should have never made it to the libraries. By allowing so many of them through it sortof sends the wrong message and leaves him to the wolves.
katnapper
Reply #76 Sunday, January 9, 2005 4:07 AM
Reply #76 Sunday, January 9, 2005 4:07 AM
Sadly, I think you are using your nickname and attitude to attract attention to yourself that cannot be garnered by either the quality or quantity of your work. Inundating the site with shoddy skins/cursors and then creating a ruckus by complaining and flaming people for not liking them (after many are only trying to give constructive criticism) is not the path to getting your work appreciated. Your conduct here is shameful and disgusting, and totally inappropriate for someone serious about being included in the skinning community.
Rutabaga64
Reply #77 Sunday, January 9, 2005 11:49 AM
Reply #77 Sunday, January 9, 2005 11:49 AM
It appears IMGOD has been banned at Deviant Art...at least, that's what his profile over there suggests. Based on some of the comments I've seen him make here, I can only assume that he made similar comments at Dev Art, and the admins finally showed him the door. It seems as if he hasn't learned that his behavior is considered offensive by some, or else he doesn't care. And, sad to say, I can only assume it's the latter. Especially after his comment in #53 above, which I am ever so grateful that Jafo has noted and warned him about.
I really don't care all that much about IMGOD's cursors quality-wise, although I do agree with the comments others have made regarding his preview pics...they are so poorly done that they don't cause me to go "yippee!!!" and download the cursors. Better preview pics are a must. What really does chap my hide, though, is his attitude that if you have never skinned anything, you have no right to verbalize any criticism or comments regarding his efforts. That is pure tripe, and is a further indication of immaturity.
And just as an aside, I'm a Christian and do find the nickname offensive, mostly because of the juxtaposition of "God" with "666." I'm sure he thinks it's the height of cleverness, but this is the truly lame thing, as far as I'm concerned. And his behavior only makes it worse. I consider him the burr under WC's saddle at the moment.
I really don't care all that much about IMGOD's cursors quality-wise, although I do agree with the comments others have made regarding his preview pics...they are so poorly done that they don't cause me to go "yippee!!!" and download the cursors. Better preview pics are a must. What really does chap my hide, though, is his attitude that if you have never skinned anything, you have no right to verbalize any criticism or comments regarding his efforts. That is pure tripe, and is a further indication of immaturity.
And just as an aside, I'm a Christian and do find the nickname offensive, mostly because of the juxtaposition of "God" with "666." I'm sure he thinks it's the height of cleverness, but this is the truly lame thing, as far as I'm concerned. And his behavior only makes it worse. I consider him the burr under WC's saddle at the moment.
Sleeping Dragon
Reply #78 Sunday, January 9, 2005 12:12 PM
Reply #78 Sunday, January 9, 2005 12:12 PM
Personal views of faith and skin quality aside, I'm hoping he will stay here, but amend his ways. I believe in 2nd, 3rd and 100th chances. If the community or the site suffers, though, than the situation has to be dealt with.
butch123
Reply #79 Sunday, January 9, 2005 2:00 PM
Reply #79 Sunday, January 9, 2005 2:00 PM
You know its very obvious that anybody that would post messages like "If I am not God, then may the real God strike me dead" definetely has some kind of problem. I really dont believe that the comments are going to help. Maybe as a community we should try to help him, which might be difficult but never impossible. Maybe I am just softhearted but I think there is good in everybody and maybe we should try and find it. I know for sure that if I can do anything to help him, I'm there. Just read between the lines, not very hard to do. And as for his work, that should be up to the moderators. If it is really really that bad then just dont accept it. Its very easy to send an email saying this is not to our standards. And this was applied then most of this thread wouldnt even be happening. Just my opinion.
Lynx's Den
Reply #80 Sunday, January 9, 2005 2:34 PM
Reply #80 Sunday, January 9, 2005 2:34 PM
Being Native American and following my heritage to a tee, there has never been a time where i have judged anyone for their faith, beliefs, or what-not.... I have watch this thread from the outset and have to admit, have had my laughs, and discusts, regarding some of the comments. As Jinn mentioned it definently looks like IMGOD is banned from Deviant. My thought is, why would someone use a name like that (not to mention that he signed up at Deviant almost a year ago), then signup to a new site using the same name knowing that it offends others (then complains about it), not to mention using IMGOD, then following it up with 666, my question is what god is he refering too? (sounds like and IQ, Mental Mind-set issue here)....
As far for the issue of his talent, well from what i have seen i have to agree with the comments made here regarding it. It needs work my friend.... I do not claim nor have i ever claimed to be a pro, but my advise, learn to take critusizm 1-21\2 stars just doesn't cut it, you have talent but it needs to be honed (improved).... Personaly i thrive on critusizm, even at 3-5 stars i always feel there is room for improvement, Bottom line- you need to learn to except custructive critusizm, instead of getting offened when ever a seasoned vet (or experienced Individuals) are trying to give you some of their advice, instead of being hard headed, it should show you that people think you have talent and are willing to lend you a hand to improve it.... Learning to do so will also strengthen character and in-turn will give you the respect from your peers that you deserve.... Think about it!
As far for the issue of his talent, well from what i have seen i have to agree with the comments made here regarding it. It needs work my friend.... I do not claim nor have i ever claimed to be a pro, but my advise, learn to take critusizm 1-21\2 stars just doesn't cut it, you have talent but it needs to be honed (improved).... Personaly i thrive on critusizm, even at 3-5 stars i always feel there is room for improvement, Bottom line- you need to learn to except custructive critusizm, instead of getting offened when ever a seasoned vet (or experienced Individuals) are trying to give you some of their advice, instead of being hard headed, it should show you that people think you have talent and are willing to lend you a hand to improve it.... Learning to do so will also strengthen character and in-turn will give you the respect from your peers that you deserve.... Think about it!
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Reply #61 Saturday, January 8, 2005 6:18 AM
My advice is keep trying and improving. I can care less about the name. It's just amazing that it past moderation, unless they don't moderate the cursors. I admit, some of my work has been declined and so has alot of the other skinner's work. But it just makes you push harder for something better. Unless you were just in it for the DLs.