The Premium skins poll - (week of 7/14)

Tuesday, July 13, 2004 by Kyhlwch | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk

Your current poll - "Would you use Premium skins?" needs a few more choices if you want an accurate result.

I vote, "It's reasonable for skins creators to charge for their work but I personally can't spend any more money on this hobby than I already have."

There really are positions between "I like to support skinners" and "I don't like to support skinners."
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Swedenskins
Reply #41 Friday, July 16, 2004 6:03 PM
About Premiumskins, to be, or not to be, I think there must be premiumskins, you can´t eat gratitude ,but I suggest something else:
Why don´t create an account for each skinner, pay the skinners 10 cent for each downloaded skin,and everybody will be happy.
Even Stardock will be happy, there will be more skinners,more downloads, higher quality in general, and they could sell more software, and people could pay with the money they earn on their skins.
Of course every softwaredeveloper should get paid for their work, and Stardock also,like ObjectDock+, don´t you think so Frogboy
kona0197
Reply #42 Friday, July 16, 2004 6:13 PM
I've never heard such utter tripe in all my years of skinning.


Yes you have... from me.

(Just Kidding)
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Essencay
Reply #43 Friday, July 16, 2004 6:42 PM
LOS already offers the ability to upload premium content, problem is, anyone can upload anything and I can see where that would bring out the attitude of people uploading dooky . I think WC is taking the right approach to this and I don't think it is taking anything away from what WC already offers the skinning community. All WC would be doing is providing another service to skinners without them having to invest the time and money into maintaining their own website to offer premium content. Apparently WC appreciates the efforts of skinners to absorb this cost.

As for the comment about the ease of creating WB skins....I would say this "easy to do....hard to master"
Jafo
Reply #44 Friday, July 16, 2004 7:10 PM

Skinning WinAMP  [2x] is far easier than Windowblinds....though perhaps that's cos I'm old-school....using neither Skin Studio nor Builderblinds.....just the same tools as used in WA....notepad and PSP.

Either way, skinning Windowblinds is a lot harder than MindlessPuppet surmises....there may be 3000 plus WB skins here....but look closely for how many of them are actually fully complete AND original [not 'derived' from another].   That'll be living proof of their real 'complexity'.

I think the definitive 'word' on paying-for-skins is....you may wish they [skins] always remain free.......but they won't.

You can become a skinner and release your own skins freely ad infinitum.

Others will not.

A free market economy will determine the future viability of both....

Frogboy
Reply #45 Sunday, July 18, 2004 6:03 PM

MindlessPuppet: I don't think one side is "wrong.  And btw, I agree with you on one thing, I think some people here need to cool their "opinions". I don't like seeing caustic responses (like some of the ones directed at you).  What's the point of having a conversation if one is going to feel like they're going to get jumped on for having the "incorrect" opinion?

I think people have every right to think that skins should always be free.  My point was merely that the existence of premium skins would be consistent with the rest of the industry.

Kyhlwch
Reply #46 Wednesday, July 21, 2004 5:39 PM
As the original poster, I'd like to reiterate that I think Premium Skins is a fine idea. My issue was with the wording of the poll.

Old news now but I still think that it was a mistake to frame the subject in those two options: support skinners or free skins forever. It's a false dichotomy.

It's possible to want to support skinners but through differnt methods: free hosting, free advertising, donations and so on. It's valid to suggest that support for the skinners should be in a different method than money.

It's also possible to agree with the idea that skinners deserve monetary compensation and still not be able to do it. This is where I'm at. It's not because I don't -want- to support them. The bottom line is I've already spent $40 on WB & IP. I don't have another $6 or so for each of the skins I love.

And yes that means if all skins were $6 I wouldn't use them. (And I wouldn't have bought WB & IP either.)

I'd buy Premium skins but not at that price and/or not in my current circumstances. That's an option that doesn't appear on the old poll and it's one that skinners (and Stardock) might want to consider.
MarkMcQ
Reply #47 Wednesday, July 21, 2004 8:16 PM

#39 by MindlessPuppet - 7/16/2004 1:00:47 PM
Anyhow this is all based on opinions, personally i wish we had a few *nix users in here

You've got one right here. And he's part of a team that has made pay-for suites. Not all Linux users are of the 'free beer' group.

IPlural
Reply #48 Thursday, July 22, 2004 2:11 AM
Oh hell no, Hippy you don't turn down Free Beer



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MarkMcQ
Reply #49 Thursday, July 22, 2004 5:21 AM
You got me there.....
paxx
Reply #50 Thursday, July 22, 2004 7:58 AM
Besides, it's a little off topic, but more and more there are commercial software SOLD on the Linux platform.  "Everything is free on Linux" is slowly becoming a thing of the past.
I.R. Brainiac
Reply #51 Thursday, July 22, 2004 11:29 AM
Hmmmmmmm....even if no one ever released another free skin,there are over 3000 free ones now.Not bad for a 20 dollar program.
CerebroJD
Reply #52 Thursday, July 22, 2004 11:55 AM
^ Good point.

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