So...gonna go see Farenheit 9/11?
Thursday, June 24, 2004 by Hus | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
I'm not big on politics, but this is one movie you should spend $9.50 on. It opens in theaters tomorrow, so clear up your schedules and go buy the tickets! 
For those who haven't heard the buzz/controversy about this movie, here's the trailer. http://www.fahrenheit911.com/trailer/
For those who haven't heard the buzz/controversy about this movie, here's the trailer. http://www.fahrenheit911.com/trailer/
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xaznfiredrgnx
Reply #42 Saturday, June 26, 2004 12:51 AM
Reply #42 Saturday, June 26, 2004 12:51 AM
I can see what kind of people are here...betcha both Conservs and Liberals... Moore's films are undoubtedly polarized and by the view point of Republicans undoubtedly "un-American". Even by some Demos he does seem to hate the country (in particular Bush and his men) a lot. This is said in no doubt as you can see what he said in last year's oscars about Bush. I myself live in America, but I'm not an American, there's no such thing as being "un-American" and if you are one of those who has so deeply patriotic feelings toward your country, then i feel bad for you. To me such blind patriotism is no more than blatant stupidity and ignorance to waht is realy going on out there. News stations are inevitably biased and always seems to show you the "bad news" and the truth cannot really be conveyed through them. The only way for one to see what's going is if they were there first hand. And since not many of you have been out there, there's no way you can comment on everything based on your beliefs.
Evorg
Reply #43 Saturday, June 26, 2004 12:52 AM
Reply #43 Saturday, June 26, 2004 12:52 AM
I've always view Michael Moore as the Richard Hoagland of documentaries
IPlural
Reply #44 Saturday, June 26, 2004 1:26 AM
Reply #44 Saturday, June 26, 2004 1:26 AM
one thing positive about the movie even for those who say at this time they will not ever watch it.
it has people talking...
it has people talking...
paxx
Reply #45 Saturday, June 26, 2004 7:03 AM
Reply #45 Saturday, June 26, 2004 7:03 AM
I have read a few articles about this movie yesterday, and it's all very good.
One journalist was saying that he couldn't believe that this documentary really had the artistic qualities that earned it the Palme d'Or at Cannes. But he said that he was actually surprised when he saw the movie. Moore apparently masters very effective cinematic techniques in this fast paced movie that really does a good job trying to convince you about "the truth". The jouralist said that he has no idea if all of this was true or not, in this day and age where the NY Times has to appologise for publishing false information, it's so difficult to find out what the truth really is. However, this movie sure raises doubt in your mind. Moores' open intentions are to stop Bush from being elected at the next presidential elections. Will he raise enough doubts in the Americans minds to influence people's votes I guess we will have to wait and see.
One journalist was saying that he couldn't believe that this documentary really had the artistic qualities that earned it the Palme d'Or at Cannes. But he said that he was actually surprised when he saw the movie. Moore apparently masters very effective cinematic techniques in this fast paced movie that really does a good job trying to convince you about "the truth". The jouralist said that he has no idea if all of this was true or not, in this day and age where the NY Times has to appologise for publishing false information, it's so difficult to find out what the truth really is. However, this movie sure raises doubt in your mind. Moores' open intentions are to stop Bush from being elected at the next presidential elections. Will he raise enough doubts in the Americans minds to influence people's votes I guess we will have to wait and see.
Blood Rayne
Reply #46 Saturday, June 26, 2004 11:09 AM
Reply #46 Saturday, June 26, 2004 11:09 AM
I'm leaving in about a half hour to go see it. I'm such an idiot. Sometimes I can't stand myself. 
Matchbook
Reply #47 Saturday, June 26, 2004 11:47 AM
Reply #47 Saturday, June 26, 2004 11:47 AM
I'd hate myself if I *didn't* see it or want to see it. I can't imagine hating a man so much as to pass up the opportunity to look at things from a different perspective or perhaps one I didn't ponder [let's face it, no one can cover EVERY angle on their own].
