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Tuesday, June 22, 2004 by DesignCaddy | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
not that we should report every one of these.. but, it wouldn't be fair just to note the new jersey guy and not some others.
S. Korean Hostage Executed by Iraqi Captors - Report (reuters)
DUBAI (Reuters) - South Korean hostage executed by Iraqi captors, Al Jazeera television says.
... bastards.
S. Korean Hostage Executed by Iraqi Captors - Report (reuters)
DUBAI (Reuters) - South Korean hostage executed by Iraqi captors, Al Jazeera television says.
... bastards.
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DesignCaddy
Reply #3 Tuesday, June 22, 2004 12:32 PM
Reply #3 Tuesday, June 22, 2004 12:32 PM
update -
BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Militants beheaded a South Korean hostage in Iraq Tuesday after Seoul refused their demand to withdraw its troops from the country and cancel plans to send more, the Arabic satellite channel Al Jazeera said.
South Korea confirmed the death of hostage Kim Sun-il and said his body had been found. Foreign Ministry spokesman Shin Bong-kil told reporters the U.S. military had found the corpse and informed South Korean officials.
Jama'at al-Tawhid and Jihad, a group led by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi who has been accused by Washington of links to al Qaeda, had said Kim would be beheaded if their demands were not met. In a video shown on Jazeera early Monday, the 33-year-old hostage was shown pleading for his life.
Since early April, dozens of foreign hostages have been seized in Iraq, many around Falluja. Most have been freed but at least three have been killed by their captors, including U.S. entrepreneur Nicholas Berg who was beheaded by Zarqawi's group. U.S. officials say Zarqawi himself wielded the knife.
Earlier, hopes in South Korea had risen even though the captors' initial deadline had passed, as an Iraqi mediator said the kidnappers had allowed more time for talks.
Kim, an Arabic speaker and evangelical Christian, had worked in Iraq for a year as a translator for a Korean firm supplying goods to the U.S. army.
He was seized on June 17 in Falluja, a flashpoint city in the anti-U.S. insurgency 50 km (32 miles) west of Baghdad.
A Seoul commerce ministry spokeswoman said all South Koreans working for firms in Iraq were likely to leave the country by early next month.
South Korea has 670 military medics and engineers in Iraq and plans to send another 3,000 troops.
BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Militants beheaded a South Korean hostage in Iraq Tuesday after Seoul refused their demand to withdraw its troops from the country and cancel plans to send more, the Arabic satellite channel Al Jazeera said.
South Korea confirmed the death of hostage Kim Sun-il and said his body had been found. Foreign Ministry spokesman Shin Bong-kil told reporters the U.S. military had found the corpse and informed South Korean officials.
Jama'at al-Tawhid and Jihad, a group led by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi who has been accused by Washington of links to al Qaeda, had said Kim would be beheaded if their demands were not met. In a video shown on Jazeera early Monday, the 33-year-old hostage was shown pleading for his life.
Since early April, dozens of foreign hostages have been seized in Iraq, many around Falluja. Most have been freed but at least three have been killed by their captors, including U.S. entrepreneur Nicholas Berg who was beheaded by Zarqawi's group. U.S. officials say Zarqawi himself wielded the knife.
Earlier, hopes in South Korea had risen even though the captors' initial deadline had passed, as an Iraqi mediator said the kidnappers had allowed more time for talks.
Kim, an Arabic speaker and evangelical Christian, had worked in Iraq for a year as a translator for a Korean firm supplying goods to the U.S. army.
He was seized on June 17 in Falluja, a flashpoint city in the anti-U.S. insurgency 50 km (32 miles) west of Baghdad.
A Seoul commerce ministry spokeswoman said all South Koreans working for firms in Iraq were likely to leave the country by early next month.
South Korea has 670 military medics and engineers in Iraq and plans to send another 3,000 troops.
NightTrainthedark
Reply #4 Tuesday, June 22, 2004 2:06 PM
Reply #4 Tuesday, June 22, 2004 2:06 PM
Sad sad stuff. Someone please explain to me why Al Jazeera TV is still functioning. I am missing something.
_footsie_
Reply #5 Tuesday, June 22, 2004 2:32 PM
Reply #5 Tuesday, June 22, 2004 2:32 PM
The terrorists that do these things aren't men with souls.....they're no martyrs.......they're soulless MONSTERS!!!!!
You don't have to be religious to know what evil is...and these murderous acts are pure evil.
May Mr. Sun-il find Peace and may his family sorrow less knowing that his fear and sufferring has ended. May they be comforted knowing that the world cares for them and grieves with them for the loss they have had to endure.
