IT FRIES MY CPU
Wednesday, June 2, 2004 by TacoMan2004 | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
Ok... I have an 857 Mhz CPU. Don't laugh. When I install suites, it fried my CPU. This is a stupid question, but can I make it faster? 
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yrag
Reply #42 Saturday, June 5, 2004 9:49 PM
not if it's PC6000
What speed and make ram is in you machine now?
.....and don't say 'HP'........read the stick if you have to.
Reply #42 Saturday, June 5, 2004 9:49 PM
| Forgot to add this, but HP gave me a site that had RAM compatiable with my computer, and 256 MB is $ 124.99. Ripoff? |
not if it's PC6000
What speed and make ram is in you machine now?
.....and don't say 'HP'........read the stick if you have to.
SelfExiled
Reply #43 Sunday, June 6, 2004 2:06 AM
Reply #43 Sunday, June 6, 2004 2:06 AM
Hmm, the max for my computer is 4GB. Are you sure that the max for your computer is 512MB? That seems a little low for a P4 system.
SelfExiled
Reply #44 Sunday, June 6, 2004 2:16 AM
Reply #44 Sunday, June 6, 2004 2:16 AM
Hmm, the max for my computer is 4GB. Are you sure that the max for your computer is 512MB? That seems a little low for a P4 system.
crofttk
Reply #45 Sunday, June 6, 2004 2:17 AM
Reply #45 Sunday, June 6, 2004 2:17 AM
TacoMan:
Once again adding RAM will have NO EFFECT on the speed of your CPU. It should increase the speed of your SYSTEM. There is a difference.
As far as I'm concerned, replacing only one of your 128 MB RAM modules with one 256 MB module will disappoint you for the trouble you go to opening the machine and so forth. It would be kind of like getting only half a new paint job on your car.
Anyways, it's your money and I can't judge for you the difference between spending $80 versus $160 in this case.
As yrag points out, we can't give you price guidance if we don't know the specs of the RAM sticks you need. My price commentary is only based on a guess that your machine and mine are using the same class of RAM 168 pin (DIMM) SDRAM for PC100 or PC133 motherboards.
Once again adding RAM will have NO EFFECT on the speed of your CPU. It should increase the speed of your SYSTEM. There is a difference.
As far as I'm concerned, replacing only one of your 128 MB RAM modules with one 256 MB module will disappoint you for the trouble you go to opening the machine and so forth. It would be kind of like getting only half a new paint job on your car.
Anyways, it's your money and I can't judge for you the difference between spending $80 versus $160 in this case.
As yrag points out, we can't give you price guidance if we don't know the specs of the RAM sticks you need. My price commentary is only based on a guess that your machine and mine are using the same class of RAM 168 pin (DIMM) SDRAM for PC100 or PC133 motherboards.
kona0197
Reply #46 Sunday, June 6, 2004 2:26 AM
I didn''t think PC6000 was out yet. Is it? I thought we were just now getting into the DDR 4000 mark.
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Reply #46 Sunday, June 6, 2004 2:26 AM
| not if it''s PC6000 |
I didn''t think PC6000 was out yet. Is it? I thought we were just now getting into the DDR 4000 mark.
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Essencay
Reply #47 Sunday, June 6, 2004 5:13 AM
Good luck
You might look into getting VirtualPC instead for running proggies that won't run in XP....all your configuration problems will go away
Reply #47 Sunday, June 6, 2004 5:13 AM
| I just upgraded myself to a P4 3 Ghtz with 1 GB of ram and right now I'm typing this on a friends computer because configuring this sucker with windows 98 and XP is a nightmare |
Good luck
You might look into getting VirtualPC instead for running proggies that won't run in XP....all your configuration problems will go away
TacoMan2004
Reply #48 Sunday, June 6, 2004 6:49 PM
Reply #48 Sunday, June 6, 2004 6:49 PM
Uhh... Why did you assume that I had a P4? I have a P3 at 0.856 Ghz. And about the RAM make and stuff... This is the site that has the RAM that works on my computer: http://www.crucial.com/store/PartSpecs.asp?imodule=CT32M72S4R8E&cat=RAM
crofttk
Reply #49 Sunday, June 6, 2004 8:57 PM
Reply #49 Sunday, June 6, 2004 8:57 PM
Well, that''s a damn shame Tacoman. 
Although your RAM chips are close to what I use, your particular flavor costs $35 more than mine.
That price difference could just be bad luck because of low current production/inventory of your chip versus demand.
BUT, are you positive that''s the only chip Crucial says will go in your machine ? I see it''s registered and has ECC. My $85 chip is NON-ECC but an ECC version of mine is $151 !!!
If your machine will take non-ECC chips you may get a much better price. Bear in mind that, generally, you want all of your RAM modules in the machine to be the same specifications (possibly more incentive to replace both of your chips
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BTW, I checked NewEgg and it looks like they don''t even carry PC100 RAM. If Crucial lists PC133 chips as compatible for your machine and they were cheaper, I believe you could use them (per Crucial''s guarantee), they just wouldn''t serve you at 133MHz because your system bus is probably 100 MHz. PC133 chips seem to be priced somewhat cheaper than PC100 chips at this time.
Too bad I don''t have any info. that would tell you that PC133 would be OK. Any chance your manufacturer (HP ?) has info regarding using PC133 versus PC100 in your system ???
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Although your RAM chips are close to what I use, your particular flavor costs $35 more than mine.That price difference could just be bad luck because of low current production/inventory of your chip versus demand.
