High Resolution BootSkin
Tuesday, September 14, 2004 by JunkInternetMail | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
Has the development of the HIGH RESOLUTION version of BootSkin died?
If not, will it be made available anytime soon?
Any help is greatly appreciated!
If not, will it be made available anytime soon?
Any help is greatly appreciated!
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MarkMcQ
Reply #2 Tuesday, September 14, 2004 6:02 PM
Reply #2 Tuesday, September 14, 2004 6:02 PM
I'm not sure where you're getting your not quite accurate info from, but the chances of the high-res one seeing the light of day are very slim because the current Bootskin that's available is causing problems for some people.
Only way it'll be out is the low-res one gets to a point where it's totally bug free.
Only way it'll be out is the low-res one gets to a point where it's totally bug free.
MadPyro
Reply #3 Wednesday, September 15, 2004 9:32 AM
Reply #3 Wednesday, September 15, 2004 9:32 AM
o really? hehehe last i heard they were workin on it...
not surprising though bcuz windows only boots in 16 colors anyway so im not getting how they would get say, 256.
but like i said look through the libraries, there are many nice bootskins, here try this one gifted artist's bootskins::: https://www.wincustomize.com/myskins.asp?AuthorID=834387
not surprising though bcuz windows only boots in 16 colors anyway so im not getting how they would get say, 256.
but like i said look through the libraries, there are many nice bootskins, here try this one gifted artist's bootskins::: https://www.wincustomize.com/myskins.asp?AuthorID=834387
MarkMcQ
Reply #4 Wednesday, September 15, 2004 11:12 AM
Reply #4 Wednesday, September 15, 2004 11:12 AM
They're more than working on it, it already exists. It just won't have much hope of release unless the low res one bugs can be resolved.
MadPyro
Reply #5 Wednesday, September 15, 2004 12:56 PM
Reply #5 Wednesday, September 15, 2004 12:56 PM
ah cool. thanks hippy. nice logo on the grafiti wall
SelfExiled
Reply #6 Wednesday, September 15, 2004 9:53 PM
Reply #6 Wednesday, September 15, 2004 9:53 PM
Wow, I'd love to see that. It would kick BootXP right off the map. GO STARDOCK!!!!! YOU ROCK!!!!! 
SelfExiled
Reply #7 Wednesday, September 15, 2004 9:59 PM
From what I can see, these bugs are caused by hacks of the operating system. Legal or not, I'm referring to the OEM's. Many manufacturers like IBM, Gateway, HP, Compac, will license a operating system and then break it so that it doesn't work like it was made to work. Just so that they can get their broken software to work right. Is it Stardock's responsibility to fix it?
Reply #7 Wednesday, September 15, 2004 9:59 PM
| They're more than working on it, it already exists. It just won't have much hope of release unless the low res one bugs can be resolved. |
From what I can see, these bugs are caused by hacks of the operating system. Legal or not, I'm referring to the OEM's. Many manufacturers like IBM, Gateway, HP, Compac, will license a operating system and then break it so that it doesn't work like it was made to work. Just so that they can get their broken software to work right. Is it Stardock's responsibility to fix it?
Kevin_C
Reply #8 Thursday, September 16, 2004 7:07 AM
Actually, from what Brad has said on the topic in the past the problem is caused by some BIOS and/or mobo manufacturers having shoddy VESA implementations in some BIOSes.. As you said, it's probably caused by some engineer noticing that if he only supports half the standard VESA spec he can increase POST/boot-time by 1/10th of a second and then the marketing wonks can tout their mobo as having the fastest POST time around.. I'm being slightly sarcastic of course but you get the idea... I really hope that it will at least be released on SDC as I have never had ANY trouble with ANY build of bootskins on ANY of the 3 machines I've used it on..
Reply #8 Thursday, September 16, 2004 7:07 AM
| From what I can see, these bugs are caused by hacks of the operating system. |
Actually, from what Brad has said on the topic in the past the problem is caused by some BIOS and/or mobo manufacturers having shoddy VESA implementations in some BIOSes.. As you said, it's probably caused by some engineer noticing that if he only supports half the standard VESA spec he can increase POST/boot-time by 1/10th of a second and then the marketing wonks can tout their mobo as having the fastest POST time around.. I'm being slightly sarcastic of course but you get the idea... I really hope that it will at least be released on SDC as I have never had ANY trouble with ANY build of bootskins on ANY of the 3 machines I've used it on..
Chris TH
Reply #9 Thursday, September 16, 2004 7:18 AM
Just as a matter of interest, what makes/models were/are those machines?
Reply #9 Thursday, September 16, 2004 7:18 AM
| I have never had ANY trouble with ANY build of bootskins on ANY of the 3 machines I've used it on.. |
Just as a matter of interest, what makes/models were/are those machines?
