Is the windows enhancement community ready for heavy graphic skins?

Thursday, September 9, 2004 by Styl-X Design | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk

Very often I find myself wondering what the big diffrence is between things like windowblinds and windows media player.

Its not hard to see that a lot of WMP skins use a lot heavier graphics then WB skins.
(note, with heavy graphic I mean 3d style).

I think its the custom shape of WMP that makes it more suitable for heavy graphic skins but wouldn't it be awesome to have a little of that 3d feeling being put in a wb skin?
I know there is some 3d in WB skins, but it never really get past an 'innershadow' filter

Whats the deal with this?

Styl-X Design fingers are starting to tintel as he has this 3d wb skin idea in his head for nearly a week now... Time to dust of skinstudio
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MarkMcQ
Reply #61 Thursday, September 9, 2004 6:54 PM
This isn't meant to be a contest. I simply posted the pic , in response to the comment saying that kind of depth cannot be done with gradients, to show what 'can' be acheived in PS simply using nothing more than them. (Apart from the obvious outline which was stroked). It wasn't supposed to say 'This is better than yours'. May be more prudent if I remove the image.
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Jafo
Reply #62 Thursday, September 9, 2004 8:00 PM

My personal opinion....one is a 3D plastic thingie....the other is a 3D 'metallic or glassy' thingie.....either can be the other with 5 minutes of button-clicking in PSP.

Now...

If it's about personal perception of what looks good then maybe it's neither cos I prefer grey.

What IS important about the quality of image creatable via one software vs another is the skill of the artist, not whether the proggy is primarily 2D or 3D in methodology.

You people DO REALIZE that anything made in Terragen or Bryce can be replicated perfectly well in MSPaint [given time, skill and vision].

People get all 'thingie' about pixel-art, layers, and/or 3D render/generation yet all any method does is fool your eye into 'pretending' something has a third dimension.

Study the 'mechanics' [mathematics] of Perspective, Skiagraphy, and Architectural Rendering [without AutoCAD], put aside personal preferences relating to 'shine', be consistent with light-source and realise humility is your friend...

paxx
Reply #63 Thursday, September 9, 2004 10:03 PM

Styl, your design is all right, but you really need to take a modesty pill.

The way you started this thread was basically saying that all the existing skins are boring and looked Photoshopish, while you could do much better in 3D.  The truth is that, while you design is pretty nice, it really is not better than a lot of nice 3ish skins available it doesn't look any less Photoshopish. It may be frustrating that what you probably put a lot of work into, was recreated just as well in 5 minutes by an established and experienced skinner.  Just remember that some people here have been creating skins for many years and their work shows for it.  You come around like a student who argues with the teacher thinking he knows more than him.

If I can give you an advice, be a bit more modest and people will like your work better.  If you present something as a revolution in skinning and end up showing something similar to what is done, people will be harder on you than if you would have presented it with a lot more modesty.

EventHorizon
Reply #64 Thursday, September 9, 2004 10:11 PM
...And listen to the wise words of paxx...
Doreen
Reply #65 Thursday, September 9, 2004 10:32 PM
actually it does not even matter the master or the student or paint or PhotoShop each skin appeals to diff ppl I've seen ppl pass up a good pro skin for a yeech skin (you'd have to be a real old timer to remember what a yeech skin looked like) hehe

but the bottom line is for every type of skin there is a user who will appreciate pro or non pro good looking or newbie looking...
Doreen
Reply #66 Thursday, September 9, 2004 10:35 PM
alright w/ that being said most likely the good skin will have a billion downloads vs the yeech looking skin but stillll the yeech skin "will" get downloads no matter how horrid it may look to most ppl...
Doreen
Reply #67 Thursday, September 9, 2004 10:36 PM
okay okay! so I did not read the whole thread only what paxxy said but I had to butt in
Jafo
Reply #68 Thursday, September 9, 2004 10:37 PM
Doreenosis, I see.....thought you had it under control.....
Doreen
Reply #69 Thursday, September 9, 2004 10:40 PM
I think, I think in pieces or something?
Doreen kicks the spell checker
Jafo
Reply #70 Thursday, September 9, 2004 10:44 PM
Jafo blows Doreen a kiss.....while rubbing shins....
HG_Eliminator
Reply #71 Thursday, September 9, 2004 10:45 PM
eeekkk..
Sugaree
Reply #72 Thursday, September 9, 2004 10:49 PM
Yeech!
lovesblessing
Reply #73 Friday, September 10, 2004 12:58 AM
Ahem! My opinion is they would both look better if they were colored purple!!!!!!!!!!!


lovesblessing says sorry guys! I couldn't resist after reading this whole thread, I just felt the need for a quick "Hide-Jacking"!!!!!!! MMMMMMMMooooooooo!
Styl-X Design
Reply #74 Friday, September 10, 2004 1:06 AM
be a bit more modest and people will like your work better


Paxx, I really wasn't saying that this was something revolutionairy, or atleast, I wasnt trying to. I know its done before and this was just an example (I have this thing arround for a while now) of what I call 3d style.

How can people like my work better if I am more modest? Am I missing something?
Styl-X Design
Reply #75 Friday, September 10, 2004 1:08 AM


I like 'em green Green is always better
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pjpowell
Reply #76 Friday, September 10, 2004 2:12 AM
Styl: You have to remember that people are subjective creatures. Your attitude has a lot to do with whether people will download your work. If you come across as a bighead a lot of people will ignore your work.
Watson
Reply #77 Friday, September 10, 2004 10:37 AM
Styl, that's a pleasing look
TasT
Reply #78 Friday, September 10, 2004 11:22 AM
Green is ok but it should really be gray....

both images look great...

TasT thinks that everyone should stop fussin and get back to finishin' the skin.....
SelfExiled
Reply #79 Friday, September 10, 2004 12:57 PM
TasT thinks that everyone should stop fussin and get back to finishin' the skin.....


Na, my next skin is going to take months. I'd rather fuss in the meantime.
HG_Eliminator
Reply #80 Friday, September 10, 2004 1:26 PM
styl .. the best way to drive off a consumor/user is to be arrogant...ive seen really talentd skinners never get a chance because they were rude,cocky, or just plain full of themselves ... not to mention .. other skinners here colaborate to make skins.. u will find your invites to join such groups,far and few if you are percieved as "hard to work with" or "arrogant".
remember theres many here that have been skinning for years and built reps that are untouchable.. to come off as "hey ur stufs ok but can you handle this ?" is not only boastful but can be seen as an insult. there are a few here who helped start the skinning craze many years ago, long before Builder blinds/W.B. or WC was around...
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