I'm so sorry that anyone has to go through any of this.
I wish.....for Peace. Everywhere.
You don't have to be religious to know what evil is...and these murderous acts are pure evil.
May Mr. Sun-il find Peace and may his family sorrow less knowing that his fear and sufferring has ended. May they be comforted knowing that the world cares for them and grieves with them for the loss they have had to endure.
I'm so sorry that anyone has to go through any of this.
I wish.....for Peace. Everywhere.
paxx
Reply #6 Tuesday, June 22, 2004 2:36 PM
Reply #6 Tuesday, June 22, 2004 2:36 PM
??? Al Jazeera is just reporting the news, why shouldn't they exist? They exist for the same reason CNN exist...
Anyway, a big shame for the S. Korean guy. But again, as I said in the other thread. Come on guys, get out of there!!! This is no time to be a missionary!
Essencay
Reply #7 Tuesday, June 22, 2004 2:38 PM
Reply #7 Tuesday, June 22, 2004 2:38 PM
These people abuse their religion to justify their thinking. Their problem is they don't think and there is no justification in their actions. >
NightTrainthedark
Reply #8 Tuesday, June 22, 2004 3:19 PM
Reply #8 Tuesday, June 22, 2004 3:19 PM
paxx, al jazeera has every right to report the news. To clarify a little better. In my opinon they are just a tool for the evildoer's and should be treated that way. I do not have enough info to discuss it in detail and I am most likely wrong. The US gov let's it operate for a reason. I would just like to know why is all.
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IPlural
Reply #9 Tuesday, June 22, 2004 4:08 PM
Reply #9 Tuesday, June 22, 2004 4:08 PM
they hold at least 10 others hostage at this time as reported by International News last night...
I won't go political or twist this thread around with my thoughts and feelings on the whole issue.
But I will say everyone who is not military needs to get the hell out of the region and stay out until thing are really safe to be there.
I won't go political or twist this thread around with my thoughts and feelings on the whole issue.
But I will say everyone who is not military needs to get the hell out of the region and stay out until thing are really safe to be there.
mcobra41
Reply #10 Tuesday, June 22, 2004 4:12 PM
Reply #10 Tuesday, June 22, 2004 4:12 PM
I belive those Al Jazeera people are just a front for Al Qaeda. Did they report any of the torture that Saddam was doing? I don't think so, they praised him as a god. That is a rediculas news station that is trying to make the rest of the world Anti-American.
SuChiUomizu
Reply #11 Tuesday, June 22, 2004 4:28 PM
Reply #11 Tuesday, June 22, 2004 4:28 PM
Now I could be wrong, but has anyone here ever actually watched Al Jazeera and understand Arabic to be able to confirm this? Or do you just assume this is the only thing they report on? Just because the only time western news sources acknowledge they exist is when they report this kind of information or events doesn't necessarily mean its the only thing they report on. Probably all the other state run networks in that region do more to make people Anti-American than they do anyways. I am not saying they are perfect by any means, or are necessarily unbiased, I am just saying many people in the west may or may not not have an inacurate image of them.
IPlural
Reply #12 Tuesday, June 22, 2004 4:35 PM
Reply #12 Tuesday, June 22, 2004 4:35 PM
G.M. exactly so...
Kind of like History Books and who is writing them...
Kind of like History Books and who is writing them...
NightTrainthedark
Reply #13 Tuesday, June 22, 2004 4:37 PM
Reply #13 Tuesday, June 22, 2004 4:37 PM
They report biased news just like every other news station on the planet. Actually they don't report the news they make the news. Just like mcobra41 said, Al jazeera does not report the bad things that are happening to the citizens over there. I dont get how anyone could honestly believe that Al jazeera is not controlled by al queda. I suppose they are the same people that would think OJ was innocent. 
PixelPirate
Reply #15 Tuesday, June 22, 2004 5:02 PM
Reply #15 Tuesday, June 22, 2004 5:02 PM
Sadly the Korean guy isn't gonna be the last victim of their barbaric actions... They don't care for other people. Like Essencay said it, they abuse their religion to justify their actions.
It'll just create more hatred from the west against the Arab world and Islam. This fight isn't over in a decade, it's gonna get worse. I see a tendency of a rising concern among the people around me everyday - especially after the decapitations. The problem is the enemy is one man with an AK 47 or small groups of men in a worldwide network working against USA and it's allies.
That's a really tough nail to hit.
It'll just create more hatred from the west against the Arab world and Islam. This fight isn't over in a decade, it's gonna get worse. I see a tendency of a rising concern among the people around me everyday - especially after the decapitations. The problem is the enemy is one man with an AK 47 or small groups of men in a worldwide network working against USA and it's allies.
