Is the windows enhancement community ready for heavy graphic skins?
Thursday, September 9, 2004 by Styl-X Design | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
Very often I find myself wondering what the big diffrence is between things like windowblinds and windows media player.
Its not hard to see that a lot of WMP skins use a lot heavier graphics then WB skins.
(note, with heavy graphic I mean 3d style).
I think its the custom shape of WMP that makes it more suitable for heavy graphic skins but wouldn't it be awesome to have a little of that 3d feeling being put in a wb skin?
I know there is some 3d in WB skins, but it never really get past an 'innershadow' filter
Whats the deal with this?
Styl-X Design fingers are starting to tintel as he has this 3d wb skin idea in his head for nearly a week now... Time to dust of skinstudio
Its not hard to see that a lot of WMP skins use a lot heavier graphics then WB skins.
(note, with heavy graphic I mean 3d style).
I think its the custom shape of WMP that makes it more suitable for heavy graphic skins but wouldn't it be awesome to have a little of that 3d feeling being put in a wb skin?
I know there is some 3d in WB skins, but it never really get past an 'innershadow' filter
Whats the deal with this?
Styl-X Design fingers are starting to tintel as he has this 3d wb skin idea in his head for nearly a week now... Time to dust of skinstudio
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Jafo
Reply #102 Friday, September 10, 2004 7:01 PM
Reply #102 Friday, September 10, 2004 7:01 PM
What genuinely amazes me is how 'Photoshopish' can be intended to infer 'Amateurish'.
Last I checked, Photoshop was the 'Industry Standard'...which means if you don't have it mastered you are unlikely to be employed within the industry [digital imaging].
This apparent discrimination between one 3D 'style' and another is purely personal opinion....and the real determination of the 'style's' popular acceptance is not the number of people adopting it in their work as much as the number of people who truly appreciate the outcome.
As for 'arrogance' of self-worth.....that is professional suicide....trust me, I've been a Professional for over 30 years.
'Blowing your own horn' is otherwise known as 'auto-fellatio'....
No actual skinner within [or without] this community has ever attained fame and popularity through arrogance, and none ever will.
Those who attempt to consider themselves somehow superior are doomed to enjoy a lonely existence in their castle in the clouds.
Again I say.....'humility is your friend'....
Watson
Reply #103 Friday, September 10, 2004 7:05 PM
What Jafo said
Reply #103 Friday, September 10, 2004 7:05 PM
| Dibs on the red base... Those blue jackals are after our secret plans! |
What Jafo said
Doreen
Reply #104 Friday, September 10, 2004 7:26 PM
Reply #104 Friday, September 10, 2004 7:26 PM
uh oh that skin is turning green now (like the yeech skin I remember)
TasT
Reply #105 Friday, September 10, 2004 8:18 PM
Reply #105 Friday, September 10, 2004 8:18 PM
TasT Squirts Dor with my super soaker ( I'll get even eventually)
Jafo the Sage speaketh the truth......
TasT thinks I must be a real amature I haven't even mastered MS Paint
Jafo the Sage speaketh the truth......
TasT thinks I must be a real amature I haven't even mastered MS Paint
Koasati
Reply #106 Friday, September 10, 2004 9:32 PM
Reply #106 Friday, September 10, 2004 9:32 PM
| all ur bases are mine !!!!! |
I believe you mean "All your bases are belong to us!" 
Doreen
Reply #108 Friday, September 10, 2004 10:37 PM
Reply #108 Friday, September 10, 2004 10:37 PM
Get even w/ me? I don't think so...
Doreen goes back to LOS and takes away alllll of TasT points
Doreen goes back to LOS and takes away alllll of TasT points
TasT
Reply #109 Saturday, September 11, 2004 12:30 AM
Reply #109 Saturday, September 11, 2004 12:30 AM
Shhhhh......
Don't tell Dor I could care less about the points
TasT wonders if Dor will run in to the trap I left for her there?
Don't tell Dor I could care less about the points
TasT wonders if Dor will run in to the trap I left for her there?
Tory Larson
Reply #110 Saturday, September 11, 2004 1:11 AM
Reply #110 Saturday, September 11, 2004 1:11 AM
As of late, it seems to me that so very many of the more "3d" looking skins are, well, not well-done. Hippy has some great stuff. That skin of Mercury's above was wonderful (although not my thing)and there are some other great skinners. But many of the more 3d skins are just beveled buttons and stuff. Reminds me of the days when 3d buttons were first catching on on the web...I don't care for the look.