I suppose it's like the "Hey everyone!.. Let's ALL hate Celine Dion because she's successful, has a beautiful voice and if someone denies that we can always fall back on the same old tear-down 'she doesn't write her own material!'"
I suppose it's like the "Hey everyone!.. Let's ALL hate Celine Dion because she's successful, has a beautiful voice and if someone denies that we can always fall back on the same old tear-down 'she doesn't write her own material!'"
Aleatoric
Reply #48 Saturday, June 26, 2004 12:04 PM
Reply #48 Saturday, June 26, 2004 12:04 PM
I don't care one way or the other about Moore. The reason I won't see his work is that he has zero credibility from a documentary standpoint. His work is nothing but an opinion screed, which is fine, but it offers nothing substantial to the debate. Moore really is nothing more than the political equivalent of the moon hoax proponents, and so on. Rather than arguing the merits of the evidence and then coming to a conclusion, he starts with the conclusion he wants to reach and picks and chooses the evidence to support his position, without regard to that which does not. (to be fair, he isn't the only one who does that).
I'm completely interested in seeing and hearing the evidence and arguments for both sides of this issue (and have already started that process). It's just that Moore cannot be trusted to present an honest appraisal of the issue, nor can some of his reactionary adversaries.
I'm completely interested in seeing and hearing the evidence and arguments for both sides of this issue (and have already started that process). It's just that Moore cannot be trusted to present an honest appraisal of the issue, nor can some of his reactionary adversaries.
MGiff
Reply #49 Saturday, June 26, 2004 12:37 PM
Reply #49 Saturday, June 26, 2004 12:37 PM
It wouldn't be so bad if so many people didn't believe everything they hear.
DesignCaddy
Reply #50 Saturday, June 26, 2004 5:20 PM
Reply #50 Saturday, June 26, 2004 5:20 PM
still, another opinion from a friend of mine:
Greetings,
I just got back from Fahrenheit 9/11. And man, am I drained. Never have I seen a film that has dragged me through so many emotions in a 2 hour period. I think ALL the left and the right wing views were right. It's funny, it's scary, it's manipulative, patriotic, un-patrotic, I laughed...I cried...so on and so forth... I strongly encourage all of you to go see this film, regardless of your political views because even if Moore is right about 1% of what he says, then we are in a much scarier time and place then I could have ever thought (or at least try to digest all at once).
So if you see 1 movie this summer, see Fahrenheit 9/11 because:
1. Spiderman is gonna win
2. Predator will defeat the Alien
3. Will Smith will kill all the robots
But "9/11" will help you make a decision (either way) about your future.
Anyway, enough ranting, Later.
Adam Baker
PS Dodgeball was AWESOME, and I don't like Ben Stiller
Greetings,
I just got back from Fahrenheit 9/11. And man, am I drained. Never have I seen a film that has dragged me through so many emotions in a 2 hour period. I think ALL the left and the right wing views were right. It's funny, it's scary, it's manipulative, patriotic, un-patrotic, I laughed...I cried...so on and so forth... I strongly encourage all of you to go see this film, regardless of your political views because even if Moore is right about 1% of what he says, then we are in a much scarier time and place then I could have ever thought (or at least try to digest all at once).
So if you see 1 movie this summer, see Fahrenheit 9/11 because:
1. Spiderman is gonna win
2. Predator will defeat the Alien
3. Will Smith will kill all the robots
But "9/11" will help you make a decision (either way) about your future.
Anyway, enough ranting, Later.
Adam Baker
PS Dodgeball was AWESOME, and I don't like Ben Stiller
TroxxellX
Reply #51 Saturday, June 26, 2004 7:22 PM
Reply #51 Saturday, June 26, 2004 7:22 PM
Golf anyone? According to Moore, any president who plays golf is a no-good heartless slacker. Thing is most presidents play golf.
yrag
Reply #52 Saturday, June 26, 2004 7:31 PM
..no big thing....
