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Friday, August 13, 2004 by Csurfside | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk

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Csurfside
Reply #41 Monday, August 16, 2004 1:56 PM
I have a clean install of lite step and then just the one theme called Fetchi. But it wont gimme the satisfaction of staying still. 10 hrs later...I still wont give up.
Csurfside
Reply #42 Monday, August 16, 2004 2:07 PM
Ok, I went to this site http://shellfront.org/department.php?id=litestep and on the right side of the page there is an installer that says "Lite Step Installer"

I downloaded and installed it "fresh"

Then I did like Jafo suggested above and downloaded the RC3 files and put them in the c:\litestep\ directory.

Then I downloaded and installed the Fetchi Lite Step theme and installed it by double clicking it.

It downloaded the modules and I double checked to ensure that they were there.

Im running Windows XP pro Pentium 4 2.53 Ghz with a gig of ram and 128 geforce graphics card.

When I start the Fetchi theme the bars on the left and right just dissappear from the screen and on occaision I cant even do anything but hit my EMERGENCY fall out switch!

The default theme works fine.

I am probally going to test a few others.

Can anyone provide a link to the module "Desktop2.dll version 1.4" Just so I can be sure that I have that correct one. Even though Im pretty sure I do. Im losing to much sleep over this. I really have to find another hobbie.lol

Any help would be appreciative.

Now I am going to go back to the Lite Step Site in the link above and continue reading.

I check this post every time I blink so leave a comment would be nice!
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Csurfside
Reply #43 Monday, August 16, 2004 3:27 PM
Im so fed up with this crap.

I reformatted my whole hard drive and now after reinstalling the lite step and themes. I cant even get any theme to work properly but the default one. What the hell is going on. Im so pissed. Not at you guys, just pissed it wont work after all I have done. And to top it all off I am worse off now then when I started.\\

and so is skinning....
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Im so done for the day!
Csurfside
Reply #44 Monday, August 16, 2004 3:34 PM
Every damn theme I install has a mind of its own. Fetchi can't stay still, Nondisjunction has that damn .box problem, Antares Flip shortcuts work when they want too. but half the time they just keep thier backs turned to me. Immortalized shows mutiple pics of my object dock when I use the multiple desktop to cycle. Gemini wont stay on top. andthat damn Nos os wont let me use the background.

All of these minus 2 worked fine yesterday. Now Im so frustrated I could just sling this f*^$ing pC right out the damn window.

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Csurfside
Reply #45 Monday, August 16, 2004 3:42 PM
Sigh..................................................agr

I quit for tonight.


Why JAFO why me........ Tell me damn it.
Jafo
Reply #46 Monday, August 16, 2004 4:57 PM

When 'someone' invented the OTS and OTS2 standards the world of LiteSTEP was going to be a 'piss-easy' environment.

Not so.

In THEORY module version downloads, etc being automated 'should' solve many issues...but I think there is clearly some 'issues' to resolve for those without sufficient patience to successfully problem-solve.

csurfside...

It appears that much of your problems are stemming from 'layercut.dll'...the module that handles the animated shortcuts that my 'animated' themes are now using.

This module is [or appears to be] buggy....and that usually means it leaks like a sieve.

I have had a heck of a lot of 'fun' convincing them to work.....still every now and then on recycle, those Antares 'panels' refuse to rotate.....usually only one of them...which is really odd....

My first suggestion is you stop using any themes with 'layercuts' in them.

There are squillions of other themes to use.

Perhaps I should go back to the antiquated 'rainmation.dll'....at least it works....[though proggy loading doesn't on the RC builds....at least the anis work].

One really important pre-requisite of Litestep using is....patience.

Generally, re-installing Litestep is not necessary.....the Installer works.....make sure everything is 'normal' with placements....don't install LS to a folder called 'aardvarks' or something silly....always dl any module mentioned/requested by the 'netloadmodule' lines.....they are not in Litestep distros by default, hence the theme request for them to be added.

Learn to 'debug' your own theme installations by commenting out alternate modules in the theme.rc to see if odd behaviour stops....or worsens [don't comment out the 'desktop' or 'jdesk' modules....whichever used....or the theme won't run at all....[nothing to interract with].

With any visual 'load' on your screen.....games, alpha-blending, animations, it's important to have up-to-date graphic drivers.....as the 'bugs' may just be in your system, not the OS shell/theme.

More often than not it is very difficult to debug anothers' computer by remote.

One vaguelly possible way is to zip [with paths] your entire Litestep directory and subdirectories and perhaps email them to me.....I can install and see what happens......that will at least rule out any actual LS issue, meaning it's something else in your system...

Jafo
Reply #47 Monday, August 16, 2004 5:00 PM
Also.....I'm on Messenger....[faster solution than the MB].... [email protected] ....
Csurfside
Reply #48 Tuesday, August 17, 2004 8:03 AM
Jafo

I tried what you advised yesterday. No luck. The nipple's are flat!
Csurfside
Reply #49 Wednesday, August 18, 2004 9:48 AM
Jafo

Any chance you could update Fetchi so that it does'nt use the Layer cut you described?
Jafo
Reply #50 Wednesday, August 18, 2004 7:02 PM

csurfside....layercuts is the module that provides the animations.

Originally Nijikon Fetchi used rainmation.dll which is a much older module and doesn't handle evars, etc and modern tricky bits.....layercuts is better in many ways but still seems to have issues of its own.

The only solution is to use shortcut.dll instead and do away with the animation.....a backward step for most...as it'll lose some of its 'fun'....

Csurfside
Reply #51 Thursday, August 19, 2004 6:23 AM
Oh well. I suppose I will work at it some more.

If all else fails im Zipping.-.-.-.-.-. the bad boys up and sending them your way.
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