Task Manager?

Saturday, May 8, 2004 by carolelee | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk

Anyone know if you can get the Windows task manager to come up other than using the three finger salute(alt-ctrl-delete?) My sister has the Sasser worm and she can't get the task manager to come up......any ideas?
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carolelee
Reply #121 Monday, May 10, 2004 1:10 AM
Oh and tonight she finally got her task manager to come up...... in muliples(150 times)but every time she tries to end task on skynetave.exe(there are others to rid of aswell) it says the program you are about to eliminate(spelling)is part of the system(whatever) This Sasser thing is trying to block what-ever is being thrown at it...........this is starting to really piss me off and it's not even my computer.......but, I feel I should try and help sis get out of this HUGE mess
yrag
Reply #122 Monday, May 10, 2004 1:12 AM
OK...your Sister has Norton on hers. After a little research with the Cmd prompt disappearing and what not, it would appear she has much more then the Sasser virus and in all likely hood has done irreparable damage to the system files. Having said that, she has one chance before she does a full re-format. Go to the good computer and in Norton it has an option to create a DOS boot that will scan and kill the virus and attempt to fix the system files and Registry. Create the floppy and re-boot the infected machine with the disk in the drive. If for any reason it doesn't work, then she's done. If there is info on the HD that she can't afford to lose, she needs to take it to a computer shop and they can extract the files from it. In either case the drive will have to be re-formatted and the OS system re-loaded ...with the updates.

Good Luck......
Sugaree
Reply #123 Monday, May 10, 2004 1:17 AM
I think I have to agree with Gary on this
Ande
Reply #124 Monday, May 10, 2004 1:18 AM
Damn, the bloody bug won. >
carolelee
Reply #125 Monday, May 10, 2004 1:26 AM
Thanks Gary.....I'll let her know Thats what I feared(I had to do that a few years ago) As they say, "live and learn......the hard way Well, at least they caught the thug(in Germany) I hope they make some kind of example of the little s..t. Well, thanks for all your help(both you and Annie) and I hope this will never happen again Take care
yrag
Reply #126 Monday, May 10, 2004 1:28 AM
Sugaree
Reply #127 Monday, May 10, 2004 1:32 AM
IPlural
Reply #128 Monday, May 10, 2004 1:36 AM
The virus copies itself to the Windows directory as avserve2.exe and creates a registry run key to load itself at startup

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\
CurrentVersion\Run "avserve2.exe" = C:\WINDOWS\avserve2.exe
As the worm scans random ip addresses it listens on successive TCP ports starting at 1068. It also acts as an FTP server on TCP port 5554, and creates a remote shell on TCP port 9996.

A file named win2.log is created on the root of the C: drive. This file contains an IP address.

Copies of the worm are created in the Windows System directory as #_up.exe.

Examples

c:\WINDOWS\system32\11583_up.exe
c:\WINDOWS\system32\16913_up.exe
c:\WINDOWS\system32\29739_up.exe
-

Manual Removal Instructions To remove this virus "by hand", follow these steps:

Reboot the system into Safe Mode

(hit the F8 key as soon as the Starting Windows text is displayed, choose Safe Mode.


Delete the file AVSERVE2.EXE from your WINDOWS directory
(typically c:\windows or c:\winnt)

Edit the registry

Delete the "avserve2" value from HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run

Reboot the system into Default Mode

Registry Removal Editing:

Windows98/ME/NT/2000/XP


1. Click the START button, then RUN
2. Type REGEDIT and hit ENTER

http://vil.nai.com/vil/SystemHelpDocs/images/Regedit1.gif

3. Click the + signs next to the desired folder to expand the folder tree branch

http://vil.nai.com/vil/SystemHelpDocs/images/Regedit4.gif

4. Once the desired folder path is visible, double-click on the value name on the right side of the screen (Default in this case)

http://vil.nai.com/vil/SystemHelpDocs/images/Regedit5.gif

5. Enter the desired value and click OK
6. Exit the Registry Editor by clicking on the X in the upper right corner of the Window

7. reboot into normal user mode



Don't format...

Remove it, update Windows and her AV application DAT files...

then scan that sucker...

and do it again...




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Sugaree
Reply #129 Monday, May 10, 2004 1:41 AM
Yeah..ok, I''m jumping ships.....Listen to John

any ray of hope, is worth trying



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yrag
Reply #130 Monday, May 10, 2004 1:42 AM
Unfortunately, John...the sasser bug doesn't appear to be the only thing she has. Besides that, the floppy I told her to create will do the same thing.....although I personally think it will be to no avail...