...I played today with my son as my partner......he called me the same thing 
Reply #52 Saturday, June 26, 2004 7:31 PM
| is a no-good heartless slacker. |
..no big thing....
...I played today with my son as my partner......he called me the same thing
CygnusXII
Reply #54 Saturday, June 26, 2004 11:36 PM
Reply #54 Saturday, June 26, 2004 11:36 PM
I guess that's another reason as to why I will not go to see this movie.
I do not want to go to a film that will make me think about, current political, economical or any other issue to be at hand for the day. I go to movies to be entertained, and lose myself for a couple of hours in something other than the real world. I don't want to be convinced, educated, coerced or informed by a media I am paying to entertain me. Heck it's getting so that I don't even like the dang commercials, creeping into the theatres. The only difference, between theatres and my TV is the Ticket price, and I can make my own popcorn, now.
I do not want to go to a film that will make me think about, current political, economical or any other issue to be at hand for the day. I go to movies to be entertained, and lose myself for a couple of hours in something other than the real world. I don't want to be convinced, educated, coerced or informed by a media I am paying to entertain me. Heck it's getting so that I don't even like the dang commercials, creeping into the theatres. The only difference, between theatres and my TV is the Ticket price, and I can make my own popcorn, now.
lovesblessing
Reply #55 Sunday, June 27, 2004 1:04 AM
Reply #55 Sunday, June 27, 2004 1:04 AM
No, I wouldn't waste my money, and if anyone is interested, here is a breakdown of the main points of the movie from ScreenIt.com http://www.screenit.com/movies/2004/fahrenheit_911.html
EventHorizon
Reply #56 Sunday, June 27, 2004 1:31 AM
Fanta fanta!
Reply #56 Sunday, June 27, 2004 1:31 AM
| Heck it's getting so that I don't even like the dang commercials, creeping into the theatres. |
Fanta fanta!
Phar0e
Reply #57 Sunday, June 27, 2004 10:51 AM
Reply #57 Sunday, June 27, 2004 10:51 AM
No need for me to see the movie.
I can just sit back and listen to him stick his nose into Canadian politics.
Right where it doesn't belong.
But then, going where he doesn't belong seems to appeal to him.
I can just sit back and listen to him stick his nose into Canadian politics.
Right where it doesn't belong.
But then, going where he doesn't belong seems to appeal to him.
macrobaye
Reply #58 Sunday, June 27, 2004 8:01 PM
Reply #58 Sunday, June 27, 2004 8:01 PM
I'd actually like to see it a lot, but I don't feel like I HAVE to see it, because we all already know Bush is an idiot.
I forgot who said it, but someone early on called Moore "Un-American". I'd like someone to please define "un-american", because I'd really like to know what it takes to be so...
speaking your mind? sharing your views? going against the majority? I'd like to think that these views are the most american of all. C'mon people, this is America, not China.
***The aforementioned comment about China was not meant to be discriminatory, only meant to point out that China is a communist state and would not tolerate those ideals***
I forgot who said it, but someone early on called Moore "Un-American". I'd like someone to please define "un-american", because I'd really like to know what it takes to be so...
speaking your mind? sharing your views? going against the majority? I'd like to think that these views are the most american of all. C'mon people, this is America, not China.
***The aforementioned comment about China was not meant to be discriminatory, only meant to point out that China is a communist state and would not tolerate those ideals***
PixelCargo
Reply #59 Monday, June 28, 2004 7:27 AM
Reply #59 Monday, June 28, 2004 7:27 AM
I saw it yesterday, I would make everyone see it if I could.
Nice soldiers you got driving those tanks. *rolls eyes*
Time to stop hiding and do something about this, I mean daaammmm.
Nice soldiers you got driving those tanks. *rolls eyes*
Time to stop hiding and do something about this, I mean daaammmm.
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Reply #41 Saturday, June 26, 2004 12:48 AM