MadPyro
Reply #10 Thursday, September 16, 2004 9:27 AM
Reply #10 Thursday, September 16, 2004 9:27 AM
my makes were:
custom- intel 865 perl board p4 3.0 ghz processor *no problems*
BOught- SOny Vaio 3.0 ghz computer with a 800something mobo not sure *no problems*
Older- p3 866hmz some crappy mobo most likely eca *no problems*
custom- intel 865 perl board p4 3.0 ghz processor *no problems*
BOught- SOny Vaio 3.0 ghz computer with a 800something mobo not sure *no problems*
Older- p3 866hmz some crappy mobo most likely eca *no problems*
SelfExiled
Reply #11 Thursday, September 16, 2004 5:43 PM
I thought VESA was only neccessary for having more than 16 colors. Hmm.
Many game manufacturers will release a game knowing that it won't work on some systems. Then, they release a patch. I'm sure that by now the gang at Stardock are aware of which Bios/Manufacturers will cause a problem with the program. Maybe they need to create a readme file or a purchase warning about certain Bios before they release the program. ObjectDock Plus had many such problems. It would be ashame not to see a program, as innovative as a full color, or even 256 color boot skin program.
Reply #11 Thursday, September 16, 2004 5:43 PM
| having shoddy VESA implementations in some BIOSes |
I thought VESA was only neccessary for having more than 16 colors. Hmm.
Many game manufacturers will release a game knowing that it won't work on some systems. Then, they release a patch. I'm sure that by now the gang at Stardock are aware of which Bios/Manufacturers will cause a problem with the program. Maybe they need to create a readme file or a purchase warning about certain Bios before they release the program. ObjectDock Plus had many such problems. It would be ashame not to see a program, as innovative as a full color, or even 256 color boot skin program.
Kevin_C
Reply #12 Thursday, September 16, 2004 7:51 PM
Let's see...
custom box: ASUS P4S533 w/ Leadtek Winfast A250 Ti4600
laptop: DELL Inspiron 8600 ATI video (not sure of the exact BIOS rev)
Work Box: Some DELL don't remember the make off the top of my head.
Oh, and it's on my other custom box that my GF has, it has an ASUS mobo as well.
Good Luck All!
Reply #12 Thursday, September 16, 2004 7:51 PM
| Just as a matter of interest, what makes/models were/are those machines? |
Let's see...
custom box: ASUS P4S533 w/ Leadtek Winfast A250 Ti4600
laptop: DELL Inspiron 8600 ATI video (not sure of the exact BIOS rev)
Work Box: Some DELL don't remember the make off the top of my head.
Oh, and it's on my other custom box that my GF has, it has an ASUS mobo as well.
Good Luck All!
kona0197
Reply #13 Thursday, September 16, 2004 8:06 PM
Reply #13 Thursday, September 16, 2004 8:06 PM
High res bootskin has worked fine for me in the past. I was using it with a P3 800 mhz setup with a chaintech mobo.
paxx
Reply #14 Thursday, September 16, 2004 8:11 PM
Reply #14 Thursday, September 16, 2004 8:11 PM
Exactly what high res Boot Screen software have you tried, Kona?
craeonics
Reply #17 Friday, September 17, 2004 7:50 AM
Reply #17 Friday, September 17, 2004 7:50 AM
I want what kona's been drinking, please.
More on topic: perhaps a list of compatible BIOSes/versions of BootSkin used should be assembled to find out when to expect problems. I see a lot of requests for help on this, so mayhap it can be usefull.
More on topic: perhaps a list of compatible BIOSes/versions of BootSkin used should be assembled to find out when to expect problems. I see a lot of requests for help on this, so mayhap it can be usefull.
Kevin_C
Reply #18 Friday, September 17, 2004 8:28 AM
This is great! Was this an early morning combination of maybe and perhaps?!? Anyway, I'd love to get my hands on the high res version of bootskins seeing as all of my machines work just fine with all of the pre-release versions!
I guess I'll just have to be patient a while longer... Man, I hate being patient..
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Reply #18 Friday, September 17, 2004 8:28 AM
| mayhap |
This is great! Was this an early morning combination of maybe and perhaps?!? Anyway, I'd love to get my hands on the high res version of bootskins seeing as all of my machines work just fine with all of the pre-release versions!
I guess I'll just have to be patient a while longer... Man, I hate being patient..
[Message Edited]
Jafo
Reply #19 Friday, September 17, 2004 8:46 AM
Reply #19 Friday, September 17, 2004 8:46 AM
'mayhap' is a real word....somewhat 'archaic', however...
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Reply #1 Tuesday, September 14, 2004 11:49 AM
meanwhile, check out some high quality bootskins