BUT, are you positive that''s the only chip Crucial says will go in your machine ? I see it''s registered and has ECC. My $85 chip is NON-ECC but an ECC version of mine is $151 !!!
If your machine will take non-ECC chips you may get a much better price. Bear in mind that, generally, you want all of your RAM modules in the machine to be the same specifications (possibly more incentive to replace both of your chips
).BTW, I checked NewEgg and it looks like they don''t even carry PC100 RAM. If Crucial lists PC133 chips as compatible for your machine and they were cheaper, I believe you could use them (per Crucial''s guarantee), they just wouldn''t serve you at 133MHz because your system bus is probably 100 MHz. PC133 chips seem to be priced somewhat cheaper than PC100 chips at this time.
Too bad I don''t have any info. that would tell you that PC133 would be OK. Any chance your manufacturer (HP ?) has info regarding using PC133 versus PC100 in your system ???
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yrag
Reply #50 Sunday, June 6, 2004 9:04 PM
Reply #50 Sunday, June 6, 2004 9:04 PM
It's not the ram that's the problem....it's the motherboard. I would update that (it's certainly cheaper) before I updated anything else...
...my two cents.
...my two cents.
kona0197
Reply #51 Sunday, June 6, 2004 10:12 PM
Reply #51 Sunday, June 6, 2004 10:12 PM
I recently put a stick of PC133 in a board that only supports PC100 and it worked fine...(or was it the other way around...)
kona0197
Reply #52 Sunday, June 6, 2004 10:14 PM
I agree. That would make better sense. May I suggest a good AMD setup? I'm getting mine cheap.
Reply #52 Sunday, June 6, 2004 10:14 PM
| It's not the ram that's the problem....it's the motherboard. I would update that (it's certainly cheaper) before I updated anything else... |
I agree. That would make better sense. May I suggest a good AMD setup? I'm getting mine cheap.
SelfExiled
Reply #53 Monday, June 7, 2004 1:18 AM
Yep, I third the agreement. But, it will turn out to be a more expensive proposition too. I just did it myself. $380 for pentium 4 motherboard and 3 Ghtz processor. That was a good price. The problem was that my power supply,case and memory weren't compatible. Dumb Gateway led me to believe that they were compatible. Also, I just found out that Windows 98 won't run with 1GB memory, 512 MB is the maximum. So, until I figure out a way around that problem its bye-bye win98.
Reply #53 Monday, June 7, 2004 1:18 AM
| It's not the ram that's the problem....it's the motherboard. I would update that (it's certainly cheaper) before I updated anything else... |
Yep, I third the agreement. But, it will turn out to be a more expensive proposition too. I just did it myself. $380 for pentium 4 motherboard and 3 Ghtz processor. That was a good price. The problem was that my power supply,case and memory weren't compatible. Dumb Gateway led me to believe that they were compatible. Also, I just found out that Windows 98 won't run with 1GB memory, 512 MB is the maximum. So, until I figure out a way around that problem its bye-bye win98.
SelfExiled
Reply #54 Monday, June 7, 2004 1:21 AM
Reply #54 Monday, June 7, 2004 1:21 AM
It really depends on what one is trying to do. More memory works for programs that use a lot of system resources. But, if you enjoy running the newest games, then a PIII is totally out of date now.
crofttk
Reply #55 Monday, June 7, 2004 9:23 AM
Reply #55 Monday, June 7, 2004 9:23 AM
New motherboard`s definitely an option but that's a whole other can of worms. On that track, I would then think about new motherboard versus whole new machine. RAM sticks versus motherboard versus new machine really depends alot on TacoMan's comfort/knowledge level with each alternative.
Options and options !
My MB is 12/99, 100MHz frontside but I`ve milked it along and milked it along. I'm not a gamer, so I may milk it along another couple of years. With the RAM at 640 MB versus 768 max and the P3 CPU upgraded from 500 MHz to 1 GHz it does pretty decently on amateur photos and graphics which are the heaviest demands I put on it (while servering the other 2 machines on my home LAN).
Options and options !
My MB is 12/99, 100MHz frontside but I`ve milked it along and milked it along. I'm not a gamer, so I may milk it along another couple of years. With the RAM at 640 MB versus 768 max and the P3 CPU upgraded from 500 MHz to 1 GHz it does pretty decently on amateur photos and graphics which are the heaviest demands I put on it (while servering the other 2 machines on my home LAN).
Jafo
Reply #56 Monday, June 7, 2004 9:31 AM
Reply #56 Monday, June 7, 2004 9:31 AM
Older ram types are at premium prices as production ends...a respectable sized stick of EDO will set you back more, than 5 times its size in DDR.
Jafo
Reply #57 Monday, June 7, 2004 9:33 AM
Reply #57 Monday, June 7, 2004 9:33 AM
Chas...there are work-arounds for running 98 'efficiently' in 'too much' ram....
TacoMan2004
Reply #58 Monday, June 7, 2004 10:36 AM
Reply #58 Monday, June 7, 2004 10:36 AM
The motherboard!!! Isn't that all of my ports AND the CPU AND expensive???
kona0197
Reply #59 Monday, June 7, 2004 11:26 AM
Reply #59 Monday, June 7, 2004 11:26 AM
ChasUGC - you should have went with what I am going with. AMD 2600+ (2 Ghz) CPU and a MSI mobo ran me less than $135 dollars.
Not expensive if you know where to look.
| The motherboard!!! Isn't that all of my ports AND the CPU AND expensive??? |
Not expensive if you know where to look.
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Reply #41 Saturday, June 5, 2004 9:28 PM