BTW: you been in the bathroom all this time??
yrag
Reply #131 Monday, May 10, 2004 1:43 AM
Great....huge ass jumps ship........
Sugaree
Reply #132 Monday, May 10, 2004 1:45 AM
Like your ass is any better!
IPlural
Reply #133 Monday, May 10, 2004 1:48 AM


na, just kind of off in never never land. Boomer jumped on me from behind tonight while out front and I took some pain killers. kinda prone now and not doing any graphics for a change.

If she's all messed up on the drive, she should probably go ahead and dink the sasser. then burn a cd of her data files she does not want to lose. She can scan those files if she decides to put them back on the drive after format, reinstall of XP, then AV "Carolelee, she wants that AV installed and functioning before even connecting to the net" then doing the XP updates.






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yrag
Reply #134 Monday, May 10, 2004 1:53 AM
Boomer jumped on me from behind


...seems to be a lot of 'ass' problems going around tonight...
IPlural
Reply #135 Monday, May 10, 2004 1:56 AM
yeah if it was my ass, he'd be the one laid up

wrenched my neck and lower back, never should have taught him to jump over my arm held at shoulder height while I am standing up. Frisbee though, tis key to a happy pup and a good time on the beach




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carolelee
Reply #136 Monday, May 10, 2004 9:27 AM
IPlural, I don't have the worm(my system is totally up-to date)my sister Donna is the one with the huge problem(love them kids) When I phone her later, I will tell her to take her puter to a puter store and get it reformated. This thing is stopping every thing she tries to do and if it has a partner in crime going along with it........there's no chance in h... for a novice puter user to rid these things. Thanks for trying I will instruct Donna over the phone later and we will give it a go(your instructions) but as Gary said.....it most likely won't happen. This is a hard lesson for anyone who doesn't have that patch. All I can say is, UPDATE, UPDATE, UPDATE.......there, I feel better now! Thanks, you guys are the best
Jafo
Reply #137 Monday, May 10, 2004 10:25 AM
That 18 year old they nabbed for Sasser should get exactly 1 day's jail for each computer he screwed......at last count that's about 3 or 400 years....
IPlural
Reply #138 Monday, May 10, 2004 12:05 PM
now that would be justice wouldn't it

carolelee, something you and everyone including your sister wants installed and running is a registry monitor. Anything that might make it past all other security measures will be caught out as it attempt to modify the registry this way. You can at least stop the final part of a system highjack this way.

I personally have run a number of these utilities but pretty much stick with two running active while using a third to keep my registry in order which I run at least 4 times a month and the fourth I run at least once a month.

Startup Orginizer ( MetaProducts ) runs upon boot up, if anything has modified or attempted to modify the registry and rebooted the system before SO could do anything about it. SO loads up and scans the registry before each item is loaded and upon seeing a change it *asks* you if you wish to allow the change or do you wish to remove it.

AdAware Pro ( Lavasoft ) The Pro version has an active ( seperate application ) Monitor for registry changes.

Spybot Search and Destroy ( freeware ) works well, though I do not run it on a regular basis because active updates can be a slight bother so I run it at least once a month.

SystemMechanic Pro 4.x ( Iolo ) I run this once a week or more to keep my registry compact and clean of trash which lends to a faster system.

The Registry is basically a Database file and as such needs to be re-indexed and compressed to optimized query operations. Bad pointers to missing or corrupt info will drag a Database to it's knees. Then same thing goes with the Windows Registry, when you click upon anything that references the Registry it takes the time to find the references needed and then it loads them. If it is stuck seeking out bogus info, broken links, missing data it will be wasting time and also be slowing down the system while doing this.

anyway...

some thoughts is all
Essencay
Reply #139 Monday, May 10, 2004 4:01 PM
Good point IP. I used to run one when I had Win98, but haven't since I got XP, probably time to run one again
carolelee
Reply #140 Monday, May 10, 2004 6:42 PM
I agree with all of you, as I run all things you mentioned lP. My sis's boyfriend removed their AdAware and Spybot S&D because he thought they were clashing with some downloads It was also just discovered my sis's 14 year old daughter ignores all the updates from Microsoft(she admitted it) So my hope is, my sister pays more attention to that computer and all who play on it She is now driving me nuts and wants me to help get her running again.........ha....good luck, this sucker has a good grip on her system and I'm no expert! What you said Jafo, I agree 100%, throw away the key and he should be made to pay for all the puters he damaged >

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