Someone mentioned Mormegil's Toon-XP. That's a great example of a graphic heavy 3d skin done VERY well. It's polished, it's fun. It's immersive. I like it.
At any rate, a few people seem pretty defensive, so here's the disclaimer: I've been around since WB was Neil's project pre 1.x. I've seen just about everything that's come along. This is my opinion, and I'm entitled to it.
But, IMHO, some of the best skins were some of the first, even though they "lacked" features. (I still love decoder.)
Someone mentioned Mormegil's Toon-XP. That's a great example of a graphic heavy 3d skin done VERY well. It's polished, it's fun. It's immersive. I like it.
At any rate, a few people seem pretty defensive, so here's the disclaimer: I've been around since WB was Neil's project pre 1.x. I've seen just about everything that's come along. This is my opinion, and I'm entitled to it.
But, IMHO, some of the best skins were some of the first, even though they "lacked" features. (I still love decoder.)
HG_Eliminator
Reply #111 Saturday, September 11, 2004 1:13 AM
Reply #111 Saturday, September 11, 2004 1:13 AM
no i meant all ur bases are mine .. screw them other guys ...... 
IPlural
Reply #112 Saturday, September 11, 2004 11:48 AM
Reply #112 Saturday, September 11, 2004 11:48 AM
wonder why it is no one has pointed out the 3D space and editing in Photoshop?
as far as textures go, use your layer styles and edit as desired save, the use it again and again with minor tweaks as you like.
3D in a 2d space is an illusion of depth, if anyone thinks you can not get that illusion with any graphics progem they are mistaken.
tis a silly argument considering that a skin rendered in 3d, is still only displayed with the illusion of depth because the 3d objet it not revolved in the least and the engine can not do that to begin with so it is a 2d snap shot of a 3d object. Anyone ready to purchase Maya or MAX for skinning along with the addons for the real life like rendering?
Unless someone is going to create a 3D GUI and skinning engine to handle huge rendered objects and beable to map them out as the move whats the point of going there?
as far as textures go, use your layer styles and edit as desired save, the use it again and again with minor tweaks as you like.
3D in a 2d space is an illusion of depth, if anyone thinks you can not get that illusion with any graphics progem they are mistaken.
tis a silly argument considering that a skin rendered in 3d, is still only displayed with the illusion of depth because the 3d objet it not revolved in the least and the engine can not do that to begin with so it is a 2d snap shot of a 3d object. Anyone ready to purchase Maya or MAX for skinning along with the addons for the real life like rendering?
Unless someone is going to create a 3D GUI and skinning engine to handle huge rendered objects and beable to map them out as the move whats the point of going there?
Doreen
Reply #113 Saturday, September 11, 2004 1:40 PM
Reply #113 Saturday, September 11, 2004 1:40 PM
Yeah right TasT Boogiemen don't scare meeeee... hehe
Doreen
Reply #114 Saturday, September 11, 2004 1:40 PM
Reply #114 Saturday, September 11, 2004 1:40 PM
Doreen goes to LOS and takes away TasT "red" text (now that will hurt!)
TasT
Reply #115 Saturday, September 11, 2004 1:53 PM
Reply #115 Saturday, September 11, 2004 1:53 PM
TasT shoots Dor with another Rubberband.............
You can't take my various text colors here HeheHAha
You can't take my various text colors here HeheHAha
SelfExiled
Reply #116 Sunday, September 12, 2004 12:51 AM
Reply #116 Sunday, September 12, 2004 12:51 AM
So, I plural, can Max or Maya export to bmp,jpg, or png? With png at least there is a z layer.
SelfExiled
Reply #117 Sunday, September 12, 2004 12:53 AM
because we are all noobs and dweebs.
Reply #117 Sunday, September 12, 2004 12:53 AM
| wonder why it is no one has pointed out the 3D space and editing in Photoshop? |
because we are all noobs and dweebs.
SelfExiled
Reply #119 Sunday, September 12, 2004 1:53 AM
Reply #119 Sunday, September 12, 2004 1:53 AM
depth, easily accomplished by the transparency.
[Message Edited]
[Message Edited]
CerebroJD
Reply #120 Sunday, September 12, 2004 2:13 AM
Reply #120 Sunday, September 12, 2004 2:13 AM
Ah.
CerebroJD must investigate this further.....
CerebroJD must investigate this further.....
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Reply #101 Friday, September 10, 2004 6:40 PM