That's a really tough nail to hit.
_footsie_
Reply #16 Tuesday, June 22, 2004 5:08 PM
Reply #16 Tuesday, June 22, 2004 5:08 PM
While we're on this horrible subject.....our guys are being left in the streets and having their flacks and things stolen from their fallen forms......
pure wicked foul deeds being done over there....
pure wicked foul deeds being done over there....
Jafo
Reply #17 Tuesday, June 22, 2004 5:16 PM
Reply #17 Tuesday, June 22, 2004 5:16 PM
The cold war preoccupied itself with global disarmament of nukes.....bit hilarious that the true destructor of civilization will be 'small' arms.
Nothing will change while any form of lethal 'device' is still accessible to the public at large......any public at large.
No, that isn't going to happen, so we are doomed to enjoy the ride....live by the sword, die by the sword, dream of a world WITH no sword.
MGiff
Reply #18 Tuesday, June 22, 2004 5:18 PM
Reply #18 Tuesday, June 22, 2004 5:18 PM
I was under the impression that Islam was a peaceful religion. How does one take their own faith and twist it to condone killing innocent people? That would be like a version of the Holy Bible being published that says "thou shall kill" and "dishonour thy father and mother". Murderers are murderers, plain and simple, and these murderers will face their God just like the rest of us. I would just love to see it on Al-Jazeera when they are told there are no virgins nor eternal life for their actions.
Now for a personal political opinion, which I try not to impress: Why don't we all get the hell out of there? We are not wanted, quite the opposite and we are dying daily. As Republican as I am and as much as I detest Kerry and his views I have to say that I have no more respect for Bush. After 9/11 I was so proud of him and now I'm just confused. Who do you vote for when neither party is appealing?????
Now for a personal political opinion, which I try not to impress: Why don't we all get the hell out of there? We are not wanted, quite the opposite and we are dying daily. As Republican as I am and as much as I detest Kerry and his views I have to say that I have no more respect for Bush. After 9/11 I was so proud of him and now I'm just confused. Who do you vote for when neither party is appealing?????
WebGizmos
Reply #19 Tuesday, June 22, 2004 8:47 PM
Reply #19 Tuesday, June 22, 2004 8:47 PM
I think it's about time we made Iraq a parking lot and build a new Mall. God knows we need another one. 
On another note...it's absolutely ridiculous to think we're going to somehow rid the world of terrorists. The one thing this war/occupation has accomplished is create more terrorists, and at great expense in lives and money. As long as you oppress people you will have terrorists.
We should have left Iraq as soon as we found the rat in the hole.
In addition to this, and according to "The Bush Administrations Public Statements on Iraq" which was prepared for Representative Henry Waxman, there have been 237 misleading statements and lies (and counting) as to why we should be in Iraq.
It is also believed that the original document Bush used to justify his going to Iraq was forged.
Grab on to your sock...we're in for a bumpy ride!
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On another note...it's absolutely ridiculous to think we're going to somehow rid the world of terrorists. The one thing this war/occupation has accomplished is create more terrorists, and at great expense in lives and money. As long as you oppress people you will have terrorists.
We should have left Iraq as soon as we found the rat in the hole.
In addition to this, and according to "The Bush Administrations Public Statements on Iraq" which was prepared for Representative Henry Waxman, there have been 237 misleading statements and lies (and counting) as to why we should be in Iraq.
It is also believed that the original document Bush used to justify his going to Iraq was forged.
Grab on to your sock...we're in for a bumpy ride!
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paxx
Reply #20 Wednesday, June 23, 2004 7:49 AM
Reply #20 Wednesday, June 23, 2004 7:49 AM
Fr the record, Al Jazeera is not tied with Al Queda. Quite opposite actually. While Al Queda is a bunch of islamist extremist, Al Jazeera is trying to adopt a more modern philosophy. Al Jazeera is actually banned in a nunch of country, because it is too liberal (in their position regarding women for example). Al Jazeera is not so biased. Why don't you go read a bit on Al Jazeera's site, they have a English version of their site.
They are a news station. If terrorists or any criminal sends them a tape, they look at it and air it if they judge it news worthy, and "airable". They would not air the tape of a beheading, for example, any more than CNN or Fox would. Heck, if CN got their hands on a tape from a well known serial killer, I'm sure they would air it, as long as it's "clean".
Anyway. Yes, Al Queda are a bunch of criminal arseholes. But shooting lets not shoot the messenger, and also lets try not to place every Arab or Muslim in the Al Queda basket...
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Reply #1 Tuesday, June 22, 2004 12:06 PM